Opinion Non-Crows AFL 13: Cyclone Season

[Coopers]

What's being proposed is that this year the first 8 picks are protected (the 8 teams not playing finals), there would be no compo picks inside the top 8.

Then what would happen is from pick 9 is all the compo picks for the bottom 8 clubs get added in. So say the Power and GC finish 18th and 17th, these two compo picks would be added as picks 9 and 10, then the picks continue in reverse ladder order from then on and any compo picks for the finals teams fall naturally behind their respective picks. So if Brisbane win the flag they will have the last two picks of the first round.

Not suspicious at all that this happens in a year where there are a bunch of non-Vic band 1 free agents and the bottom 8 will contain Richmond, Essendon, Carlton, etc

 

[Slippery Pete]

Port won’t finish bottom, they were cruelled by injuries last year and there’s too many crap teams. Eagles, Bombers and Melbourne for a start. Then Richmond and Roos. I think their home ground advantage every second week will keep them ahead of the improving Roos and Tiges. I think their lowest point is 13th, but not sure they can finish much higher than that.

Too much underestimating of Port happening around here.

 

[Jetwa5h]

Giants fear 'worst-case scenario' after star midfielder suffers ACL injury

Star midfielder Tom Green has suffered a knee injury at Giants training

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How many is that now?

 

[GameofSloanes]

Shit, the AFL must have thought we were getting band 1 compo and finishing bottom this year

Unlucky for port if butters leaves.....

 

[Daniel6]

Unlucky for port if butters leaves.....

They will 100% match and force a trade.

Butters is worth much more than pick 1.

 

[Peter Doherty]

They will 100% match and force a trade.

Butters is worth much more than pick 1.

History shows you get better than compo value by matching (Dangerfield, Cameron) but you don't get full value.

 

[Crow till I die]

They will 100% match and force a trade.

Butters is worth much more than pick 1.

Whats going to be interesting will be if say the dogs cobble together a 10 year 20+ million deal for him. Thats a lot of cap Port will need to dedicate to matching...but in saying that, I think they will because the bounty in matching a bid and forcing a mega trade for Butters is just too great not to.

 

[Daniel6]

Whats going to be interesting will be if say the dogs cobble together a 10 year 20+ million deal for him. Thats a lot of cap Port will need to dedicate to matching...but in saying that, I think they will because the bounty in matching a bid and forcing a mega trade for Butters is just too great not to.

That’s a great point about the $20 m over 10 years. And after the st Kilda contract for NWM, it would not surprise me if the western Bulldogs offer something like that or even bigger.

 

[Redline]

Whats going to be interesting will be if say the dogs cobble together a 10 year 20+ million deal for him. Thats a lot of cap Port will need to dedicate to matching...but in saying that, I think they will because the bounty in matching a bid and forcing a mega trade for Butters is just too great not to.

It seems unclear how the matching works when you are trying to do other deals. You just have to show you can accommodate the contract but that's about it. I guess with such a long contract you can stretch it out.

 

[Crow till I die]

It seems unclear how the matching works when you are trying to do other deals. You just have to show you can accommodate the contract but that's about it. I guess with such a long contract you can stretch it out.

Port also very recently had a mega deal put to NWM so you'd think they can shift that towards matching any Butters offer

 

[Crow till I die]

I don't see them matching, they'll be looking to get as much draft collateral as possible for their top end father/Sons/NGA draftees Dougie Cochrane, Zachariah Young, Tevan Rodan and Louis Salopek the next 2 drafts.

Doesn't that mean though that the WILL match so they can force a trade to get said draft capital. if they don;t match, they only get a compo pick for their most valuable asset.

 

[Mutineer]

Doesn't that mean though that the WILL match so they can force a trade to get said draft capital. if they don;t match, they only get a compo pick for their most valuable asset.

Your probably right but where Butters wants home to and what club, Geelong and the Dogs I think would be where he mostly wants to get to. Geelong would be my favourite at this time.
I think players from the club he wants to land at will likely be in the deal as well.

 

[ams4crows]

Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

25

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

with a potential ACL

 

[1970crow]

I don't see them matching, they'll be looking to get as much draft collateral as possible for their top end father/Sons/NGA draftees Dougie Cochrane, Zachariah Young, Tevan Rodan and Louis Salopek the next 2 drafts.

Of course they'll match, max compo from AFL is pick 8. They'll want that, a late first and a second.

 

[FR0GGY]

Surely port and st kilda haggle until its butters for NWM

 

[Mutineer]

Apparently the State Of Origin game Vic vs WA tonight is a sellout. So the public are supporting it.

 

[1970crow]

Apparently the State Of Origin game Vic vs WA tonight is a sellout. So the public are supporting it.

I’d definitely watch it if was SA. Will still probably watch a bit.

 

[Cromulant]

Apparently the State Of Origin game Vic vs WA tonight is a sellout. So the public are supporting it.

How many will be there at the end if Victoria are up by 10 goals.

Of course people are supporting it, they havent seen it in 20 years.

 

[Pea Nut]

Of course they'll match, max compo from AFL is pick 8. They'll want that, a late first and a second.

Based on what Kane Cornes said yesterday on radio, they will want two top 5 picks. Not sure how either of the clubs interested in Butters will come up with that.

 

[Pea Nut]

Apparently the State Of Origin game Vic vs WA tonight is a sellout. So the public are supporting it.

I thought I heard it had been sold out for a while. WA are good in that respect. They got a good crowd show up last year to the all star game.

 

[Mutineer]

Based on what Kane Cornes said yesterday on radio, they will want two top 5 picks. Not sure how either of the clubs interested in Butters will come up with that.

Likely a player/s will also be involved?

 

[ABAB]

This gets said alot during trade period but clubs mostly find a way to avoid this happening.

Given the change in bid matching, they will need a 1st rounder to match bids in the 1st round and at least pick 8 if he goes in the top 2. No more junk picks for points.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Likely a player/s will also be involved?

Bergman?

 

[Mutineer]

Given the change in bid matching, they will need a 1st rounder to match bids in the 1st round and at least pick 8 if he goes in the top 2. No more junk picks for points.

Has this change you talk of been signed off on by the AFL at this time?

My understanding was it was only at the "consideration" point at this juncture.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Has this change you talk of been signed off on by the AFL at this time?

My understanding was it was only at the "consideration" point at this juncture.

We know how these things work. It's soft released before it's really released.