Possible trades

[MmkMrMackie]

Scanning through the Carlton board and I read this pearler.

3. The trading period - Here is a list of some reasonably young players from each team we should realistically look to recruit. Sorry if the players have allready re-signed:
Adelaide - Jericho Mattner Reilly Douglas
Brisbane - Moody Drummond M.Clark Harding Sherman Wood
Carlton should look to trade -Whitnall (we could get some quality young kids for him)
Collingwood - Didak (thats if he fuc*s up again) Egan
Essendon - Dyson Johns Lovett - Murry Monfries
Fremantle - Warnock Crowley M.Johnson Webster Parker
Geelong - Hunt Rooke Djkerrkura Kelly Stokes Tenace Prismall Egan
Hawthorn - Campbell Dowler Murphy Clarke Mcglynn
Kangaroos - Firrito Harding Petrie Swallow
Melbourne - Bartram Miller Rivers
Port Adelaide - Ebert Surjan White Thurstans
Richmond - Hartigan Hughes Hyde Polo Shulz
St.Kilda - Blake X.Clarke Fiora Maguire Watts
Sydney - Bevan Buchanan Dempster Grundy Mcveigh Schneider
West Coast - Butler Hansen Grahem LeCras Staker
Bulldogs - Hargrave Ray Power R.Murphy

I can't believe that they honestly think they have a chance at Rooke, Dkerrkura, Stokes or Egan? They must be so desparate these days. It wouldnt surprise me though if Hunt ended up at Carlton. I'll ask you though, apart from their two number one draft picks in Murphy and Gibbs, are there any Carlton players that we would actually contemplate taking in a trade? I can't see any.

We look pretty good at the moment depth wise, and it's glaringly obvious that it is there, with the VFL cats sitting on top as well as the AFL cats. If we thin the ranks of aging run of the mill players will it be to the detriment of the club? Surely youth needn't be a priority every year?!

Everyone seems to be screaming that we need to get rid of guys like Playfair, Tenace, Hunt etc, and that we should use Prismall as trade bait... This sort of crap is pretty common from sides that just aren't good enough, or are languishing at or near the bottom of the ladder. Given our current position though, is it really that necessary to tamper with our list to any great extent?

 

[turtlemanistic]

Not too much. Maybe one or two changes to our top 30, but the rest is pretty good. Will anyone be retiring this year or next?

 

[grantyc77]

I would say J.Hunt could be, i think we still want him. And kelly could be the other one who may find himself with Tenace and possible Prismall ( i want to keep him, the kid will be a gun) up for trade.

The dead certs up for trade are

Charlie
Henry
Big Spenc
Byrnes

If we cant trade them we will delist them at years end.

 

[DanA]

I'd hate to lose Prismall as he is the only midfeilder we have comming through that is not in our starting 22. I would rather trade out Kelly giving Prismall a spot in our best 22. I think we could if the price was right trade a back pocket, one of:

Callan, David Johnson, J.Hunt & Tenace (from most preferable to least).

All are AFL level or close too without being in our starting 22 every week so you would expect something decent for them to be on the table.

It appears that H, Spencer, Byrnes & Gardiner are never going to make our best 22 so they can be cut or traded.

That would leave me with a possible trade list of:
Kelly
DJ
J.Hunt
Tenace
Callan
Byrnes
Gardiner
Playfair
Spencer

I would not want to mess with our list too much so barring the bottom 4 players (who I think will get delisted) I would only look to trade (at most) one of the others and that's only if the price is right.

 

[passthebottle]

I like how they included Egan.
Nice try!!!

 

[CF]

Geelong - Hunt Rooke Djkerrkura Kelly Stokes Tenace Prismall Egan

I have the feeling, like most opposition supporters, the author of this post has NFI about Geelong. I mean Rooke, Egan, Stokes, & Kelly are in our best 22 while Djerrkura is a talented 1st year player and hasn't even had a chance yet at the club. Hunt, Tenace, & Prismall could hypothetically be offered as trade bait but it is far too early to call at round 14 after 11 wins for the season so far.

 

[someday-somehow]

I have the feeling, like most opposition supporters, the author of this post has NFI about Geelong. I mean Rooke, Egan, Stokes, & Kelly are in our best 22 while Djerrkura is a talented 1st year player and hasn't even had a chance yet at the club. Hunt, Tenace, & Prismall could hypothetically be offered as trade bait but it is far too early to call at round 14 after 11 wins for the season so far.

