Yeah feels like she is going out on a high, which nobody can blame her for.
Just hope she isn’t going to rely on her TV presenting skills.
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Its a shame but i dont blame her.
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Not surprised that Arnie has retired.
She seemed to be enjoying life away from the pool when she was doing commentary work on 9 for the World Championships.
She didn't come across as a Katie Ledecky whose whole live revolves around swimming for as long as possible with almost no breaks from competition.
She seemed to be enjoying life away from the pool when she was doing commentary work on 9 for the World Championships.
She didn't come across as a Katie Ledecky whose whole live revolves around swimming for as long as possible with almost no breaks from competition.
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A tragedy that she retired (particularly for our 4x2 team) but nor shocking considering her apparent loss of motivation since Paris.
But in LA she could have been the first Aussie since Dawn in 1964 to 'three-peat' an Olympic Gold
But in LA she could have been the first Aussie since Dawn in 1964 to 'three-peat' an Olympic Gold
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Thanks for the ride Arnie - a true champion. Enjoy the next chapter of your life.
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I've feared for a fair while that this news was coming.
As others have said, Arnie seems to have reveled in life away from swimming and has presumably - deservedly - made very good money from appearances, endorsements and commentary roles.
The only real mountain left to climb which may have motivated her back into the pool would be to win three consecutive Olympic 400 metre titles. As awesome as that would be, the reality is LA is still nearly three years away. By then she will be almost 28 and would be competing against McIntosh who should be at her peak at that stage, as well as others who will emerge as happens in every Olympic cycle.
It's sad to see Arnie retire, but she has left us with amazing memories one of our greatest Olympians. Her 400 win in Tokyo in particular is one of my all-time favourite Olympic moments.
As others have said, Arnie seems to have reveled in life away from swimming and has presumably - deservedly - made very good money from appearances, endorsements and commentary roles.
The only real mountain left to climb which may have motivated her back into the pool would be to win three consecutive Olympic 400 metre titles. As awesome as that would be, the reality is LA is still nearly three years away. By then she will be almost 28 and would be competing against McIntosh who should be at her peak at that stage, as well as others who will emerge as happens in every Olympic cycle.
It's sad to see Arnie retire, but she has left us with amazing memories one of our greatest Olympians. Her 400 win in Tokyo in particular is one of my all-time favourite Olympic moments.
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O'Callaghan breaks world record for second time in one week
Mollie O'Callaghan caps a brilliant week at the swimming World Cup in Toronto, setting a new short-course world record in the 200-metre women's freestyle.
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Crazy day of swimming at the WC. Pallister obliterated Ledeckys 800WR (was a slightly soft WR to be fair). McKeown and Smith both under the 200Back WR again. Douglass first woman under 49sec in the 100free. Plus a few other random WRs for laughs. Think they need to check the pool for length!
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Since I'm having a quiet afternoon, and post the three WC stops in the USA/Canada, I thought it would be a good chance to look at the shape of Women's freestyle and try and make some 2028 Olympic predictions... Excuse the long post.
W50 Sjoestroem’s still the one to beat if she chooses to make a comeback after motherhood (even at 35 years of age). Assuming she doesn’t then it’s a crapshoot that the USA likely wins. I’d favour an American at home, in order from most to least likely Douglass (if she swims it – depending on the 100/200 Breast schedule), Gretchen Walsh – depending on the 50/100 Fly schedule), Huske, Manuel (if not retired) or even Rylee Erisman (she’ll be 19 or 20 in 2028). Meg Harris the best Aussie bet ahead of Shayna Jack (motivation dependent). The Aussies will be happy it’s in a 50 meter pool, not a 25m bathtub where the US sprinters dominate with better underwaters and turns. One interesting thought – does someone try the Cam McEvoy training routine and go all in as a 50 specialist? Harris might be the best bet to specialise. Gretchen Walsh won’t give up the Fly but she already does a lot of lifting and could dominate with her strength by 2028.
