PC Pc Gaming/building thread

[Xtreme]

This one if you need the optical drive internal. Should accommodate your GPU.

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/cases/mini-itx/84287-sst-sg14b

The internal optical drive requirement really limits your SFF case options.

Are we talking a blu ray a day, a couple a week, a few a month?

Another option could be to gut your R3 build and turn it into a dedicated ripping box and media server and leave in computer room.

Build a SFF gaming/media streaming rig and have it in the lounge room.

Usually a few a week, but if I slack off it might be 20+ a month. It's a nightmare if I've got box sets to rip (multiple TV series of 6 discs each lol).


I'm considering all options at this point. My R3 is 10 years old this year (well the Motherboard, power supply and case anyway... hdds, ram, odd and video cards have changed a few times!).

Have wanted to update since 2020, almost pulled the trigger last year but chickened out.

 

[blackshadow]

What's the mobo/cpu/psu in your R3? How many hard disks?

 

[Xtreme]

What's the mobo/cpu/psu in your R3? How many hard disks?

gigabyte z77x-ud3h
I5 3570k
Antec true power 750w (gold efficiency)

Usually 2x hdds, surviving on 1 at present

 

[blackshadow]

gigabyte z77x-ud3h
I5 3570k
Antec true power 750w (gold efficiency)

Usually 2x hdds, surviving on 1 at present

That should be fine for a ripping/media server rig.

 

[dav3]

Usually a few a week, but if I slack off it might be 20+ a month. It's a nightmare if I've got box sets to rip (multiple TV series of 6 discs each lol).


I'm considering all options at this point. My R3 is 10 years old this year (well the Motherboard, power supply and case anyway... hdds, ram, odd and video cards have changed a few times!).

Have wanted to update since 2020, almost pulled the trigger last year but chickened out.

Seems like a whole lot of effort when there are plenty of nice pirates around the world doing the job for you

 

[Xtreme]

Seems like a whole lot of effort when there are plenty of nice pirates around the world doing the job for you

Yarrrrrr matey

The difference is the quality I do is basically 1:1. Most rips I've encountered at the high seas are off slightly. Most people don't care for the quality loss vs smaller file sizes... but I can and it's very annoying.

That should be fine for a ripping/media server rig.

Oh it is as that's how I've been ripping my dvd's, blurays and 4ks. It's just long in the tooth now. I think at worst I would just need a power supply replacement (likely to fail soon!).

 

[sataris]

Do you mean 3.5" bays (i.e. normal HDD sizes)?

Also maybe I have a diff definition of SFF, but I don't think a micro-ATX case meets the definition. When I think SFF, I think of cases like the Cooler Master NR200, Dan Case A4, NCase M1 etc (i.e. under 10-12L in capacity)

I did mean 3.5"...

 

[sataris]

Yarrrrrr matey

The difference is the quality I do is basically 1:1. Most rips I've encountered at the high seas are off slightly. Most people don't care for the quality loss vs smaller file sizes... but I can and it's very annoying.


Oh it is as that's how I've been ripping my dvd's, blurays and 4ks. It's just long in the tooth now. I think at worst I would just need a power supply replacement (likely to fail soon!).

That really depends on where you're travelling, some are definitely better than others.

 

[dav3]

That really depends on where you're travelling, some are definitely better than others.

Yeah the water is a lot clearer in private coves than public bays

 

[Xtreme]

That really depends on where you're travelling, some are definitely better than others.

But I'm SUPER picky, even if there was just 1% compression I hate it!!!!

 

[dav3]

But I'm SUPER picky, even if there was just 1% compression I hate it!!!!

What bitrates/codecs are we talking here? and what are you watching them on?

 

[Xtreme]

What bitrates/codecs are we talking here? and what are you watching them on?

*I'll answer the bitrate/codec part when I'm able to right click and look at the properties details!

I'm not as fussy if it's a TV Series (eg: recently ripped Curb Your Enthusiasm again, this time for a tablet).

But if it's a movie I aim for 1:1 conversion regardless if it's the DVD, bluray or 4K. I know most people aren't fussy, but I can tell and hate when something is not right(eg: some rips not having the same quality during night scenes etc).

It's also why I'm largely against Netflix/Apple and streaming in general (I find the quality abysmal) I want the BEST quality possible.

 

[blackshadow]

It's also why I'm largely against Netflix/Apple and streaming in general (I find the quality abysmal) I want the BEST quality possible.

4K (HDR) content on Apple, Stan, Disney, Netflix and Prime is pretty decent if you have decent internet and all good TV. They all look stunning on my Sony 65in 95H.

Some of it's mind blowing.

 

[Xtreme]

4K (HDR) content on Apple, Stan, Disney, Netflix and Prime is pretty decent if you have decent internet and all good TV. They all look stunning on my Sony 65in 95H.

Some of it's mind blowing.

Ehhh , for me it can look washed out and not as vibrant as the original source. Watchable ? YES - but when I can get a better result, I'm going to rip my own content!!

