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Patrick Smith:Assclown

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More of his usual pro-Carlton rhetoric :rolleyes:, and people complain about Caroline Wilson.


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,12545848%5E12270,00.html



It was good to see this article got a bagging on other fan forums as well, particularly Saints fans.
I love the part I've highlighted about how he believes we have cheated the cap going back to 1985. I guess Essendon (his team) have also cheated the cap going that far back considering they as big a rorters as Carlton. Yet he quotes Ron Evans who was involved at Essendon when they rorted the cap.


Carlton is empowered, but it must cap the whinges

March 15, 2005
FOOTBALL is prone to be an unthinking follower of fashion and fad.

If a premiership side has a Wiggle in the coaching box you can be damn sure Kermit, Donald Duck, Hi 5, Spiderman and Humphrey B. Bear will be appointed to coaching positions with other clubs over summer.

In fact, it is believed Kevin Sheedy has been channelling Spongebob Squarepants for the best part of a decade. Certainly Mick Malthouse is on light sabre terms with Darth Vader.

Now player empowerment is the rage. St Kilda has taken it to new limits - as it does most things. On his appointment to the captaincy, Nick Riewoldt told the public that it was not the board, the coach, the chief executive or the president who ran the Saints. None of them. It was the players.

St Kilda fans - and the AFL - hope that Riewoldt, in his enthusiasm, overstated the position. Fraser Gehrig is a marvellous footballer, but whether the intricate task of delivering a $30 million budget is best left to the G Train and, perhaps, Stephen Milne, is questionable.

Player empowerment is not a new concept. If David Parkin is to be believed then his sole role as coach when Carlton rose to power a decade ago was to ensure the toilet paper in the rooms was of sufficient softness to keep the footballers happy chappies.

Such is St Kilda's determination to challenge every plank of football philosophy that Riewoldt may well have just renegotiated his new contract with himself. But we rather fancy coach Grant Thomas allows the players to have their heads in football-specific areas. And then ones that will not directly determine the future of Thomas himself.

Player empowerment is not followed slavishly by everyone.

Alastair Clarkson, in a bid to retake control of a dysfunctional and self-indulgent Hawthorn, is rewriting the player rules.

Former skipper Shane Crawford was suspended from a practice match because he failed to attend a sponsor's outing.

Clarkson's actions were considered so drastic and unwise that Collingwood's football general manager Neil Balme refused to believe media reports. But Crawford is just one player to feel the strength of the new order at Hawthorn.

Denis Pagan has coached Carlton to the Wizard Cup premiership. Much has been made of the way he has savaged the playing list he inherited in 2003. Only 17 players remain from the 42 players Pagan took to just four wins in his first year. Pagan's job was to dismantle a perverse form of player empowerment.

The joy and satisfaction delivered by Saturday night's win over West Coast was blindingly evident. Pagan refused to talk down the significance of the win. Not for him the contrived and childish glumness that greeted St Kilda's win the season before.

"If you had been through what we have been through, you would want to celebrate, I can tell you," the coach told The Australian after the win. "I can't apologise for our exuberance and excitement. It means a hell of a lot to us."

Pagan has empowered his men to play better football with his systems, game plan and philosophies. That's empowerment by direction and not indulgence.

Carlton's win was a triumph because the club has been through much, though all of it self-imposed. Unfortunately, it is not something that the club is close to accepting or understanding. President Ian Collins still wails about the salary-cap penalties handed out in 2002.

Yes, they were severe but they had to be for the cheating was extensive and substantial. The Blues lost picks one, two, 31 and 34 in the 2002 draft; were excluded from the first round of that year's pre-season draft; banned from rounds one and two of the 2003 national draft; and fined $930,000. Anything less would have been lenient.

The club had been systematically rorting the salary cap rules. Probably since the mechanism was introduced in 1985. The 2002 salary-cap breaches were the third in four years. And the club had taken the salary-cap moratorium available in the early 1990s. "We will not tolerate blatant cheating," AFL commission chairman Ron Evans said when announcing the penalties.

Collins argued at the time the club was being punished for the actions of a previous administration. They were and they had to be. Just because John Elliott was forced to walk away in disgrace did not mean that the club could escape retribution. The other 15 clubs would have revolted.

Collo was complaining away again on Saturday. "I don't think you ever forgive the harshness of the penalties," he said.

Well, Collo, the club flouted rules intrinsic to the successful running of the national competition in a most arrogant way. It was that breach of trust that was unforgiveable.

Congratulations to Carlton - coaches, players and administrators - for rebuilding the club. But for all that whingeing, put a navy blue sock in it, Collo.
 
Wow, what a poor article. He took a long time to get to the point and in the end, it was more like his point of view. It just reeks of bitterness and desperation. I mean, he has to dig up old news and throw in some circumstancial lies to give his opinion some merit. Top journalism! :rolleyes:
But as every regular reader of 'The Australian' would know, Fatprick needs to get atleast 2 kicks in a week or else he runs out of ideas. This is just his way of filling in a slow sporting week.