Sjoestroem, Douglass, Harris
W100 With Titmus now gone does O’Callaghan bias her training more towards 100m speed against 200m speed endurance given she has over a second on the rest of the world in the 200? She might have to in order to beat Douglass who was amazing in the 25m pool in the recent WC, but in reality is still a bit behind O’Callaghan in long course when she is at her best. Gretchen Walsh, Jack, Harris (if she doesn’t just specialise in the 50m) and Sjoestroem all in the mix though I expect both Walsh and Sjoestroem to favour the Fly ahead of Freestyle. Haughey and Steenbergen best of the non USA/Aus bunch, especially Haughey who has the 3rd best time in history and is often underrated. One point about O’Callaghan is that she struggles to back up after an epic performance so if the 100 is after the 200 her hopes are less positive. Really open this race, at this stage anyone of 6 or 7 could win.
O’Callaghan, Haughey, Douglass
W200 O’Callaghan has this on lock. McIntosh next best but she won’t swim it. Haughey next best after that at the moment. Then take your pick from Steenbergen, Pallister, Fairweather, someone from China and someone from the USA. Weinstein looks like she’s still got lots of room to grow and has the benefit of home ground. Can’t see Ledecky racing this, will save herself for the longer races.
O’Callaghan, Weinstein, Haughey
W400 McIntosh even more locked than O’Callaghan in the 200. Pallister easily next best given her sharp upward trajectory, but Weinstein will be coming hard at her in the 400 by the time 2028 rolls around. Bingjie Li and Fairweather next best. I wonder if Ledecky might go all in on the 800/1500 double and skip the 4? Regardless I think she misses out here.
McIntosh, Pallister, Weinstein
W800 Perhaps the most interesting freestyle race of all now there is a big three. How does Ledecky’s form hold up after another three years? Who handles fatigue of a big program best? Going to make a big call that Ledecky will be overtaken by the next generation.
McIntosh, Pallister, Ledecky
W1500 Ledecky still the queen of the longest pool race. Surely Quadarella will be on the down curve by then (even if she is younger than Ledecky). Pallister another runners up medal?
Ledecky, Pallister, Kirpichnikova
W4x100 Favour the US (4 from Douglass, Manuel, Walsh, Huske and Erisman) to dethrone the Aussies (but they won't take our otherworldly World Record). For once they will have the depth advantage. We need Shayna Jack back in form and one of Wunsch or Jansen to take the next step alongside O’Callaghan and Harris. China could even push us for 2nd depending on who comes through for them.
USA, Aust, China
W4x200 As long as O’Callaghan dominates the 200, we should have the US covered. Pallister’s recent improvement will also be useful. But it will be a lot closer without Titmus. Aus definite favorites this far out with a good depth of second tier swimmers to pick from but would not be surprised if the USA pinched it at home depending on who comes through in the next few years.
Aust, USA, China
W50 Sjoestroem’s still the one to beat if she chooses to make a comeback after motherhood (even at 35 years of age). Assuming she doesn’t then it’s a crapshoot that the USA likely wins. I’d favour an American at home, in order from most to least likely Douglass (if she swims it – depending on the 100/200 Breast schedule), Gretchen Walsh – depending on the 50/100 Fly schedule), Huske, Manuel (if not retired) or even Rylee Erisman (she’ll be 19 or 20 in 2028). Meg Harris the best Aussie bet ahead of Shayna Jack (motivation dependent). The Aussies will be happy it’s in a 50 meter pool, not a 25m bathtub where the US sprinters dominate with better underwaters and turns. One interesting thought – does someone try the Cam McEvoy training routine and go all in as a 50 specialist? Harris might be the best bet to specialise. Gretchen Walsh won’t give up the Fly but she already does a lot of lifting and could dominate with her strength by 2028.
Sjoestroem, Douglass, Harris
W100 With Titmus now gone does O’Callaghan bias her training more towards 100m speed against 200m speed endurance given she has over a second on the rest of the world in the 200? She might have to in order to beat Douglass who was amazing in the 25m pool in the recent WC, but in reality is still a bit behind O’Callaghan in long course when she is at her best. Gretchen Walsh, Jack, Harris (if she doesn’t just specialise in the 50m) and Sjoestroem all in the mix though I expect both Walsh and Sjoestroem to favour the Fly ahead of Freestyle. Haughey and Steenbergen best of the non USA/Aus bunch, especially Haughey who has the 3rd best time in history and is often underrated. One point about O’Callaghan is that she struggles to back up after an epic performance so if the 100 is after the 200 her hopes are less positive. Really open this race, at this stage anyone of 6 or 7 could win.