Please not these 2, we need midfield stocks and I rate prismall very highly, if we had a couple of midfield injuries this guy would be in.
Tenace I would have agreed a month or so back but he is just starting to look like he could be the goods and needs 1 more year to work on his kicking.
Kelly is busting packs and tacking fiercly so as long as he doesn't fall back into his habits of last year he should not be considered for trade.

We have a committed team that gel well together and if it ain't broke then don't fix it. These guys play for each other and like each other so let's keep the team together.

 

[The rabbi]

When talking of possible trades I think that given the position that Geelong is in they would have to be very selective about the type of player that they are seeking. While I would be quite happy if Byrnes (poor disposal) Charlie Gardinar (not Afl standard in my book) Playfair and Spencer were traded or delisted, I am also interested in who could move into the senior side from the VFL as well as the possible promotion of rookie players. What about players like Grima? I think that he has more potential than Charlie. He is similar in size and is 4 years younger. Is there anyone out there who has kept a good eye on the VFL to spot potential senior players? We just seem to turn over the same players in the VFL and they don't seem to be up to it. I.e. the afformentioned. Considering this, then when looking at trades Geelong could then be more specific in the type of player that they are seeking. This leads to the question: What would we be looking for in a trade deal?

 

[DanA]

When talking of possible trades I think that given the position that Geelong is in they would have to be very selective about the type of player that they are seeking. While I would be quite happy if Byrnes (poor disposal) Charlie Gardinar (not Afl standard in my book) Playfair and Spencer were traded or delisted, I am also interested in who could move into the senior side from the VFL as well as the possible promotion of rookie players. What about players like Grima? I think that he has more potential than Charlie. He is similar in size and is 4 years younger. Is there anyone out there who has kept a good eye on the VFL to spot potential senior players? We just seem to turn over the same players in the VFL and they don't seem to be up to it. I.e. the afformentioned. Considering this, then when looking at trades Geelong could then be more specific in the type of player that they are seeking. This leads to the question: What would we be looking for in a trade deal?

I don't think we need anything in our current 22 that is unless we could get a genuinely class player. I would rather us upgrade our draft picks and develop some players for the future.

 

[finn]

he's saying that he'd like carlton to try to recruit one or more of those players not that he thinks they're a realistic chance to do so.
if you look at the list he also includes other names from other clubs that realistically won't be taded because they're in the best 22 of that club but it would be remiss to not at least inquire as to whether those players are available.
i'm sure geelong have done the same thing in the past.
i also agree with the author that prismall and egan would be of value to any club.

 

[eliiiiza]

I would say J.Hunt could be, i think we still want him. And kelly could be the other one who may find himself with Tenace and possible Prismall ( i want to keep him, the kid will be a gun) up for trade.

The dead certs up for trade are

Charlie
Henry
Big Spenc
Byrnes

If we cant trade them we will delist them at years end.

I'd hate to sound like a broken record, but Byrnes signed a 2-year contract at the end of last year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but while there is a possibility that he can be traded, he can't be delisted, can he?

 

[Stoney]

1.) Matt Spencer, Charlie Gardiner, Henry Playfair, Tim Callan = 0 interest from other clubs.

2.) David Johnson and Shannon Byrnes = Pre Season draft pickups if we delisted them.

3.) Josh Hunt and Kane Tenace would provide considerable interest despite how much this board disrespects both. Hunt has a deadly left-foot and if used correctly could be one of the most important players in any team (in the McLeod/Goddard/Bowden quarter-back role).

Tenace has been sought after by Kevin Sheedy since he first arrived at Geelong... so if Sheeds is still coaching then look for Essendon to show a major play for him. As everyone knows - Sheeds wouldnt be put off by Tenace's lack of progression from the highly-anticipated draftee he was in 2004... when Sheeds likes a player, he is prepared to give him another chance at AFL level to prove himself in a new positive environment. Therefore we could be looking at a 3rd round pick for Tenace... or players (that we don't need/want) such as Mark/Jason Johnson.

4.) James Kelly will not be traded - he has all but answered his critics this season and has played some exceptional football. If Bomba didn't want to let him go last yr, he definitly won't be trading him this trade-period.

