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Preparation the issue at North: Dal Santo
Nick Bowen July 4, 2014 8:11 AM
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Nick Dal Santo says North must be better prepared before matches

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NORTH Melbourne believes the cure to its chronic inconsistency this year lies in improving its preparation during the week, leadership group member Nick Dal Santo says.

Dal Santo told AFL.com.au that the Roos' leadership group had tried a few different things in recent weeks to eradicate the inconsistency that has plagued North in 2014, and believed they had discovered the cause.

"We're putting it down to preparation," Dal Santo said on Thursday.

"What I believe in, and what I've been brought up through the St Kilda days of believing in, is that your preparation ultimately dictates your form come the weekend and we've just got to be better at that.

"And that's what we're putting our energy into."

At their best this year, the Roos have looked a top-four contender, beating Port Adelaide, the Sydney Swans at the SCG and Fremantle at Patersons Stadium.

But they looked flat and uninspired in their losses to Essendon, Collingwood and Adelaide, and suffered perhaps their most disappointing loss last Saturday night to the 17th-placed Brisbane Lions.

The Roos could ultimately blame their four-point loss to the Lions on a dismal second quarter, when they allowed the Lions to pile on seven goals to turn a 16-point quarter-time deficit into a 21-point half-time lead.

Dal Santo said the Roos had played without structure and discipline in that second quarter, but after a confronting review on Monday had put it behind them and were looking forward to tackling ladder-leader Hawthorn on Friday night.

As a member of the St Kilda Grand Final teams of 2009 and 2010, Dal Santo has seen what it takes for a club to perform well week-in week-out.

Asked what was the difference between those St Kilda teams and North, Dal Santo said the Saints had a more even spread of contributors in those seasons.

"I think those teams in '09 and '10 had a lot of guys who contributed every week, there weren't many passengers, if any at all," Dal Santo said.

"And at the moment we're lacking in consistency and guys' efforts within games – we're all included, the leadership group and every player that's out there each week.

"And that's our biggest challenge and that's what will define our season I guess."

Dal Santo said North's up-and-down season had taken "a bit of a toll" on the players, but they were determined to fight their way through it.

"One week you're feeling pretty happy, the next week you want to find a hole to hide in," he said.

"But that's part of the game as well and, as a whole, I think we're OK.

"It's still a great place to be, I still love coming here and training, and we train bloody hard.

"I think sometimes people forget that the group is quite young as a whole and part of understanding being a professional athlete is being able to learn through those experiences and work through them."
 
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"I think sometimes people forget that the group is quite young as a whole and part of understanding being a professional athlete is being able to learn through those experiences and work through them."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=" Between the all important milestones of 50 to 200 games experience, the Roo’s are beautifully placed with 17 players (the same as Hawthorn).
They also have the most 200 plus game players with five and they are all very good players, or better."[/QUOTE]

So which quote is true nick or dermot
 

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Preparation doesn't mean training hard for an hour or more. It means setting up training drills and preparing to the players to train under fatiguing, high intensity afl footy and replicating game scenarios.

All in all it still seems to be the same issues from last year, perhaps rectify it one week(if we are lucky)and completely forget the next. I hope the thought of missing out on finals is enough to snap them out of this
 
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"I think sometimes people forget that the group is quite young as a whole and part of understanding being a professional athlete is being able to learn through those experiences and work through them."

[QUOTE=" Between the all important milestones of 50 to 200 games experience, the Roo’s are beautifully placed with 17 players (the same as Hawthorn).
They also have the most 200 plus game players with five and they are all very good players, or better."[/QUOTE]

So which quote is true nick or dermot[/QUOTE]

They could both be true. There is a lot of difference between 50 and 200 - if one team had 15 players who'd played 50-90 games and the other had 15 players who'd played 170-200 games together, Dermie would be right about them having the "same" experience but one group would be about six years younger than the other.
 
