Ottens isn't going anywhere until we get a magnificent deal

[madtiger2005]

Ottens is a huge loss, because he would have been a much better play under Wallace, like every player we have and we would be a much better team. As Wallace said, If we don't get offered a great trade and Ottens goes into the draft, then we will pick him up straight away lol. We will be a much better club next year and we will be no worse than Sydney or Geelong. Ottens is obviously looking for the money, because he has friends down at Richmond and we finally have the coach we have been looking for and we have a bright future. We are also a much bigger club than Syndey or Geelong. Up yours Otto

 

[madtiger2005]

I expect at least a first draft pick and a good ruckman. Hey if teams aren't willing to give that to us then Ottens will suffer with us lol

 

[Tambo]

I expect at least a first draft pick and a good ruckman. Hey if teams aren't willing to give that to us then Ottens will suffer with us lol

having fun replying to ur own threads? lol. we will get a decent deal. miller will use the pre-season draft against teams who wish to have ottens. make them give up more than they would if we didnt have that pick. we have a good trade comming ahead!

 

[BigCat1]

having fun replying to ur own threads? lol. we will get a decent deal. miller will use the pre-season draft against teams who wish to have ottens. make them give up more than they would if we didnt have that pick. we have a good trade comming ahead!

Ahh no they won't. Richmond WILL NOT redraft Ottens. Otherwise he will get paid what he wanted in the first place + you will have wasted your golden 1st pick. If you wanted him that bad you would have signed him up on his terms.

Other clubs know there is zero chance of Richmond letting Ottens go into the PSD and re-drafting him. It just defies logic

 

[hotdogandsauce]

thats why the the club that gets him will come to the party, because he is more of a commodity to them than us...

 

[Darth_Tiger]

if we were not rebuilding rest assured he would have been re-signed. we really dont lose by offloading him because we wont be in contention for a few years anyway. if we were in the cats position it would be a disaster to lose him, but since the next few years will most likely be developing kids anyway it wont hurt too much to develop a couple more without big bad brad. other clubs will know this, he is hot property and ready to deliver after a couple of injury riddled years.

 

[jezza]

Ahh no they won't. Richmond WILL NOT redraft Ottens. Otherwise he will get paid what he wanted in the first place + you will have wasted your golden 1st pick. If you wanted him that bad you would have signed him up on his terms.

Other clubs know there is zero chance of Richmond letting Ottens go into the PSD and re-drafting him. It just defies logic

Agreed. As to how good the deal is, I think a major factor will be how willing Ottens will be to go to another club other than Geelong. I'm sure the tigers will try to deal with Geelong, but if another club offers a lot more, obviously we will try and send him there. He has to understand that if a trade isn't done to Geelong, or another club he would be interested in going to, he will end up in the PSD and have little control over where he will end up.

 

[Seb]

having fun replying to ur own threads? lol. we will get a decent deal. miller will use the pre-season draft against teams who wish to have ottens. make them give up more than they would if we didnt have that pick. we have a good trade comming ahead!

Hate to burst your bubble, but any club who deals with Richmond are in the 'bargaining position'.

Richmond are forced to give up Ottens; or pay him the monstrous amount you originally signed him on, whilst he sits out for a year or plays football with a lazy attitude.

Thus, Collingwood, Hawthorn or Geelong will be in a brilliant position to get a fair deal. Tigers supporters should know better than anybody that the Doggies were held to ransom over Nathan G.Brown. The same rule applies for you and Ottens, even though he is contracted. Why? Because he has quit the Tigers.

You will get a good deal, but it will be a fair deal nonetheless. And so it should be.

 

[Seb]

He has to understand that if a trade isn't done to Geelong, or another club he would be interested in going to, he will end up in the PSD and have little control over where he will end up

I'm really struggling to see why Richmond would let him enter the PSD for NOTHING.

Yes, it was the way the cookie crumbled last season with Nick Stevens. But we all know there was bad blood between the two parties, and Port Adelaide honestly thought that Nick at Collingwood would be a hindrance to their Premiership chances.

Ironic now when you think about it.

Richmond will strike a deal, don't you worry about that. They'll jump at the opportunity, and with such a strong emphasis on developing younger talent, they'd be mad not to take a draft pick and another younger - middle aged player.

Just the way i see it, but if you want to carry on about getting nothing or redrafting him in the PSD, that's crazy talk.

 

[junior27]

If the Hawks were to deal for Ottens you can expect Angelo Lekkas and Ben Dixon to be in the mix.

Who would you prefer out of those 2?

The Tiges Delisted Blumfield did'nt they ?

I think he would be a chance of ending up at Hawthorn in the PSD at pick 2 if there is not much else available.

Very talented when at his best. How old is he?

 

[tigerdan]

Geelong have obviously been in his ear. They are desperate for a key forward. With Ottens in their team Geelong could be very, very good.

I expect Geelong and Sydney and maybe a few other 'challenging' teams to try to get him through a trade. I expect the Bulldogs and Hawthorn will try to get him to nominate for the draft.

There is no point in re-drafting him. With more than one team after Ottens I think we will do well out of the deal.

 

[madtiger2005]

Lekkas is getting old, Dixon sucks lol. I'll have your first 2 draft picks and Campbell Brown, in a swap for Ottens and Zantuck

 

[Fishfinger]

Ahh no they won't. Richmond WILL NOT redraft Ottens. Otherwise he will get paid what he wanted in the first place + you will have wasted your golden 1st pick. If you wanted him that bad you would have signed him up on his terms.