 

[Purple Suit]

Ehhh , for me it can look washed out and not as vibrant as the original source. Watchable ? YES - but when I can get a better result, I'm going to rip my own content!!

Sounds like a lot of work. Can't you hook your computer up to a TV and play it directly if you have the files on it? I know nothing about this btw

 

[Xtreme]

Sounds like a lot of work. Can't you hook your computer up to a TV and play it directly if you have the files on it? I know nothing about this btw

Well when I say rip, that's essentially it, once I "rip" (or copy the dvd/bluray/4k) to the computer hard drive, I can then either watch it directly on the computer or copy it to a portable hard drive and then watch it on my lounge room (or other tvs) either directly through the tv itself or with the help of media players (eg: old school WDTV device or the Nividia shield etc).

This is something I've been doing since 2004/5 as a way to backup my purchases and rarely ever need to use the disc again - unless I need to re-copy it again for whatever reason. Also because I'm lazy and can't be stuffed ejecting discs when I want to chop and change movies after finishing watching them.

It's time consuming for most people but I don't to it to an "extreme scale" like I used to such as watching grand finals 29034723409327 times. Unless it's the first time I do it - eg: I only started backing up my bluray titles a few years ago. It took the better part of a month 2 solid weeks of copying for hours a day then another few weeks of backing up maybe 2-3 movies a day.

 

[sataris]

remuxes are great if you have 20-30GB to store a single film.

I've only got a 1080p tv, so anything beyond 25Mbps/1080p/x264 doesn't fit what I do. Most of mine are between 8 and 20Mbps anyway

One day when my plasma tv dies and i need to upgrade to 4k/8k I'll worry about things like x265

 

[dav3]

remuxes are great if you have 20-30GB to store a single film.

I've only got a 1080p tv, so anything beyond 25Mbps/1080p/x264 doesn't fit what I do. Most of mine are between 8 and 20Mbps anyway

One day when my plasma tv dies and i need to upgrade to 4k/8k I'll worry about things like x265

Yeah for the most part I don't get anything that's crazy quality because it's a little redundant with the TV's I have, my 4k TV isn't really big enough to warrant going extreme in terms of movie downloads, and in my Office I've only got an old 1080 TV.

Good quality stuff is certainly not hard to come by, these are the stats of a recently posted one, it's unlikely there would be many quality issues with it, unless you're sitting a foot away from the TV looking for artifacts.
General
Container......: Matroska
Duration.......: 2 h 10 min
Size...........: 49.3 GiB
Video
Format.........: HEVC
Format Info....: High Efficiency Video Coding
Format Profile.: Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR Format.....: Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.08.06, BL+RPU, HDR10 compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Resolution.....: 3840x2160
Aspect ratio...: 16:9
Bit rate.......: 49.3 Mb/s
Frame rate.....: 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Audio
Name...........: Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Codec..........: MLP FBA
Language.......: English
Channels.......: 8
Bit rate.......: 4 052 kb/s
Sampling rate..: 48.0 kHz
Other Info.....: TrueHD Atmos 7.1

 

[Xtreme]

remuxes are great if you have 20-30GB to store a single film.

I've only got a 1080p tv, so anything beyond 25Mbps/1080p/x264 doesn't fit what I do. Most of mine are between 8 and 20Mbps anyway

One day when my plasma tv dies and i need to upgrade to 4k/8k I'll worry about things like x265

When I backup the content that I legally purchase (just throwing that in as I'm not one that sails the 7 seas ) I sometimes retain the file/folder structure or I'll .iso it if I just want the main video content without the extras. DVDfab is what I primarily use to copy the disc over to the hard drive, and then either use the sister software to produce a smaller output file or manually use Handbrake.

I'm fine with 1:1 filesizes (hate sacrificing quality that I know is missing) and yes I'm also fine with collecting the hard drives for it (starting to pile up though!).

 

[Ry009]

Build day!

Is there any issue using the case fans for AIO, and the aio fans for case exhaust?

 

[drd23]

Build day!

Is there any issue using the case fans for AIO, and the aio fans for case exhaust?

Depends on the fans. Usually radiator fans have a higher CFM so they are better able to deal with the resistance caused by the radiator being there

 

[Ry009]

Yeah saw these two threads and thought still check with the experts here

 

[dwwaino]

People do it all the time even though technically it's not "ideal". Case fans are air flow fans and rad fans are static pressure fans. Just look at the fan blades if you want to see the difference. You really won't notice much if any difference anyway. Even less so as an exhaust because it doesn't need to blow through components or anything as well.

 

[blackshadow]

Build day!

Is there any issue using the case fans for AIO, and the aio fans for case exhaust?

Woohoo. I hope it goes smoothly!

Are you putting it together for a test before putting it in the case?

 

[drd23]

People do it all the time even though technically it's not "ideal". Case fans are air flow fans and rad fans are static pressure fans. Just look at the fan blades if you want to see the difference. You really won't notice much if any difference anyway. Even less so as an exhaust because it doesn't need to blow through components or anything as well.

Unless you're pushing your computer to the max frequently/heavily over-clocking it most things that are "ideal" don't really make that much real world difference