O’Callaghan, Haughey, Douglass
W200 O’Callaghan has this on lock. McIntosh next best but she won’t swim it. Haughey next best after that at the moment. Then take your pick from Steenbergen, Pallister, Fairweather, someone from China and someone from the USA. Weinstein looks like she’s still got lots of room to grow and has the benefit of home ground. Can’t see Ledecky racing this, will save herself for the longer races.
O’Callaghan, Weinstein, Haughey
W400 McIntosh even more locked than O’Callaghan in the 200. Pallister easily next best given her sharp upward trajectory, but Weinstein will be coming hard at her in the 400 by the time 2028 rolls around. Bingjie Li and Fairweather next best. I wonder if Ledecky might go all in on the 800/1500 double and skip the 4? Regardless I think she misses out here.
McIntosh, Pallister, Weinstein
W800 Perhaps the most interesting freestyle race of all now there is a big three. How does Ledecky’s form hold up after another three years? Who handles fatigue of a big program best? Going to make a big call that Ledecky will be overtaken by the next generation.
McIntosh, Pallister, Ledecky
W1500 Ledecky still the queen of the longest pool race. Surely Quadarella will be on the down curve by then (even if she is younger than Ledecky). Pallister another runners up medal?
Ledecky, Pallister, Kirpichnikova
W4x100 Favour the US (4 from Douglass, Manuel, Walsh, Huske and Erisman) to dethrone the Aussies (but they won't take our otherworldly World Record). For once they will have the depth advantage. We need Shayna Jack back in form and one of Wunsch or Jansen to take the next step alongside O’Callaghan and Harris. China could even push us for 2nd depending on who comes through for them.
USA, Aust, China
W4x200 As long as O’Callaghan dominates the 200, we should have the US covered. Pallister’s recent improvement will also be useful. But it will be a lot closer without Titmus. Aus definite favorites this far out with a good depth of second tier swimmers to pick from but would not be surprised if the USA pinched it at home depending on who comes through in the next few years.
Aust, USA, China
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The UCI 2025 World Track Championships finished over the weekend in Santiago Chile. It went from Wednesday 22nd to Sunday 26th.
It was on Stan, which I don't have, so I only saw the highlights videos the UCI put out and I've linked below.
The Dutch dominated winning 6 of the 12 Olympic events and 3 of the other 10 non Olympic events. The Brits got a lot of placings in the Olympic events and won their 3 of their 4 golds in non Olympic events. 5 of their 8 silvers were in Olympic events.
The USA and Kiwis didn't perform as well as they did in Paris in the women's events.
Dutch sprint star Harrie Lavreysen repeated his Olympic efforts and won 3 events, Sprint, Team Sprint and Keirin events. He also won the 1km time trial, which used to be my second favourite event at the Olympics behind the teams pursuit before they scrapped it, after the 2004 Athens event.
He now has 20 world championship golds to go with his 5 Olympic golds. He has won 7 consecutive world sprint titles, 7 Team Sprint titles, 4 consecutive before silver in 2022 and 3 after it, 4 Keirin titles and the last 2 kilo time trials. He is an absolute beast. There is footage of his warm up and you can see he is exerting maximum force.
Oz won silver in the men's Team's Pursuit with only 2 of the 4 men that won gold in Paris. The women's team won bronze with a complete new team from Paris, where they finished 7th.
Oz's Leigh Hoffman won silver in the Keirin, bronze in the Sprint and bronze in the Team Sprint which was the same result as Paris.
Matthew Richardson who left Oz for GBR after the Olympics won silver behind Harrie Lavreysen in Sprint, just like in Paris and he rode in the GBR Team Sprint who like in Paris again finished 2nd to the Dutch lead by Lavreysen. Oz wanted to ban him from international competition for 2 years, but such a ban was deemed legally unenforceable. The UCI said he had to sit out 6 months from representing GBR.
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It was on Stan, which I don't have, so I only saw the highlights videos the UCI put out and I've linked below.