Remember, this is the guy who blammed the Carlton Football Club for Norman taking an 'E'. His articles are garbage and rarely supported by facts.
 

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One thing about Smith I'll always remember and savor was a time several years ago now when Geelong had just beaten Roos in a thriller and he wrote a long winded spiel about how wonderful they were and how easily they would destroy Carlton the following week - something along the lines of "these Mighty Cats promise to be Carlton's downfall" is what sticks out in my mind.

Next week was the '95 Grand Final and we won in an absolute canter - somehow the 15 straight wins b4hand wasn't appealing enough form for the twonk to give us any chance.

The above article is yet another example of his blind prejudice against Carlton getting in the way of reason, he sounds like a petulant fool who's so angry that Carlton had some success that he dug up an old issue to sprout off about.

It's just pathetic, almost comical really!
 
i don't have a real problem with Patrick Smith or any journalist for that matter.
Take his editorials with a grain of salt. In fact sometimes i quite enjoy listening to his views on radio even if i don't agree with them. I actually like it when we have journos who hold a little animosity towards us. It would be pretty boring if everyone loved us.
 
legendtofski said:
Fatprick's a bum. whats wrong with Sam Lane? she barracks for Carlton too..you guys are too harsh!
Don't worry mate, it was just an Essendon supporter mouthing off at Sam Lane, it wasn't a Carlton person.

I like her! :)
 
luke2177 said:
Don't worry mate, it was just an Essendon supporter mouthing off at Sam Lane, it wasn't a Carlton person.

I like her! :)

Do you like her because she supports us or because she is a good journo. Personally i find her a bit irratating and pretty hard to look at. Especially when he pulls those rotten expressions on Before the Game.
 

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luke2177 said:
I'm not a big fan of Patrick Smith, but what's wrong with Sam Lane? :confused:
I have no problem with Sam Lane,either.What i was saying is,that AFL.COM isnt the best place to get footy opinion,it's propaganda for the AFL.So dont expect intelligent journalism from SOME journos there,i was wrong in naming Sam Lane.
 
Yes, they were severe but they had to be for the cheating was extensive and substantial. The Blues lost picks one, two, 31 and 34 in the 2002 draft; were excluded from the first round of that year's pre-season draft; banned from rounds one and two of the 2003 national draft; and fined $930,000. Anything less would have been lenient.
Do tell us Patrick ..... what exactly were our penalties? You are a journalist are you not? Is it not your job to find out the facts rather than embellish a few well chosen pieces of rhetoric from the AFL back in 2002? The AFL say we deserved the penalties (naturally), but you have nothing to go on yourself. Put up or shut up for once. You go on to say that anything less than our penalties would have been lenient. What is that based on Patrick? What are you comparing it to? What a complete and utter fraud. You are no more in the know than the rest of us and if somebody at the AFL had revealed more breaches to you than what the general public already know about, you would have splashed the details all over the front pages.

Congratulations to Carlton - coaches, players and administrators - for rebuilding the club. But for all that whingeing, put a navy blue sock in it, Collo. [/I]
Seems to me that Smith is the one bleating about our past everytime we show some glimmer of coming out the other side. Fair dinkum I read more about Carlton fan's complaining than I read of actual Carlton complaints. It's a furphy driven by people looking to shoot us down at every turn.
 

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cypher said:
Yes, they were severe but they had to be for the cheating was extensive and substantial. The Blues lost picks one, two, 31 and 34 in the 2002 draft; were excluded from the first round of that year's pre-season draft; banned from rounds one and two of the 2003 national draft; and fined $930,000. Anything less would have been lenient.

Well if Patrick did his research he would find that Carlton pleaded leniency. Obviosly he is saying we didn't get it.
 
I read this on the net the day it occurred and wondered what the story was actually about.

To an extent, he's correct though because I'm tired of the "we were hard done by" diatribe. The tirade that John Elliot went on about in the WC grand final at half time, and the constant retort from Collins about "we were burnt" regarding the salary cap penalties are getting tiring. It's not like we're suffering from something out of our control! It was OUR mistake, OUR lie(s), OUR deception. Collins shouldn't forget that you inherit the mistakes, good planning or misfortune from a previous board. If he wasn't happy about it, he shouldn't have gotten into it!

We're now in a great position, seeing as where we've come from and we should all be happy about our "new" status.

Anyway, back to Smith. He's anti bl00dy everything! But then that's what he's paid for.

Go us in 05
 
shacka said:
that's a perfect example of terrible journalism

poorly researched, driven by personal agenda, devoid of objectivity and ultimately uninformative
Been reading Mr Sheahen's scribblings have we?.
 
well, the good news is - after reading this article, i have decided to quit my job and fulfill my dream of becoming a football journalist. I never imagined it possible, as i thought it required years of university, and the ability to tell a story / point of view - in a well planned, and entertaining way. Apparently things have changed, and now all it takes is a bong, a typewritter, and a large dildo strapped to the seat of a chair...
On second thoughts, i will keep my current job....
 

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