Players who have gone on one year too long

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True, but that has a bit more to do with a choke or two in finals (2016 and 2019 PFs)
Without derailing the thread - that’s the entire point. People forget we were serial chokers 2011 and 12 - we moved past it and won flags.
 

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Without derailing the thread - that’s the entire point. People forget we were serial chokers 2011 and 12 - we moved past it and won flags.
In fairness to Hawthorn, I think Collingwood were still a much better side in 2011. But 2012, yes.

I don’t remember the “perennial choker” tag being thrown around, not after you jagged one early in 2008.
 
Todd Goldstein.

Now a list clogger keeping CCJ out of the side .

Should hang them up.
 
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