The Dutch dominated winning 6 of the 12 Olympic events and 3 of the other 10 non Olympic events. The Brits got a lot of placings in the Olympic events and won their 3 of their 4 golds in non Olympic events. 5 of their 8 silvers were in Olympic events.
The USA and Kiwis didn't perform as well as they did in Paris in the women's events.
Dutch sprint star Harrie Lavreysen repeated his Olympic efforts and won 3 events, Sprint, Team Sprint and Keirin events. He also won the 1km time trial, which used to be my second favourite event at the Olympics behind the teams pursuit before they scrapped it, after the 2004 Athens event.
He now has 20 world championship golds to go with his 5 Olympic golds. He has won 7 consecutive world sprint titles, 7 Team Sprint titles, 4 consecutive before silver in 2022 and 3 after it, 4 Keirin titles and the last 2 kilo time trials. He is an absolute beast. There is footage of his warm up and you can see he is exerting maximum force.
Oz won silver in the men's Team's Pursuit with only 2 of the 4 men that won gold in Paris. The women's team won bronze with a complete new team from Paris, where they finished 7th.
Oz's Leigh Hoffman won silver in the Keirin, bronze in the Sprint and bronze in the Team Sprint which was the same result as Paris.
Matthew Richardson who left Oz for GBR after the Olympics won silver behind Harrie Lavreysen in Sprint, just like in Paris and he rode in the GBR Team Sprint who like in Paris again finished 2nd to the Dutch lead by Lavreysen. Oz wanted to ban him from international competition for 2 years, but such a ban was deemed legally unenforceable. The UCI said he had to sit out 6 months from representing GBR.
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Day 4
Day 4
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Forgot to post Day 5 highlights the other day.
Short video of Harrie Lavreysen's 4 gold medals. He is just a ball of muscle.
Short video of Harrie Lavreysen's 4 gold medals. He is just a ball of muscle.
Coste, world's oldest Olympian, dies at age 101
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the schedule is out for the LA athletics all 3 rounds of women's 100m on same day, it will be spread across 13 days
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I assume that is
1) preliminary heats for the women who run between 12 and 15 seconds from small nations who can enter 1 woman and 1 man across all events if they haven't had anyone meet the qualifying standards and about 8 to 12 of them the qualify for heats
2) heats
3) 3 x semi finals
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Nope its prelims, heats, semis and finals all on the opening Saturday for the women's 100m. Start with a bang on Saturday, not a cruisy normal Friday.
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The competition schedule for the Los Angeles 2028 Olympic Games, published today, confirms that for the first time in history, athletics will span the entire Olympic period – starting on day one and running through to the final day of the Games.
The athletics competition will begin with a bang on Saturday 15 July 2028, as the women’s 100m takes centre stage on the very first day of Olympic action. All three rounds – including the final – will take place that day, ensuring the Games opens with one of the most electrifying events in sport. The men’s 10,000m and women’s shot put finals will also feature in the opening session, followed by the men’s 100m final on day two.
In total, athletics will be contested across 13 days between 15-30 July 2028. In-stadium competition at the iconic LA Memorial Coliseum will run for the first 10 days (15-24 July), before the focus shifts to the road events on 27, 29 and 30 July – culminating in the men’s marathon on the final day, with medals presented during the closing ceremony.
Finals will feature in 17 of the 20 sessions, with the schedule carefully crafted to allow the maximum number of potential doubles – such as the 100m & 200m, 200m & 400m (plus relays), 800m & 1500m, 1500m & 5000m, 5000m & 10,000m, and long jump & triple jump. This opens the door for stars such as Noah Lyles, Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone and Melissa Jefferson-Wooden to emulate the heroics of LA 1984 Olympic legend Carl Lewis, while also enabling middle- and long-distance doubles reminiscent of past Olympic greats.
A new repechage format will provide improved recovery time for athletes – at least 36 hours between round one and repechage in the 400m, and about 24 hours for the 800m and 1500m.
The mixed 4x100m relay will also make its Olympic debut, slotted between the 100m and 200m events.
At this stage, it is only the event allocation per session that has been finalised. World Athletics will now work with the LA28 OCOG over the next 2.5 years to finalise the detailed timetable.............