Other clubs know there is zero chance of Richmond letting Ottens go into the PSD and re-drafting him. It just defies logic

It has become a matter of principle for the club that they will not be bent over a barrel by players and managers at contract time like in recent years.
Terry Wallace repeated yesterday that Ottens will be taken with pick 1 if a suitable deal is not negotiated and he goes into the PSD, even though it would mean meeting his demands.
It is the same stand Port Adelaide made with Stevens but the big difference is once he went into the PSD he was gone for nothing. With Ottens either he goes for good compensation or he stays on terms Richmond is not happy with but that they have already been forking out for.

Shaitan, going into the PSD for nothing is not an option. Richmond have the bargaining power due to PSD pick 1.

 

[pieman1]

Want a good laugh? Go to the Geelong site and read the 'crap' they are offering for Ottens. How does David Spriggs and their first pick sound? That's what I thought crap! Purely as a hyperthetical Saddinton, Fosdike and Sydney's no1. That deal would blow out of the water the duds the Geelong people have suggested.

 

[madtiger2005]

Spriggs is crap. Geelong are just a team of good no frills players with discipline.

 

[jezza]

I'm really struggling to see why Richmond would let him enter the PSD for NOTHING.

Yes, it was the way the cookie crumbled last season with Nick Stevens. But we all know there was bad blood between the two parties, and Port Adelaide honestly thought that Nick at Collingwood would be a hindrance to their Premiership chances.

Ironic now when you think about it.

Richmond will strike a deal, don't you worry about that. They'll jump at the opportunity, and with such a strong emphasis on developing younger talent, they'd be mad not to take a draft pick and another younger - middle aged player.

Just the way i see it, but if you want to carry on about getting nothing or redrafting him in the PSD, that's crazy talk.

I wasn't saying it would happen, I was pointing out that going in to the PSD would be a bad thing for both Ottens and for Richmond, Ottens could end up at a team he doesn't want to be at, we would get nothing. I think we'll have a number of teams lined up for trades and I think Ottens will accept going to a lot of teams, even though he has nominated Geelong as his preference. At absolute worst I think we'll get a top ten pick for him. Bomber Thompson's comments gave me hope though, he rates him as at least a first round pick and good young player.

 

[Tigerrific]

I wasn't saying it would happen, I was pointing out that going in to the PSD would be a bad thing for both Ottens and for Richmond, Ottens could end up at a team he doesn't want to be at, we would get nothing. I think we'll have a number of teams lined up for trades and I think Ottens will accept going to a lot of teams, even though he has nominated Geelong as his preference. At absolute worst I think we'll get a top ten pick for him. Bomber Thompson's comments gave me hope though, he rates him as at least a first round pick and good young player.

If Essendon got pick 6 for Danny Jacobs last year, Ottens is worth at least an early draft pick and a good young player!

 

[CJH]

Hate to burst your bubble, but any club who deals with Richmond are in the 'bargaining position'.

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I disagree. Our negotiating position is very strong. This is becauase, there will be any number of clubs competing to get his services. A definite sellers market.

Nevermind Ottens falling through to the PSD. It will not get that far.

Geelong have an even, strong midfield and a top notch defence but lack venom up forward and are unable to kick winning scores. I put this teaser up a few weeks back here... how much would Geelong be prepared to pay for Richo? Now that Ottens has made his intentions known, the same question can be asked?

Geelong are approaching their premiership window and without a gun forward. Obtaining Ottens means a realistic tilt at the premiership over the next 3 years.

I would suggest that Geelong will go out of there way to pick him up. Unfortunately for them, their earliest pick is relatively late in the first round. I would suggest that we will be taking nothing less than a top 10 pick.

Sydney have also flagged interest in Ottens. Like Geelong however, they don't have the early draft picks to play with.

If either team is going to make a play, they will have to trade up to get the early pick. Either that or part with a player that they would sorely want to keep.

Maybe someone like Bartels or Jude Bolton?

This puts the Bulldogs and Hawthorn in the prime seat. Particularly Hawthorn who have the short term need to find a replacement for Spider. No doubt the Bulldogs would love to pick up Ottens but their need isn't as strong. Nonetheless, each team has picks 2/5 and 3/6 to negotiate with.

Competition and the need to make the strongest offer will put the Ottens Auction strongly in our favour.

 

[hotdogandsauce]

right on the money CJH, we have the merchandise that clubs with any sort of football nous would look seriously look at...

 

[skywalk750]

Spriggs is crap. Geelong are just a team of good no frills players with discipline.

Only wallace would give his first born for a sniff of Ablett, Ling, Bartel, Kelly, Johnson or even Tenace

And the discpline part, I think we were the 2nd highest giving free kicks away team after the bombers

 

[Tigerland]

Ahh no they won't. Richmond WILL NOT redraft Ottens. Otherwise he will get paid what he wanted in the first place + you will have wasted your golden 1st pick. If you wanted him that bad you would have signed him up on his terms.

Other clubs know there is zero chance of Richmond letting Ottens go into the PSD and re-drafting him. It just defies logic

You're probably right - zero chance. About the same chance as Geelong getting him if he does go into PSD. Do you think that Adelaide or Collingwood can't afford him? You're going to have to TRY harder.

 

[BigCat1]

You're probably right - zero chance. About the same chance as Geelong getting him if he does go into PSD. Do you think that Adelaide or Collingwood can't afford him? You're going to have to TRY harder.

Spot on. We both agree he will be traded. To where is anyone's guess.

PS Richmond is no where near in the situation Port has last year. They could wear losing Stevens for nothing, Richmond can't. As an interstate club they needed to make a stand to homesick players, Richmond don't. And Port didn't want Stevens to go to Collingwood coz they thought it could have cost them the flag. We'll beat you next year regardless of where Otto plays

Bottom line is he will be traded. I just hope it's to us

 

[hotdogandsauce]

there is a reason the he stated the cats and bomber has come and said a quality pick and player, they want him and have been in his ear...