O/T: Does Brogan's delayed arrest set a bad example?

[portentous]

Have a sook JM-then get a life.

 

[- PC -]

I bet if this was Biglands you'd be foaming at the mouth!

And you would be calling him an idiot for saying Biglands should come home...your point?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Yep, if it was a member of the general public they wouldn't be allowed to do what they want like that.

I'm quite happy for you to recount every verifiable instance you know of where this has or hasn't happened. Not hearsay mind u seeing as you are obviously a stickler for legal process. Actual case histories. Line them up.

I bet if this was Biglands you'd be foaming at the mouth!

I have much more important things to worry about than whether Rhett Biglands would either be detained at the airport before a game or police waited until he returned to collect a statement from him about an alleged assault.

But I think you've just revealed your motivation.

But seriously, if you think it's such a big deal, there's the PCA number. Call them and register your concern. Don't just keep crying here on an internet forum to a bunch of people who really don't care.

 

[just maybe]

and this is where your argument collapses - and is the basis of everyone else's point in this thread except yours.

The fact that he is a public figure gave the police confidence that he could be interviewed later....and therefore there was nothing to be served by dragging him off and locked up.

I never said he should be dragged off and locked up. He should have been interviewed - the offence was very serious and he already had a pending charge of a similar nature.

His celebrity has resulted in a double standard - the police should not recognise such a double standard and should treat as they would a member of the general public, which would be to take him in and interview him on the spot. The fact that he already had a pending charge makes it even more serious. The law does not make provision for celebrity treatment, even if some police act like it does.

And if Biglands did the same thing, I would feel the same. If Brogan is stupid and violent enough to punch someone in the face, he doesn't deserve to be going to the game anyway.

 

[just maybe]

I'm quite happy for you to recount every verifiable instance you know of where this has or hasn't happened. Not hearsay mind u seeing as you are obviously a stickler for legal process. Actual case histories. Line them up.

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I have much more important things to worry about than whether Rhett Biglands would either be detained at the airport before a game or police waited until he returned to collect a statement from him about an alleged assault.

Yes, I'm sorry. Your thousands of posts on a footy forum show how important your time is. I'm sorry to have bothered you.

But I think you've just revealed your motivation.

But seriously, if you think it's such a big deal, there's the PCA number. Call them and register your concern. Don't just keep crying here on an internet forum to a bunch of people who really don't care.

I don't care enough to register a complaint and nothing would happen. I merely wanted to open a discussion, unfortunately several people just had a go at me as a result.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

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Exactly. None. Just hearsay.

Yes, I'm sorry. Your thousands of posts on a footy forum show how important your time is. I'm sorry to have bothered you.

It simply doesn't rate as an issue with me. If it had been Biglands I'd have shrugged and said 'so what?'. It was a common sense approach. It's not like he machine gunned down 30 people in the terminal.

I don't care enough to register a complaint and nothing would happen. I merely wanted to open a discussion, unfortunately several people just had a go at me as a result.

Barely anbody has agreed with you and yet you persist. If you feel that strongly - complain. Otherwise let it go. It's not really much of a discussion is it? More like the sound of one hand clapping.

 

[RogerRabbit69]

JM, for what it's worth, my personal view is that you are blowing things out of proportion.

Common sense says the police knew they would have the opportunity to continue their investigations upon Brogan's return. Brogan did the wrong thing - but I believe to detain him and prevent him from travelling to Melbourne would have been excessive.

I'm sure you'll disagree - and obviously that's your prerogative.

I note you also say you don't care enough to register a complaint. However, you seem to care enough to submit endless posts on the topic in this forum. To me, that doesn't add up.

 

[maccas_no1]

Because some yahoo insinuated he was king hit by Dean Brogan means the police should apprehend and arrest him right there on the spot? I have no problem with how the SA police force handled this.

Innocent until proven guilty and it’s not like Dean Brogan is going to disappear into the night. FFS

Get over it.