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So Athletics usually starts the first Friday and goes to the closing Sunday, but due to switch over to build the pool at SoFi Stadium after the Olympic ceremony, athletics will be on first Saturday to second Monday and then probably the 35km walks on the second Thursday, and the Mixed Relay Walk on the last Saturday, and women's marathon on last Saturday and then men's marathon on the final Sunday.
17 of the 20 sessions having finals is probably about $$$, make people want to go to morning sessions because its more than just heats, and the schedule for Europe is that some finals are on at 12pm LA time, which is 8pm London time and 9pm central European time.
That means Brisbane will probably do something similar so that morning session finals are good for the USA time zones.
A 12pm Brisbane Olympic final = 3am London time = 10pm NY time = 7pm LA time
Mixed 4x100m will be an interesting watch, and what the set up rules will be about the male and female order.
Women’s 100m to kick-start LA28 with athletics to cover entire Games period | PRESS-RELEASES | World Athletics
The competition schedule for the Los Angeles 2028 Olympic Games, published today, confirms that for the first time in history, athletics will span the entire Olympic period
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The competition schedule for the Los Angeles 2028 Olympic Games, published today, confirms that for the first time in history, athletics will span the entire Olympic period – starting on day one and running through to the final day of the Games.
The athletics competition will begin with a bang on Saturday 15 July 2028, as the women’s 100m takes centre stage on the very first day of Olympic action. All three rounds – including the final – will take place that day, ensuring the Games opens with one of the most electrifying events in sport. The men’s 10,000m and women’s shot put finals will also feature in the opening session, followed by the men’s 100m final on day two.
In total, athletics will be contested across 13 days between 15-30 July 2028. In-stadium competition at the iconic LA Memorial Coliseum will run for the first 10 days (15-24 July), before the focus shifts to the road events on 27, 29 and 30 July – culminating in the men’s marathon on the final day, with medals presented during the closing ceremony.
Finals will feature in 17 of the 20 sessions, with the schedule carefully crafted to allow the maximum number of potential doubles – such as the 100m & 200m, 200m & 400m (plus relays), 800m & 1500m, 1500m & 5000m, 5000m & 10,000m, and long jump & triple jump. This opens the door for stars such as Noah Lyles, Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone and Melissa Jefferson-Wooden to emulate the heroics of LA 1984 Olympic legend Carl Lewis, while also enabling middle- and long-distance doubles reminiscent of past Olympic greats.
A new repechage format will provide improved recovery time for athletes – at least 36 hours between round one and repechage in the 400m, and about 24 hours for the 800m and 1500m.
The mixed 4x100m relay will also make its Olympic debut, slotted between the 100m and 200m events.
At this stage, it is only the event allocation per session that has been finalised. World Athletics will now work with the LA28 OCOG over the next 2.5 years to finalise the detailed timetable.............
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So Athletics usually starts the first Friday and goes to the closing Sunday, but due to switch over to build the pool at SoFi Stadium after the Olympic ceremony, athletics will be on first Saturday to second Monday and then probably the 35km walks on the second Thursday, and the Mixed Relay Walk on the last Saturday, and women's marathon on last Saturday and then men's marathon on the final Sunday.
17 of the 20 sessions having finals is probably about $$$, make people want to go to morning sessions because its more than just heats, and the schedule for Europe is that some finals are on at 12pm LA time, which is 8pm London time and 9pm central European time.
That means Brisbane will probably do something similar so that morning session finals are good for the USA time zones.
A 12pm Brisbane Olympic final = 3am London time = 10pm NY time = 7pm LA time
Mixed 4x100m will be an interesting watch, and what the set up rules will be about the male and female order.
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Mixed 4 x 100m is sprinter overload. We already have the mixed 4 x 400.Nope its prelims, heats, semis and finals all on the opening Saturday for the women's 100m. Start with a bang on Saturday, not a cruisy normal Friday.
Women’s 100m to kick-start LA28 with athletics to cover entire Games period | PRESS-RELEASES | World Athletics
The competition schedule for the Los Angeles 2028 Olympic Games, published today, confirms that for the first time in history, athletics will span the entire Olympic period
The competition schedule for the Los Angeles 2028 Olympic Games, published today, confirms that for the first time in history, athletics will span the entire Olympic period – starting on day one and running through to the final day of the Games.
