How does Nick Meese on his own, seemingly monster a Phillips/Lobbe combination?
52 hitouts vs a combined 40? How does that happen? Home ground advantage?
52 hitouts vs a combined 40? How does that happen? Home ground advantage?
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Looked like Jack kicked 3 goals in junk time in the 4th when the contest was well and truly over.
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That Schumacher bloke seems to be racking up some decent stats - good signs. Good to see Jack/Kennedy and Weitering playing like AFL players in VFL - need another 8-10 like them before depth box is ticked.
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Did we really recruit Kennedy to be medium forward that goes through the middle? While that's a role he feasibly could play, he's a natural ball winner/inside mid with the bonus of being good overhead. At the end of the day, he's a much better midfielder than those you've listed and I'm pretty sure that's why we recruited him. It's fitness that's letting him down atm.
Pace was the only real query on him pre-draft. He can always work on that like Cripps has. We just need to make sure we're always rotating him and Cripps with more dynamic types like Fisher, Dow and SPS.
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You could well be right, but I think SOSOS lacks the tools to be a regular forward. As a forward you have to be super quick, a powerful beast or highly elusive. He’s none of those things.
His strengths of footy smarts, competitiveness and clean hands lend themselves well to an inside midfield role. He’d be one of the bigger mids too so his strength would become an asset rather than a liability.
Turning him into a mid might be a bit of a long shot but what have they got to lose.
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Kicked our first goal, then got two later on because he kept getting scragged when he took first possession.
It's no powerhouse performance as a forward, but it shows you he was frustrating Willy despite them having a +120 possession advantage.
You could have said the exact same things about Townsend, but look at him now. Kennedy's a better player, but you need to find them a place in the system where they play to their strengths and aren't so easily presented with their weaknesses.
Either way, playing off HF presents as a way for him to build up his running capacity while being able to spell himself, probably keeping his problem ankle under control in the process due to the lack of being tackled every time he goes for the footy.
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Lobbe is coming off a low base, and Phillips has historically been awful at holding his ground in a contest. Relies wholly and solely on his leap, does Sauce.
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Did any get down to game? I only ask because it looks as if SOJ and Kennedy both had really good games but if you look at the stats for Williamstown and they could have just as easily been beaten by their direct opponents?????
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Our lack of investment in the Northern Blues is continuing to show, a quick glance of our list and only Sam Fisher & Josh Hill have been on an AFL list before.. I would think all teams would have at least a handfull of experienced ex AFL players that become the foundation of the VFL team that help the next crop of Carlton players develop.
It would not have taken a lot to recruit some quality players, in the EDFL i look at Avondale Heights Dennis Arnfield is running around, I dont know how much he is being paid at Avondale but I ould imagine CFC would have been able to make an attractive enough offer to have Dennis stick around and be a playing assistant coach... At Keilor Nick O'Kearney who was on St kilda's rookie list and I felt was desperately unlucky to be de-listed, if we had have given him an opportunity to have a good season and get back on an AFL list i am sure he would have taken it with both hands and I am sure their would be plenty of others that could have made us a competitive side.. Its no surprise that Richmond and the Bulldogs both fastracked the development of their side and shot up the ladder at the same time their VFL side was winning..
It would not have taken a lot to recruit some quality players, in the EDFL i look at Avondale Heights Dennis Arnfield is running around, I dont know how much he is being paid at Avondale but I ould imagine CFC would have been able to make an attractive enough offer to have Dennis stick around and be a playing assistant coach... At Keilor Nick O'Kearney who was on St kilda's rookie list and I felt was desperately unlucky to be de-listed, if we had have given him an opportunity to have a good season and get back on an AFL list i am sure he would have taken it with both hands and I am sure their would be plenty of others that could have made us a competitive side.. Its no surprise that Richmond and the Bulldogs both fastracked the development of their side and shot up the ladder at the same time their VFL side was winning..
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He kicked our only Goal in the first half!
But I guess you are calling it "junk time" as the contest was over after 10 minutes of the first quarter
."Silvagni was on hand to hit the scoreboard, but it would prove to be Northern’s only goal of the first half as Williamstown stifled the Blues." ...
"Silvagni once again spent time in the midfield while making the most of his opportunities up forward, while Jacob Weitering featured prominently in the back half on the way to 21 disposals." ...
"Kennedy and Silvagni would also finish with seven clearances apiece, while youngster Ethan Penrith led the way with nine tackles."
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Northern Blues: Silvagni 3, Kennedy, Phillips
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Northern Blues: Silvagni, Polson, Kennedy, Fisher, Weitering, Palmer"
JSOS is trying his heart out and IMHO will be a very good player for us. Not sure why you are taking cheap shots...
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He kicked our only Goal in the first half!
But I guess you are calling it "junk time" as the contest was over after 10 minutes of the first quarter
"Silvagni was on hand to hit the scoreboard, but it would prove to be Northern’s only goal of the first half as Williamstown stifled the Blues." ...