" Between the all important milestones of 50 to 200 games experience, the Roo’s are beautifully placed with 17 players (the same as Hawthorn).
They also have the most 200 plus game players with five and they are all very good players, or better."

So which quote is true nick or dermot
They could both be true. There is a lot of difference between 50 and 200 - if one team had 15 players who'd played 50-90 games and the other had 15 players who'd played 170-200 games together, Dermie would be right about them having the "same" experience but one group would be about six years younger than the other.
I did a quick check just on players who had actually played a game this year and a further breakdown is:
North
50-100: 10
101-150: 5
151-200: 1

Poo and wee:
50-100: 8
101-150: 1
151-200: 4 [Edit: Added in Gibson (156) as I mistakenly had him in the 101-150 bracket]

Just on the 150+ bracket - two of the Hawk players are on 196/197 (Sewell/Roughead) while Birchall is 183. Our only guy in that bracket is Swallow on 153.

Both teams have 5 200+ guys by the way. Hawthorn will obviously go up to 7 in a few weeks (not that I expect anything to magically happen when that occurs). [Edit: Actually Hawthorn have 6, I missed Brian Lake]

Unless I've miscounted, I don't know who the 17th guy for us is. For the Hawks, I dunno - are Savage and Whitecross still on their list?
 
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I did a quick check just on players who had actually played a game this year and a further breakdown is:
North
50-100: 10
101-150: 5
151-200: 1

Poo and wee:
50-100: 8
101-150: 2
151-200: 3

Just on the 150+ bracket - two of the Hawk players are on 196/197 (Sewell/Roughead) while Birchall is 183. Our only guy in that bracket is Swallow on 153.

Both teams have 5 200+ guys by the way. Hawthorn will obviously go up to 7 in a few weeks (not that I expect anything to magically happen when that occurs).

Unless I've miscounted, I don't know who the 17th guy for us is. For the Hawks, I dunno - are Savage and Whitecross still on their list?
Whitecross yes, Savage no.
 
I did a quick check just on players who had actually played a game this year and a further breakdown is:
North
50-100: 10
101-150: 5
151-200: 1

Poo and wee:
50-100: 8
101-150: 1
151-200: 4 [Edit: Added in Gibson (156) as I mistakenly had him in the 101-150 bracket]

Just on the 150+ bracket - two of the Hawk players are on 196/197 (Sewell/Roughead) while Birchall is 183. Our only guy in that bracket is Swallow on 153.

Both teams have 5 200+ guys by the way. Hawthorn will obviously go up to 7 in a few weeks (not that I expect anything to magically happen when that occurs). [Edit: Actually Hawthorn have 6, I missed Brian Lake]

Unless I've miscounted, I don't know who the 17th guy for us is. For the Hawks, I dunno - are Savage and Whitecross still on their list?

Hmmm. Ok, we're a bit younger there, but no so much so as to explain why they're ripping the comp a new one most weeks, whereas we have no idea whether or not we're gonna turn up most weeks.

I think the issue is more to do with the mentality of the playing group - individually and collectively, and that mentality is not related to their collective age.
 
Hmmm. Ok, we're a bit younger there, but no so much so as to explain why they're ripping the comp a new one most weeks, whereas we have no idea whether or not we're gonna turn up most weeks.

I think the issue is more to do with the mentality of the playing group - individually and collectively, and that mentality is not related to their collective age.
No doubt, but if you look at the names of the say 150+ players it's telling. Harvey, Dal Santo and Wells are no doubt top flight classy players. Spitta is a great warrior, but perhaps a notch below. Petrie is certainly more than handy, but he is not in the cream of the crop of tall forwards. Firrito, well we all thought he was finished before this year started, but good on him for regaining form. Stil a long way from elite.

Compare with: Burgoyne, Mitchell, Hodge, Lake, Roughead. Then Lewis, Sewell, Birchall, Gibson. Finally Hale. Those 10 will take you a lot further than our 6 every day of the week.
 

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