The athletics competition will begin with a bang on Saturday 15 July 2028, as the women’s 100m takes centre stage on the very first day of Olympic action. All three rounds – including the final – will take place that day, ensuring the Games opens with one of the most electrifying events in sport. The men’s 10,000m and women’s shot put finals will also feature in the opening session, followed by the men’s 100m final on day two.
In total, athletics will be contested across 13 days between 15-30 July 2028. In-stadium competition at the iconic LA Memorial Coliseum will run for the first 10 days (15-24 July), before the focus shifts to the road events on 27, 29 and 30 July – culminating in the men’s marathon on the final day, with medals presented during the closing ceremony.
Finals will feature in 17 of the 20 sessions, with the schedule carefully crafted to allow the maximum number of potential doubles – such as the 100m & 200m, 200m & 400m (plus relays), 800m & 1500m, 1500m & 5000m, 5000m & 10,000m, and long jump & triple jump. This opens the door for stars such as Noah Lyles, Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone and Melissa Jefferson-Wooden to emulate the heroics of LA 1984 Olympic legend Carl Lewis, while also enabling middle- and long-distance doubles reminiscent of past Olympic greats.
A new repechage format will provide improved recovery time for athletes – at least 36 hours between round one and repechage in the 400m, and about 24 hours for the 800m and 1500m.
The mixed 4x100m relay will also make its Olympic debut, slotted between the 100m and 200m events.
At this stage, it is only the event allocation per session that has been finalised. World Athletics will now work with the LA28 OCOG over the next 2.5 years to finalise the detailed timetable.............
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So Athletics usually starts the first Friday and goes to the closing Sunday, but due to switch over to build the pool at SoFi Stadium after the Olympic ceremony, athletics will be on first Saturday to second Monday and then probably the 35km walks on the second Thursday, and the Mixed Relay Walk on the last Saturday, and women's marathon on last Saturday and then men's marathon on the final Sunday.
17 of the 20 sessions having finals is probably about $$$, make people want to go to morning sessions because its more than just heats, and the schedule for Europe is that some finals are on at 12pm LA time, which is 8pm London time and 9pm central European time.
That means Brisbane will probably do something similar so that morning session finals are good for the USA time zones.
A 12pm Brisbane Olympic final = 3am London time = 10pm NY time = 7pm LA time
Mixed 4x100m will be an interesting watch, and what the set up rules will be about the male and female order.
Instead of this why don't they bring in a mixed 4 x 1500m? With a long program you slot it in in the last 2 days. It gives the middle distance runners another medal chance and there would be a lot of countries with a genuine podium chance (USA, GB, Kenya, Ethiopia, Aust, Spain off the top of my head). Runners from 800m up to 5000m would be competitive. Lord Coe should make it happen.
Thats not really what the Olympics want, any additional events they want it to be dynamic events that people are going to watch and appeal to younger audiences, its why the form 50's are in for LA and it also helps them potentially win a few extra medals
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I don't agree with your vision of dynamic. Yes they are bringing in events to appeal to youth like BMX and skateboard. However the assumption that the majority would rather watch a 15 second race over a 15 minute one is b/s. Maybe they think this is what US fans want but the sporting culture I see around the world is much different. Marathons and cycling road races and triathlons (free I admit) get enormous crowds both in and outside olympics.
If you talk to a lot of the swimming community they have very mixed views of the form 50s. Unlike track and cycling sprints it's hard to even see who is in front most of the race. I think the IOC are making a huge mistake bringing them in - swimming is already overloaded with too many similar events and it further devalues olympic medals which in swimming are already relatively easy to get. There's at least 10 swimmers I can think of heading into LA (McKeown, McIntosh, both Walsh sisters, Douglass, Marchant, Kos, Scott, Casas, O'Callaghan, Ceccon) who won't be able to race in events where they could realistically podium or even win because of schedule conflicts and just too many events.
