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If you want to be the champion for health, Jester, stop advocating having marshamallows with Coke. The Coke is quite enough.

The obesity problem is caused by lack of exercise. Studies have shown that Americans aren't really eating all that more than they were 30 years ago, but that getting off your arse doing something has become a lost art. When I was a kid we went out and played every single day. The outdoors was our amusement. We played sport, went swiiming, hunting, fishing, riding bikes, hiking - you name it. At night we played hide and seek. We hated getting called in for supper. We came in, wolfed our dinner down so we could back outside. We hated getting called in for bed. We wanted to stay out and play. We were outside being active rain, shine or snow. That carried over into our adult lives....most of us.

Today I see all kinds of fat kids and I know they aren't eating any more than I did. I also know they aren't being active. Their idea of being active is having one hand on a TV remote and the other hand in a bag of chips. The most activity they have in a given day is jacking off. Well, we did that too on top of everything else.

This New York bullshit is definitely nanny state nonsense. No two ways about it. I'm not surprised at all and it's almost entirely NYC. SoCal will follow up soon. As for the rest of the country, we'd just as soon saw off NYC, Washington DC, Los Angeles and San Fracisco and let them them float off into their respective oceans so they can have their own little islands of ****wittery and leave the rest of us alone with their godam lefty socialist nanny agendas.

Relatively speaking, there are no truly "bad" foods when taken in moderation. There is only way to maintain an ideal body weight and that is to have balance between energy intake and energy output. Every fad diet, every claim of a miracle super food and every evil food witch hunt invariably falls flat in the face of science. You lose weight by doing more. You gain weight by a combination of eating more and doing more. Inarguable.

Peace & pass the marshmallows
I thought they were sugar cubes
 
It's cocaine...
Well.....damn.

Those aren't marshmallows. I try to stay fit as I can and I still think young and think of myself as being (somewhat) young, but there's no arguing that it might be time for me to consider getting glasses.

Doesn't change the fact that I've been hungry for marshmallows ever since I saw that pic. ;)
 

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The obesity problem is caused by lack of exercise. Studies have shown that Americans aren't really eating all that more than they were 30 years ago, but that getting off your arse doing something has become a lost art.
Lack of exercise is a big problem throughout the western world. Parents too lazy to take their kids to the park or somewhere they can run around and the easy babysitter of TV/computer/gaming console.

Relatively speaking, there are no truly "bad" foods when taken in moderation. There is only way to maintain an ideal body weight and that is to have balance between energy intake and energy output.
This is only half right. It's true in moderation food isn't going to hurt. I (and my two boys) have take away around once a fortnight. It's a treat, not a staple so they are learning by our lifestyle it's not a regular food. Again parents too lazy to cook healthy meals (which do not cost more than take-away, despite the lazy parents who try to weasle out of their poor parenting by saying it is). However it's not just energy in versus energy out. If that energy in is sugar and artificial colouring / additive loaded crap it's going to be worse for the kids in getting / maintaining a health body and healthy weight then eating right.

It all comes back to personal and parental responsibility for food though. It's not like smoking where someone eating a burger next to you can give you second hand type II diabetes. I'm all for trying to recoup costs, but it should be done at either the treatment end (have a heart attack and you're obese, be forced to cough up to pay for treatment) or via yearly checkups to ensure a healthy fat % (BMI being useless if you are fit). With boys 5 and 7 I know all about pester power, but I damn well don't want the Australian government following suit and trying to do their parenting for me.
 
Every restaurant I went to in the states re-filled my glass every 5 minutes while I wasn't looking.

Let's see what 30 seconds on Google will uncover...

http://online.wsj.com/article/AP5594b27dd2c64e6785f0241fb1f534e7.html

Restaurants with self-serve soda fountains will be prohibited from giving out cups larger than 16 ounces, even for diet sodas, but people will still be allowed refills

And I thought the carbon tax was a dud policy... :p

Last takeaway food I had stateside was Subway. Was heading home the next day and was slipping back into Oz mode and mistakenly said 'large' when asked which drink I wanted. 48 ounces of (admittedly unsweetened) ice tea takes some getting through!
 
This won't do a lot to deter people at restaurants/fast food outlets as there is still the option to get neverending free refills. Maybe might be a bit of a pain at sports games though.

I had a 32 oz Coke at Burger King when I went to the US a couple of years ago. Wouldn't do it again, but if people want the choice they should be allowed.
 
Great move. Hopefully this is the start cos America obesity problem is way out of hand, and whatever America does the rest of the world does.

Did you know: Amercans make up 1/3 of the entire world's human fat mass yet 7% of the worlds population.
Surprisingly enough I would've thought that it might've been over 40%.

On a recent trip to the US I was amazed at the number of people who are morbidly obese. I don't just mean overweight I mean Gina Reinhardt and bigger. They are huge, the food they eat taste terrible and comes in massive serves, I'm technically overweight (BMI of just over 25) and couldn't once finish a main meal served in any restuarant (was only in Southern states for work), yet I'd watch them eat 3 courses where each serve was the size I'd share between 3.

It is worth noting that a recent study found that when you allowed for the infant mortality, a coal miner/factory worker in Victorian England (cira 1850s) had a longer life expectancy that the lower classes in the US today!
 
Wait this actually went through. i remember Jon Stewart going on about this on the daily show a couple of months back. Geez, I'm looking forward to in 50 years time where we all become the same, drive at 20 km/h and eat carrots for breakfest, lunch and dinner. :rolleyes:

You'd prefer a future where kids die before their parents of things like diabetes and heart disease? I'm generally against these sorts of nanny state laws but the level of obesity in western countries is huge. The drain on health care systems will only increase unless some sort of action is taken. Whaddya do?
 

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