Autopsy No whinging: balanced discussion on the trades only

[OzJohnnie]

I can't take it in the other trade threads with all the wailing and weeping. I need a thread where a little discussion of what we're shaping into is possible.

So far, we have swapped Mitchell for Mitchell. Soon to be swapping Lewis for JOM. Plus, it looks like we may be thinning out a few fringe players allowing what will be the core of the next flag a full schedule next year.

Heck, I forgot about Vickery (poor guy must feel like an ugly stepchild with how quickly he's drifted from the back page). A potential Hale replacement.

So far, so very good.

 

[macdaddio]

As good as it sounds this thread will turn into just like the others unfortunately

 

[OzJohnnie]

I forgot to mention, we're well on our way to addressing the big hole in our game last year: midfield pressure. The core of midfielders we are assembling will enable us to move right back onto the top of the pressure table. All good stuff.

I'm not sure how we'll deal with the roughy situation, but maybe they saw enough development last year that they think the front line will come good.

I think we need to enable a backline structure that allows run through the midfield. Release Duryea and Birth (who didn't do so hot last year, but maybe will improve). Dunno.

The the midfield is looking rock solid and that always puts you in the hunt.

 

[Brishawk]

The big thing we get with Mitchell departing is the opportunity to develop our young players all together in the senior side at the same time. Playing 50 games together over the next couple of seasons or so will greatly improve our chances of winning a flag. We can front load contracts to give us more scope to recruit other talent next year. Have to back us in to get this right for the club.

 

[tige19]

High 5s if we confirm JOM sooner rather than later.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I'm totally ok with looking forward, not back.

 

[OzJohnnie]

The big thing we get with Mitchell departing is the opportunity to develop our young players all together in the senior side at the same time. Playing 50 games together over the next couple of seasons or so will greatly improve our chances of winning a flag. We can front load contracts to give us more scope to recruit other talent next year. Have to back us in to get this right for the club.

I reckon this is the key point of everything. If we can assemble a core midfield fast enough (one trade period is pretty quick) get them playing together and we could hit the championship again in two years. Or maybe get lucky like the Doggies (or '08) and hit it earlier than that.

Tears aside, I'm very excited.

 

[BlueWaterHawk]

I'm considering Mitchell's departure equivalent to his retirement ... I'm happy with it, for him as a person and strategically as a club.

We had to move on eventually and the cap room leaves us open to move in talent for the next 10 years. Get JOM and this should be a very successful trade period.

Who knows, there may be more surprises to come.

 

[Gunstall555]

I'm totally ok with looking forward, not back.




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it's okay to take a moment to mourn mate.

 

[Lotus]

When all the veterans confirmed contracted for next year, I was actually having a crazy idea like rostering the veterans in pairs or goup of 3 for games at box hill. But that might be insulting to treat the leaders of the playing group in that way.

But what's the other option?
We saw the potentials of the younger guys, but unless they played together for a period of time as a group, at the AFL level consistently, they won't be progressed as quickly as the club hopes.

There will always be heartache, emotional, unhappy fans and players, and even media. That's normal. Very human in fact.

As a reference look at other clubs, I mean big soccer club like AC Milan, Juventus at Serie A or even Manchester United at EPL or Barcelona, we can learn a lot from those clubs success and failure.

Appology for the long post and any grammatical errors.

I trust Clarko and the club, the future looks good.

#HawthornAlways.

 

[The Lemon]

Can't wait to see what else we have in store. I think next draft/trade period is the big one.

 

[Spanish Sahara]

I know one thing, I am bloody excited for the journey ahead

 

[Dixie Flatline]

As good as it sounds this thread will turn into just like the others unfortunately

I hope not. I have slightly amended the thread title to change from positive to balanced. Diversity of opinion is encouraged but I'll delete hysterical or over the top posts from the thread when I see them.

 

[The Lemon]

balanced will degenerate into negative.

 

[wizzard400]

As much as I'm upset about Sam leaving I'm really curious to see what else have up our sleeve this trade period.

I'm wondering if the stock piling of draft picks might mean we're going to bid for Jarman as a father-son? I can't see us using the picks in a trade for JOM.

It will be good to get games into TM and Vickery with our other young players so they can build a rapport together whilst maintaining the culture created by the senior players.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

Remember the Hawks have committed to a pick swap with the Swans.

 

[Milang_Panthers]

I know one thing, I am bloody excited for the journey ahead

This sums up how im feeling too. Did anyone expect to get anything for mitchell anyway?

 

[HolyRioli]

This sums up how im feeling too. Did anyone expect to get anything for mitchell anyway?

Nope. Always expected a pick upgrade

 

[HolyRioli]

Meanwhile, I'm on board with everything we've done so far

O'Meara is, and always was, the one that I want though

I think we'll get him in, but the trade period would be a little underwhelming if we didn't

 

[Gralin]

We got Vickery in which filled a glaring need on our list when you consider our Talls that could ruck or play forward were BB Pitts Fitz and Schoey - so thats a tick, I'm not worried about the $$ thats just window dressing to avoid needing to trade

We got T Mitch for Pick 14 and some late swaps - Thats a tick even without knowing the late swaps, got a 23yo mid who stood up in finals and a grand final

Lost Sammy but he got his golden parachute for services rendered - from a looking after a legend its a big tick, those picks we swapped could close out the T Mitch deal. Going to miss the great man but happy with how it went

Hilly we lost for pick 23, unders but was done classy as well

Lots still to play out

 

[walhawk]

Slight win on the TM trade. Hill even.
Took a hit on SM but he could have retired and we would be slightly worse off than we are after the trade.
We are even so far.
JOM is the big one.
Boom or bust. If his knees are ok, we have a 200 game champion, worthy of pick 1.
IF.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Can we threadban a certain user from Brisbane as a preemptive measure?

Very, very, very excited about T-Mitch. I think he's going to become the pillar we rebuild this squad on.

I think Clarko and GW have seen the writing on the wall and has moved fiercely to stop the Hawks sliding. People can criticise all they like - but people high up are put in charge to ensure what's best for the CLUB. I don't believe for a second that wasn't their intention in these manoeuvres.

 

[HawthornHawk]

Look at it objectively- our midfield was smashed all year..

The midfield is built around guys like Lewis, MItchell and Hill and it was smashed.

Anyone who was at that Melbourne game knew it was a changing of the tides

 

[The Lemon]

Look at it objectively- our midfield was smashed all year..

The midfield is built around guys like Lewis, MItchell and Hill and it was smashed.

Anyone who was at that Melbourne game knew it was a changing of the tides

That was when I knew we were done.

Now I am really excited

 

[Agent Smith]

Are we still looking for another KPP or is TV our ruck / key position 'solution'?