Position Vacant - Head Coach FFC

[Geoff]

For mine I would like to see an old stalwart to take the job. Tommy Haffey or Stan Alves, either of these two would do. Enough of the untried. If the players want look up to either of these two we are doomed beyond redemption. Tommy, Stan please consider, what a wonderful challenge you would have !!

 

[docker_johnno]

The game has passed these dinosaurs.

I am sorry, but they were great coaches in their time.

 

[TheReason]

I have always believed and still do, that your best bet was to have made a massive play for Wallace, many year ago.

You need a Head Coach who is a Disciplinarian, 1st and foremost.

 

[sabre_ac]

I have always believed and still do, that your best bet was to have made a massive play for Wallace, many year ago.

You need a Head Coach who is a Disciplinarian, 1st and foremost.

Agreed
I called or it as well.

Sheedy was anothe and we can still get him.

 

[FreoFury]

We have never had a coach with experience. We have never had a coach with balls that demands/commands the respect of the players ie a disciplinarian as mentioned above. Whilst new coaches can thrive the odds are against it. We seriously need a coach with experience, preferably finals experience, and one with a bit of fire in the belly. We have made plays for these types of coaches before but have failed each time. We can no longer afford to. Time to throw the cheque book at someone like Mathews (he ll never come) or Sheedy (he just may) and give them carte blanche.

 

[Geoff]

Listened to Cuddley on WestCoastRadio following the game. The guy sounded devastated but still he talked in circles. He said that he would not name poor performing players in public and of course out came the word disappointment. If that is the best he can do to plecate the growing throng calling for his scalp, he is in dire trouble. He also refers to "The Club" and "The Supporters" as two distinct entities. There would be no "CLUB" (business) without Members/Supporters (shareholders) and that maybe just needs to be recognised. The Fremantle FC is not just 38 players and a group of paid officials, there are 35000 paid up members who also deserve an honest and truthfull explaination.

 

[Scham]

If Laidley becomes available, perhaps he would be an option.

Bare with me here- ok he hasn't achieved a hell of a lot at the Roos, but compare their list with ours?
Compare their annual coaching budget to ours?
Compare their facilities with ours?
Compare their resources to ours? For example, Freo has a forward coach in all states to rport on the oppositions training, players injuries etc. Laidley asks a mate to visit West Caost and/or Freo training a couple of times the week of a game against them - unpaid!

I think under the circumstances I think he has achieved quite a bit.
And, just imagine both Harvey and Laidley in the one coaching team! Try putting in a half arssed effort with them as your coaches!

 

[raffrox]

If Laidley becomes available, perhaps he would be an option.

Bare with me here- ok he hasn't achieved a hell of a lot at the Roos, but compare their list with ours?
Compare their annual coaching budget to ours?
Compare their facilities with ours?
Compare their resources to ours? For example, Freo has a forward coach in all states to rport on the oppositions training, players injuries etc. Laidley asks a mate to visit West Caost and/or Freo training a couple of times the week of a game against them - unpaid!

I think under the circumstances I think he has achieved quite a bit.
And, just imagine both Harvey and Laidley in the one coaching team! Try putting in a half arssed effort with them as your coaches!

Very much disagree with getting Laidley. It is a given now that Connolly has had his chance and is GAWN.

Its unfortunate that Freo didn't go for Worsfold more. The rumours were that he wasn't the first pick at West Coast and that Freo never even offered him a contract. A handsome contract offer at the right time in that scenario would have us in the top 4 with Worsfold as our coach right now.

Sheedy is a bit past it in my opinion. He is currently acting like an insurance salesman and using every trick in the book to delay his inevitable sacking (i.e. justifying Essendon tanking, playing Dean Rioli for two games so his sons can be father-son even though he doesn't deserve a spot).

When Eade and Wallace were in the commentators box we should have struck. Now there's just washed out has-been's (Alves, Ayres etc...) and the unproven (Harvey, Chris Bond, O'Donnell etc...). Harvey's most probably our best bet.

Any one else people think might be ok?

 

[spitlizard]

If Laidley becomes available, perhaps he would be an option.

Bare with me here- ok he hasn't achieved a hell of a lot at the Roos, but compare their list with ours?
Compare their annual coaching budget to ours?
Compare their facilities with ours?
Compare their resources to ours? For example, Freo has a forward coach in all states to rport on the oppositions training, players injuries etc. Laidley asks a mate to visit West Caost and/or Freo training a couple of times the week of a game against them - unpaid!

I think under the circumstances I think he has achieved quite a bit.
And, just imagine both Harvey and Laidley in the one coaching team! Try putting in a half arssed effort with them as your coaches!

I also rate Laidley, he's got the mongrel we need to kick a few of our lads back into line.

 

[pinkus maximus]

what about Wayne Carey? Remember Worsfold was only an assistant for 2 years when he took the WC job

 

[raffrox]

what about Wayne Carey? Remember Worsfold was only an assistant for 2 years when he took the WC job

A great way to instill integrity.

But I appreciate you throwing a name out there.

 

[Reveler]

I think the problems run deeper than head coach

 

[raffrox]

I think the problems run deeper than head coach

Such as? Leaders need to take responsibility for the culture and environment they create. This is almost CC's one biggest responsibility. Our culture and environment sucks. People will manage themselves and take the lead if these thinks are right in an organisation.

 

[spitlizard]

I think the problems run deeper than head coach

I CONCUR

 

[Alfonz]

Very much disagree with getting Laidley. It is a given now that Connolly has had his chance and is GAWN.