"Silvagni once again spent time in the midfield while making the most of his opportunities up forward, while Jacob Weitering featured prominently in the back half on the way to 21 disposals." ...
"Kennedy and Silvagni would also finish with seven clearances apiece, while youngster Ethan Penrith led the way with nine tackles."
GOALS
Northern Blues: Silvagni 3, Kennedy, Phillips
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Northern Blues: Silvagni, Polson, Kennedy, Fisher, Weitering, Palmer"
JSOS is trying his heart out and IMHO will be a very good player for us. Not sure why you are taking cheap shots...
Was certainly not a cheap shop but just trying to get some perspective over his performance in a team that got thumped.. I had not seen vision or a full match report and just seen on the play by play that he kicked the last 3 goals of the game.. Usually in a contest like this, its junk time, the pressure has come off and its not uncommon for the losing side to kick a few last quarter goals.. I had suspected this to be the case and didnt want to start fapping over Jack kicking 4 goals if this was the case.
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OK - but pretty tough marking to single out one of our best on a dirty day. JSOS seems to always play for the Jersey
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He would have to be one of the best VFL ruckman I have seen, very similar to Kreuzer, works hard and is a tough competitor. One of my favourites when he played for us.
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I had not seen the stats yet, and looks like he has had a big game.. For me more important than the 4 goals was the 9 tackles.
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Get onto the same running coach Crippa went to. PC is so much quicker over his first 3 or 4 steps now, even over 10-20m I’d say.
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Crippa always had that power in his steps, but his fitness, technique and his physique weren't great.
You can see him burst away in the U18s for WA despite being a huge kid with plenty of puppy fat.
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It's all good. JSOS only got 3 goals, which was 60% of the teams Total Goals(5), making him the most effective forward in his (part) time there. Plus he was playing midfield getting 7 clearances - which was the equal most for the Blues -making him one (along with Kennedy who had more disposals) of our best in the midfield. This shows he has the versatility that Bolts is calling for. Plus we looked ordinary against * at clearances once Cripps was not there. Both JSOS and Kennedy could help against those stronger/bigger (than*) Melbourne midfielders.
JSOS is 20 years young, has had two weeks of strong VFL performances and should be considered for senior selection as Melbourne are not super quick down back and he could smack Lever around, win the ball at forward and centre stoppages and snag a few on a good day
. Would be great to see us lock the ball in our forward half more, and with Levi out JSOS offers something different that should complement Charlie and Harry without going too small. Plus allows us to structure a 7th man down back (Simmo) without losing one in the centre clearances if we call on him (when we need to halt momentum).Most importantly JSOS is a good kick and we need to score more.
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The concerns for me this year with JSOS is that he seemed to be lacking the intensity that he was playing with in his first 2 seasons.. Last year he was not getting big stats and would hustle all day and turn everything into a contest.. For what ever reason this has not happened at AFL level yet this year. Additionally last year he was getting himself in positions to take marks and kick goals, his conversion rate was our biggest concern last year however this year he hasn't got the shots on goal to even miss them..
Hopefully the time spent in the VFL is giving him a few more tricks he can implement at AFL level and can bring back the 1% that have been missing so far this year.
Hopefully the time spent in the VFL is giving him a few more tricks he can implement at AFL level and can bring back the 1% that have been missing so far this year.
Yeah has had a bit of it a senior level but not a lot of value in his possessions. Once form/fitness permits I like to see him come back in and rotate mid forward with Cripps. I haven't really seen it work when they've both been in the middle (too one paced) and if I remember rightly from his highlights package, Kennedy knows where the goals are when pushed forward.
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Nick Meese has been the best VFL ruckman in the last 10 year and regularly monsters young developing ruckman. You would think more mature AFL rucks would have the advantage, but he's a powerful unit and difficult to move, especially at boundary throw ins.
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Kennedy was recovering from shoulder surgery & had an interrupted preseason, then a couple of ankle injuries to start the season. He's still young in age & experience. I think we'll start to see more of what he can do next year after a hopefully uninterrupted preseason.
I think he'll be great for us once he gets a good run at it. He reminds me of a young Jimmy Bartel.
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Kennedy has shown nothing this year.. Nothing.. I am prepared to give him time in the VFL to prove he is capable but I had high expectations for such a highly ranked junior player and they are a long way from being met.
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It was there I agree, has got significantly better IMO.
Didn’t he identify it himself and get a sprint coach? I’d like Jack to do the same.
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He was doing fine before the ankle injury in round 1.
20 disposals (11 contested possessions) and 5 clearances supporting Cripps in the final JLT against Hawthorn. Everything went downhill from there but it wasn't for a lack of effort/talent.
Reminder: Jesse Palmer (ex-PTA) is playing ok too.
Agree with what you’re saying though & Hill was not really the type required (talk was another job was to be opened up for him in development that has never been announced as being his IIRC).
The O’Shea experience last season should have been laid out for prospects to join in the attempts to reignite careers (with maybe some older heads to train & add experience to the squad), which I’m sure this is the case for Fisher & Palmer this year but should have also applied to Shaw as well vs rookie listing.
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