Spot On

 

[maccas_no1]

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Yes, I'm sorry. Your thousands of posts on a footy forum show how important your time is. I'm sorry to have bothered you.



I don't care enough to register a complaint and nothing would happen. I merely wanted to open a discussion, unfortunately several people just had a go at me as a result.

Its out of our hands everyone has had their say on the matter, and a majority of people have come to this conculsion:

Dale is a TOOL as he admits he regularly goes to the airport to give opposition AFL players a bit of a 'send off', this time he has copped what he deserves a smack in the gob.

Brogan should have handled the situation better.

No AFC supporter on this site wants anything to do with the Dale TOOL, because I highly doubt anyone would do what he sets out to do and be small minded as Dale, 'ohhh bigman Dale having some smartarse comment to say at the airport'

If you support Dale then you are as big a TOOL as he is, and Im sure this isnt Dale's first smack in 'lamb chops' either.

 

[just maybe]

Its out of our hands everyone has had their say on the matter, and a majority of people have come to this conculsion:

Dale is a TOOL as he admits he regularly goes to the airport to give opposition AFL players a bit of a 'send off', this time he has copped what he deserves a smack in the gob.

Brogan should have handled the situation better.

No AFC supporter on this site wants anything to do with the Dale TOOL, because I highly doubt anyone would do what he sets out to do and be small minded as Dale, 'ohhh bigman Dale having some smartarse comment to say at the airport'

If you support Dale then you are as big a TOOL as he is, and Im sure this isnt Dale's first smack in 'lamb chops' either.

Why because I am critical of Brogan does everyone seem to think I'm supporting Dale?

 

[just maybe]

JM, for what it's worth, my personal view is that you are blowing things out of proportion.

Common sense says the police knew they would have the opportunity to continue their investigations upon Brogan's return. Brogan did the wrong thing - but I believe to detain him and prevent him from travelling to Melbourne would have been excessive.

I'm sure you'll disagree - and obviously that's your prerogative.

I note you also say you don't care enough to register a complaint. However, you seem to care enough to submit endless posts on the topic in this forum. To me, that doesn't add up.

You don't have sicussion with the police, and they won't do anything about such a complaint.

Brogan did the wrong thing, and had a prior charge of a similar thing. Why is holding him for interview excessive? He once again (allegedly) stupidly lashed out, he doesn't deserve to go and get paid to play football. He should suffer the consequences and be dealt with forthwith like any normal person would be.

Instead he goes and makes back whatever piddly fine Port will sock him with in his match payment.

 

[maccas_no1]

Why because I am critical of Brogan does everyone seem to think I'm supporting Dale?

Everyone agrees Brogan went about it the wrong way, we have all said that, the police hadnt even got there by the time Brogans plane had left, so they couldnt do anything about it till they got back on Sunday night.

D-O Y-O-U U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D ?-?-?

 

[*PAF]

Why because I am critical of Brogan does everyone seem to think I'm supporting Dale?

Because it seems that you are going way over the top with respect to Brogan just because he plays for Port, that's why.

 

[just maybe]

Everyone agrees Brogan went about it the wrong way, we have all said that, the police hadnt even got there by the time Brogans plane had left, so they couldnt do anything about it till they got back on Sunday night.

D-O Y-O-U U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D ?-?-?

Aren't there security officers at the Adelaide Airport? They have the power to detain.

I'd say someone smacking someone in the face in the airport is a pretty good reason to detain that someone for interview.

D-O Y-O-U U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D ?-?-?

 

[just maybe]

Because it seems that you are going way over the top with respect to Brogan just because he plays for Port, that's why.

I'd be the same for Biglands. I think Brogan's action was atrocious and the fact that he is getting so much support is beyond me. He's simply a dumb thug.

Dale is no better, but what Brogan did was worse than what Dale did.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Its out of our hands everyone has had their say on the matter, and a majority of people have come to this conculsion:

Dale is a TOOL as he admits he regularly goes to the airport to give opposition AFL players a bit of a 'send off', this time he has copped what he deserves a smack in the gob.