4 x 1500 would be dynamite from a spectator p.o.v. I've been to Bislett during a Diamond league. During the distance races the fans are on their feet and the front row is banging on the advertising hoardings every lap. It doesn't require any extra numbers to be added to teams and most of the competitors would only have one other event to race. It would be far more exciting and interesting than yet another 4 x 100m. If it's on the last 2 days no one's going to sit it out (unlike yet another sprint/sprint relay).
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Been a bit slack the last few weeks and not posted some Winter Olympics stuff, especially Aussies doing well in lead up events across several disciplines.
Also there have been a lot of stories recently re a few venues might not be built/finished in time in Milan-Cortina.
The ice hockey venue saga is a) the ice rink wont be built to NHL standard size 60.96m length agreed between the NHL, the players association, the IOC and the IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) but the IHF's 60m and b) concerns that it wont be completed in time. Its the first time in 12 years NHL players are participating, but there is a threat that if delays mean the quality of the ice isn't up standard then the NHL players will pull out = "If the ice isn't ready and it's not safe, then we're not going," he said. "I mean, I think that's pretty self-evident."
www.abc.net.au
Last Olympics the Australian mixed doubles curling pair of Tahli Gill and Dean Hewitt were the last pair to qualify and managed to win 2 of their 9 matches and finished 10th of 10 teams. I found myself watching some of their matches.
A few days before Christmas I heard they are ranked #1 in the world and are a medal chance. What a remarkable transformation. No guarantee that they will win but are a genuine medal chance. I looked up the rankings to make sure I heard correctly.
worldcurling.org
Also there have been a lot of stories recently re a few venues might not be built/finished in time in Milan-Cortina.
The ice hockey venue saga is a) the ice rink wont be built to NHL standard size 60.96m length agreed between the NHL, the players association, the IOC and the IIHF (International Ice Hockey Federation) but the IHF's 60m and b) concerns that it wont be completed in time. Its the first time in 12 years NHL players are participating, but there is a threat that if delays mean the quality of the ice isn't up standard then the NHL players will pull out = "If the ice isn't ready and it's not safe, then we're not going," he said. "I mean, I think that's pretty self-evident."
The Milan Olympic ice hockey stadium still isn't built — and it's already the wrong size
Ice hockey players from the NHL are due to compete in the Winter Olympics tournament for the first time in 12 years at Milan-Cortina. But the league is holding its breath over a rink that has is smaller than expected — and isn't even complete yet.
www.abc.net.au
Last Olympics the Australian mixed doubles curling pair of Tahli Gill and Dean Hewitt were the last pair to qualify and managed to win 2 of their 9 matches and finished 10th of 10 teams. I found myself watching some of their matches.
A few days before Christmas I heard they are ranked #1 in the world and are a medal chance. What a remarkable transformation. No guarantee that they will win but are a genuine medal chance. I looked up the rankings to make sure I heard correctly.
World Curling Team Rankings: Mixed Doubles Teams
worldcurling.org
| Rank | Team | Location | YTD | TOTAL | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1. |  | Gill/Hewitt | Australia | 188.8 | 226.9 |
| 2. |  | Kim/Jeong | Korea | 187.1 | 187.1 |
| 3. |  | Zelingrova/Chabicovsky | Czechia | 165.9 | 178.3 |
| 4. |  | Skaslien/Nedregotten | Norway | 126.4 | 159.1 |
| 5. |  | Ye/Yu | China | 147.5 | 147.5 |
| 6. |  | Koana/Aoki | Japan | 119.7 | 145.7 |
| 7. |  | Westman/Ahlberg | Sweden | 116.3 | 126.4 |
| 8. |  | Thiesse/Dropkin | Minnesota | 94.3 | 118.3 |
| 9. |  | Perret/Rios | Switzerland | 95.3 | 114.2 |
| 10. |  | Kaldvee/Lill | Estonia | 66.7 | 112.7 |
| 11. | | Matsumura/Tanida | Japan | 63.7 | 88.0 |
| 12. |  | Ford/Campbell | Ontario | 73.7 | 86.3 |
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They lost to Czechia and South Korea in the play-offs just before christmas so they won't even be going now. Such a shame would have been so cool for them to bring some attention to such an obscure sport here
Nice to see some winters olympics discussion though. Always love watching some of some of the stuff that doesn't usually get any attention here outside of the olympics