 

[sarah.13]

I have to disagree with you Stoney, I think Callen, Gardiner and Byrnes would all attract interest from other clubs,whether we are able to get anything in return for them is another matter.
Tenace and Hunt should both be kept for depth reasons as both are up to AFL standard even if they do struggle to get a game at Geelong.

 

[Stoney]

I said Byrnes would attract interest... but we wouldnt get anything for him, he'd get picked up in the PSD IF we delisted him.

Callen is in his 4th season and has showed that he's a good VFL player, so too was David Spriggs, Tim Finnocchairo, Scott Bamford, Simon Arnott and Adam Houlihan... but Bomber chose not to keep those guys...

Gardiner is actually someone I like (dont shoot me) but Bomber was giving him alot of lattitude and game-time for little in return. Even commentators like Robert Walls were starting to say that he isn't up to it at stages last season. Sure Walls is a tool - but they guy does know the difference between a player capable of playing AFL and one that's not.

In summing up - I will agree to disagree, although they COULD attract interest (Yet to be determined) we definitly would not get anything from other clubs trade-wise.

 

[The rabbi]

Stoney, why do you like Charlie? I find it hard to find any redeeming features in Charlies' football as an AFL player. He is a tallish forward who averages less than 0.5 goals a game. I don't think that he has much to offer at AFL level. I think that Grima may be a better option next year. I am not interested in attacking him personally, but I fail to understand why you like him.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Hunt and Tenace would probably be the first two we'd look to trade.

Playfair might get a go at another club desperate for a forward

 

[Pettas]

Charlie was BOG for the VFl playing in the backline and midfield, maybe the forward line just doesnt suit him? Mackie was average in the forward line but now is greatly improved as he is playing midfield/defence

 

[costanza23]

Carlton may be interested in Playfair, as he and Waite could alternate between CHB and CHF. Insurance for Whitnall maybe.

Wasn't there interest from Collingwood over Spencer a year or so ago? Wakelin and Prestigiacomo aren't going to be around much longer. Highly doubtful though; no one will take poor ol' Spence.

Gardiner, Byrnes and Callan - I have no idea who would take those guys. Callan is the only one who might get traded. Melbourne might take him as they too have an aging backline, but they do have some promising youngsters coming through (Petterd, Bartram, Frawley).

There probably isn't a specific player we'd be after come trade time. If we do trade, it may only be for draft picks.

 

[Stoney]

Stoney, why do you like Charlie? I find it hard to find any redeeming features in Charlies' football as an AFL player. He is a tallish forward who averages less than 0.5 goals a game. I don't think that he has much to offer at AFL level. I think that Grima may be a better option next year. I am not interested in attacking him personally, but I fail to understand why you like him.

Well having seen alot of him at both levels I can remember some good things he's done... Unfortunately he doesnt do them often enough. He has plenty of ability, just can't seem to find it at AFL level.

 

[foxdog50]

Why does everone hate Byrnes... Dont hate me but i do like him as a footballer, I think we should keep him, His only bout 22. Give him to the end of his contract which is the end of next and go from there... We do gotta have a few of those players to lye back if players get injured, you never know whats round the corner

 

[DanA]

I don't think he is hated. I just think people realise he is too wasteful in front of goal and that is not something Geelong fans are keen on after having so many bad goal kickers.

 

[Rosso]

Exactly DanA. Sides work too hard to get the ball inside 50 these days to have blokes spray easy shots at goal. Monty has been very ordinary in this area. Is a more than capable back up but sometimes you need to offer those types before their trade value dries up.

 

[bombersmad75]

Is prismall possibly a trade options he would fit in nicely at essendon.

 

[Tonycam*]

Is prismall possibly a trade options he would fit in nicely at essendon.

You can pick good talent when you see em bomber ,carnt blame you for being interested , but Pris will be in the senior side very soon for sure, unfortunately he got injured last week which has put his return back a little, But you can have Charlie Gardner instead. hows that

 

[Rosso]

Is prismall possibly a trade options he would fit in nicely at essendon.

Cats would dearly love to keep him as he looks like he's going to be more than capable at AFL level. However, if he want's more opportunities then it's up to Brent. I would suggest that his name will be bandied around by other clubs but I wouldn't think it would be in our best interests.

P.S. Posting on this board about trading Pris is going to get you into serious trouble. There's an unusual amount of man love for him around here.