Brogan should have handled the situation better.

No AFC supporter on this site wants anything to do with the Dale TOOL, because I highly doubt anyone would do what he sets out to do and be small minded as Dale, 'ohhh bigman Dale having some smartarse comment to say at the airport'

If you support Dale then you are as big a TOOL as he is, and Im sure this isnt Dale's first smack in 'lamb chops' either.

Just as JM needs to move on from this subject so do you and your mates of the "Dale is the anti-christ" pesuasion. Don't insult my intelligence by continuing on with this rubbish. In your eyes, who is more at blame, the mouthy halfwit or the guy with the PENDING ASSAULT CHARGE ( ding ding, alarm bells, alarm bells)? No need to answer its a rhetorical question.

Like others have said to JM move on FFS.

 

[Mad Dog]

Aren't there security officers at the Adelaide Airport? They have the power to detain.

I'd say someone smacking someone in the face in the airport is a pretty good reason to detain that someone for interview.

D-O Y-O-U U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D ?-?-?

are you bored JM??

surely you are just taking the wee wee now....

 

[*PAF]

... or the guy with the PENDING ASSAULT CHARGE ( ding ding, alarm bells, alarm bells)? ...
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Is there a link?

 

[Steve Dore]

I have to say, given Brogan was reported for assault, allowing him to catch the plane, play the game and return to Adelaide smacks of one rule for the general public, and another for celebrities.

How often will the police let a member of the general public go about their business to their satisfaction before arresting them? They won't........

For minor altercations like this all the time.

The police new the exact identity of the accused. They new he wasn't leaving the country nor was he a danger to any one else. To "arrest" Brogan at the airport and take him into custody, thereby preventing him from traveling to Melbourne and playing in the Carlton game, would leave the police open to legal action. The match payment Brogan would have been denied by the police would probably out way any fine he is likely to receive over this incident.

 

[Steve Dore]

Why because I am critical of Brogan does everyone seem to think I'm supporting Dale?

Are you sure you're not "Ted"?

I am not for a second condoning what Brogan did, it was wrong and he deserves to be made to account for his actions via our legal system. But you need to get a bit of perspective on the issue and stop watching so many cops and robbers show on the TV.

 

[RogerRabbit69]

Is it just me or is this thread going around in circles?

Poster A: JM, you're over-reacting

JM: No, I'm not

Poster A: Yes you are

JM: No, I'm not

etc, etc

 

[*PAF]

I'd be the same for Biglands. I think Brogan's action was atrocious and the fact that he is getting so much support is beyond me. He's simply a dumb thug.
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OK answer this one.
Should the police have arrested a drunken Goodwin for physically assaulting the photographer before any charges were laid? Yes or no.

 

[Steve Dore]

Is it just me or is this thread going around in circles?

Poster A: JM, you're over-reacting

JM: No, I'm not

Poster A: Yes you are

JM: No, I'm not

etc, etc

A: Ah, Is this the right thread for an argument?
JM: I told you once.
A: No you haven't.
JM: Yes I have.
A: When?
JM: Just now.
A: No you didn't.
JM: Yes I did.
A: You didn't
JM: I did!
A: You didn't!
JM: I'm telling you I did!
A: You did not!!
JM: Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?
A: Oh, just the five minutes.
JM: Ah, thank you. Anyway, I did.
A: You most certainly did not.

 

[just maybe]

OK answer this one.
Should the police have arrested a drunken Goodwin for physically assaulting the photographer before any charges were laid? Yes or no.

Firstly, there's a difference - Dale did report it pretty quickly as far as I'm aware.

And Goodwin should have been taken in for questioning if police were present, yes. They need to decide whether they're going to press charges and questioning Goodwin would have been a part of that.

Given security officers should have been present when Brogan did the deed, he should have been detained.

 

[Benno From Berwick]

Brogan is a DH.

What a fool getting involved in such a thing.

Poor reflection on him, his club and the Competition.