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I don’t recall so many significant injuries this early in the year, particularly the soft tissues one. We’ve done bloody well.

Gulden looks like another 6 weeks +
I mentioned my musing on this in another thread.

Perhaps with the game being so fast and chaotic (erratic movement patterns etc) as of late and the current in vogue game plans of going at break neak speed, we are pushing the players physically too far. Also the general size of the players is increasing, look to the in demand midfielders, they are all much larger builds than previous generations.

Like we are sort of at the precipice of what the human body can physically sustain.

I have no medical/sport science education so can't back my thoughts up with any evidence, just a thought that I have had as of recently.
 
Glad we have the Hawks picks, Blues looked pretty good against GWS.
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Pre-season results really mean next to diddly squat, though.

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I mentioned my musing on this in another thread.

Perhaps with the game being so fast and chaotic (erratic movement patterns etc) as of late and the current in vogue game plans of going at break neak speed, we are pushing the players physically too far. Also the general size of the players is increasing, look to the in demand midfielders, they are all much larger builds than previous generations.

Like we are sort of at the precipice of what the human body can physically sustain.

I have no medical/sport science education so can't back my thoughts up with any evidence, just a thought that I have had as of recently.
You’re on the money. We’re seeing more soft tissue injuries because we’re asking for more explosive actions more often with repeat efforts, particularly under fatigue. We’re also seeing more severe collision injuries because we’re seeing bigger, heavier players hitting contests at greater velocities.

Possible answers? You could cap interchanges severely, give players another full day off each week and not allow players to report back to clubs until after Christmas. Would it also affect the quality of the product? Probably.
 
Like we are sort of at the precipice of what the human body can physically sustain.
It’s an interesting point. Given the AFL continually want to make the game faster, and players are getting bigger, and the season is getting even longer, maybe you’re on to something? There are limits to any high performance ’machine’.
 
At this rate the AFLPA is going to mandate that pre-season training consists of pilates and speed walking.
 
You’re on the money. We’re seeing more soft tissue injuries because we’re asking for more explosive actions more often with repeat efforts, particularly under fatigue. We’re also seeing more severe collision injuries because we’re seeing bigger, heavier players hitting contests at greater velocities.

Possible answers? You could cap interchanges severely, give players another full day off each week and not allow players to report back to clubs until after Christmas. Would it also affect the quality of the product? Probably.
I'd piss off rules like "stand" and 666 before capping rotations. The game is quick because it's hard to get stoppages. Control is now costly, rushing to get territory and maintain it through pressure is the key.
 

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I'd piss off rules like "stand" and 666 before capping rotations. The game is quick because it's hard to get stoppages. Control is now costly, rushing to get territory and maintain it through pressure is the key.
Stand rule has vastly improved the spectacle of the sport. AFL in 2019-20 was becoming incredibly bogged down with stoppages, secondary stoppages and complete lack of fluidity in ball movement.

I don't think injuries are due to the game changing. Players spend less and less time at the club now during pre-season, and are on holidays for far longer. I don't think they're well prepared for the season and can be injury prone.
 
Stand rule has vastly improved the spectacle of the sport. AFL in 2019-20 was becoming incredibly bogged down with stoppages, secondary stoppages and complete lack of fluidity in ball movement.

I don't think injuries are due to the game changing. Players spend less and less time at the club now during pre-season, and are on holidays for far longer. I don't think they're well prepared for the season and can be injury prone.
I don't see any spectacle in players standing like statues while the opponent with the ball runs past them (almost)
 
Stand rule has vastly improved the spectacle of the sport. AFL in 2019-20 was becoming incredibly bogged down with stoppages, secondary stoppages and complete lack of fluidity in ball movement.

Interested to see if this is backed up by numbers. Can you show that?

I'm not doubting you, but I firmly believe the stand and 666 have made the sport far poorer.
 
Time to rename the Saints the Stkilda Stormtroopers, This team couldn't hit a target if it was 5m away.

Not to mention their jumper is trash tier, probably worse than GC and that's saying something.
 

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Saints look bad. Could be worse than us this year. Battle is a big loss for their back line

I firmly believe we can finish above Tigers, Kangaroos, Demons, Crows and Saints at least. Maybe even another unlucky club too.

How firmly? Let's just say if the boner police are around I demand to speak to my lawyer.
 
Interested to see if this is backed up by numbers. Can you show that?

I'm not doubting you, but I firmly believe the stand and 666 have made the sport far poorer.
Here is a quick video from stand early days and comparing some key stats from 2019 that suggests stand rule has opened up the game, freer flowing movement, that hasn't resulted in higher scores.

 
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