Its unfortunate that Freo didn't go for Worsfold more. The rumours were that he wasn't the first pick at West Coast and that Freo never even offered him a contract. A handsome contract offer at the right time in that scenario would have us in the top 4 with Worsfold as our coach right now.

When Eade and Wallace were in the commentators box we should have struck. Now there's just washed out has-been's (Alves, Ayres etc...) and the unproven (Harvey, Chris Bond, O'Donnell etc...). Harvey's most probably our best bet.

My recollection of events (I think it is pretty accurate) ... the Freo board approved the appointment of Worsfold, but Scwhab wanted his best mate and kind of vetoed it by offering Woosha an insulting contract (2 yrs instead of the 3 that Woosha demanded) which Schwab new he would reject, paving the way for his imbecile mate to come on board. Makes my blood boil - Woosha, Fremantle man, perfect.

In the mean time WC I think had Craig as choice #1, but Craig turned them down, always wanting the Adelaide job (he only went through the job application for practice ... didn't think he was actually a contender). WC then offered Woosha a decent deal, and he said yes because he couldn't wait on Freo to come to the party ... I think Woosha wanted the Freo job because he had concerns coaching his old club with some of his old mates still playing. But he was happy to take the WC job.

With Wallace, I am pretty sure we had a deal stitched up with him a while back, but it was hush-hush and Wallace had a clause in his contract that all was to be kept quiet until offical. But some loudmouth board member or someone involved let the cat out of the bag, it came out more as an unsubstatiated rumour, but still, Wallace walked due to this reflecting unprofessionalism.

 

[Vintage]

Fonz you really know how to depress a guy don't you?

 

[malpaso]

They went after Harvey and Shaw for a reason AND Harvey especially saw something there that would get him to be a Head Coach sooner rather than later otherwise he would have stayed under Sheeds.

You would have to think that Monday morning is a great time to announce the change. 2 weeks to get the boys in a new frame of mind. Season still there to be salvaged.

 

[Powerstufff]

Changes take place over years when a team has become dysfunctional. Unwanted players have to be dropped, new recruits develop in the WAFL and so on. I think CC has done a fair job and is a good spokesman.
But like many coaches he persists with out of form players, trying to play them back into form. This sometimes works spectacularly and sometimes the opposite but also spectacularly . And like all coaches he has to deal with jarring personalities within his team whose skills get them selected, but otherwise he wouldn't bother speaking to.
CC needs two or three more years of team alterations and fine tuning, plus his own development. Look how long it has taken Neil Daniher to build Melbourne and what he has gone through in those years.

 

[ThePope]

Powerstuff, I know in Adelaide you probably don't get much news from WA, but in the past year or so, Connolly has dropped Headland, McManus, Polak, Sandilands, Black, Medhurst and Walker... probably a few more too.

And as for the Worsfold/Craig decision... the story is that Woosha interviewed very badly for both spots, and the Weagles were going to announce Craig as the coach. George got wind of it, whipped up a frenzy on Sat morning sports talkback and by Monday the Eagles had signed Woosha. Not sure exactly what the situation was with Freo and Woosha, but the public outcry forced the Eagles hand... and I don't think they would be too upset that it happened that way.

 

[yatesie]

neil craig was first choice
but now we have got woosha will we keep him thanks
try jakovich or bluey mc kenna

 

[yatesie]

neil craig was first choice at west coast
perhaps jako or bluey mc kenna
would move to the lilacs

 

[iscah]

Powerstuff, I know in Adelaide you probably don't get much news from WA, but in the past year or so, Connolly has dropped Headland, McManus, Polak, Sandilands, Black, Medhurst and Walker... probably a few more too.

And as for the Worsfold/Craig decision... the story is that Woosha interviewed very badly for both spots, and the Weagles were going to announce Craig as the coach. George got wind of it, whipped up a frenzy on Sat morning sports talkback and by Monday the Eagles had signed Woosha. Not sure exactly what the situation was with Freo and Woosha, but the public outcry forced the Eagles hand... and I don't think they would be too upset that it happened that way.

Worsfold wanted the Freo job despite being offered the WC job already (after Craig pulled out for personal reasons). Freo said they could not guarantee that Worsfold would be given the Freo job as there were three in the mix. Eventually Worsfold looked pretty disloyal to WC and WC put pressure on him to make a decision. I think it was a good 2 or 3 days that he sat there with the WC job on a plate, hoping he could take Freo's list instead.

In hindsight Worsfold being a Freo boy would have been a better choice for the job. Another reason why Schwab needs to take more responsibility for his decisions rather than saying what a great job the admin are doing and saying it is only the players that need to improve.

 

[Powerstufff]

Powerstuff, I know in Adelaide you probably don't get much news from WA.....

I feel we get enough to make an informed decision.
Freo didn't start well in the AFL, too much went wrong too soon. But now you're on track - retaining top players, attracting good assistant coaches etc. Believe me I understand the frustration of sitting watching my team make insipid efforts, we've had some beauties this year. Including against you guys.
However firstly CC is taking 3 steps forward for every two steps backward. He just has a long road to walk. There is no magic answer. The two coaches who achieved quick success in recent years, Malcom Blight and Leigh Matthews, walked into clubs ready to fire with the right person in charge. CC didn't, he has had to build that team bit by bit.

 

[spitlizard]

Surely 5 years is more then enough time to mould a team.

 

[JuddyisGod]

When is everyone's tip for Freo to pull the trigger and get rid of CC?