Promoting Rookies

[Jerome]

LAST TO GO
By ANDREW CAPEL
The Advertiser, 17jun04

ADELAIDE'S longest-serving player and sole survivor of its inaugural team, Nigel Smart, is the first casualty of Adelaide's rebuilding program.

Smart, 35, yesterday announced he will play his club record 278th and final AFL game against the Western Bulldogs at AAMI Stadium on Sunday.
But while the 15th-placed Crows have vowed to "lay the foundation" for next year by blooding rookie Fergus Watts and developing promising forward Ben Rutten – both in line to play against the Bulldogs with injury doubts over Wayne Carey and Mark Stevens – they do not expect more players to retire before the season's end.

With Adelaide unable to replace retirees on its playing list, a massive cleanout will wait until September as the Crows sit out the finals for the first time in four years.

"We don't expect any more retirements," Adelaide chief executive Steven Trigg said.

The Crows have not spoken to Wayne Carey, 33, about his future, nor fellow 30-somethings Ronnie Burns and Matthew Clarke. All are in the final year of their contracts.

Carey, enjoying a fine season, has indicated he will retire while Burns, who has played just two AFL games this year, is likely to be delisted.

Clarke has been Adelaide's best ruckman and is expected to be offered a new one-year deal.

*So there you have it - unless we have some serious injuries to players and they cant play the second half of 2004 - we cannot promote rookies.With Adelaide unable to replace retirees on its playing list, a massive cleanout will wait until September as the Crows sit out the finals for the first time in four years.

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Jerome
*So there you have it - unless we have some serious injuries to players and they cant play the second half of 2004 - we cannot promote rookies.With Adelaide unable to replace retirees on its playing list, a massive cleanout will wait until September as the Crows sit out the finals for the first time in four years.

Perhaps Goodwin Hart or even Stevens will give us that opportunity

I would like to see Parker given a go in a defensive post.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Re: Re: Promoting Rookies

Originally posted by Jars458
Perhaps Goodwin Hart or even Stevens will give us that opportunity

I would like to see Parker given a go in a defensive post.

I agree Jars it would be good to get a look at Parker at AFL level before the season is out. I'm sure we can find a LT-injury player, but will it cause us salary cap problems, as I think we are close to 100% of the cap?

 

[Russian]

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
I agree Jars it would be good to get a look at Parker at AFL level before the season is out. I'm sure we can find a LT-injury player, but will it cause us salary cap problems, as I think we are close to 100% of the cap?

Doesn't affect the salary cap

11.6 In calculation of the Total Player Payments, the following payments will not be taken into account:
(e) the Football Payments made to a Rookie temporarily promoted to the Primary List of an AFL Club to replace a Player transferred to the Long Term Injury List;

“Football Payments” means in respect of a Player, any payment, consideration, advantage or other benefit directly or indirectly given or provided to, or applied for the benefit of, the Player or any Associate of the Player and which:
(a) relates in any way to, or which is connected with, the Player’s past, present or future services with a Club as a football player, or any agreement, arrangement or understanding for the Player to join a Club or to refrain from joining a Club;
(b) is so given, provided or applied by a Club, or by an Associate of a Club, unless the Player, the Club or the Associate of a Club proves to the satisfaction of the Investigations Manager that the payment, consideration, advantage or benefit was paid, given or provided to the Player, or applied for the benefit of the Player or any Associate of a Player, in consideration of bona fide employment, marketing or other services not falling within sub-paragraph (a), rendered by the Player (“Additional Services”).

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

Originally posted by Jerome

Clarke has been Adelaide's best ruckman and is expected to be offered a new one-year deal.

Lets hope so.

Out of all the veterans, he is the most crucial. We need him to stay on atleast till the end of next season, our young ruckman are just not ready.

 

[jc67]

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Originally posted by Russian
11.6

Can you post a link to the AFL rules please?

 

[Stiffy_18]

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Originally posted by Russian
Doesn't affect the salary cap

11.6 In calculation of the Total Player Payments, the following payments will not be taken into account:
(e) the Football Payments made to a Rookie temporarily promoted to the Primary List of an AFL Club to replace a Player transferred to the Long Term Injury List;

“Football Payments” means in respect of a Player, any payment, consideration, advantage or other benefit directly or indirectly given or provided to, or applied for the benefit of, the Player or any Associate of the Player and which:
(a) relates in any way to, or which is connected with, the Player’s past, present or future services with a Club as a football player, or any agreement, arrangement or understanding for the Player to join a Club or to refrain from joining a Club;
(b) is so given, provided or applied by a Club, or by an Associate of a Club, unless the Player, the Club or the Associate of a Club proves to the satisfaction of the Investigations Manager that the payment, consideration, advantage or benefit was paid, given or provided to the Player, or applied for the benefit of the Player or any Associate of a Player, in consideration of bona fide employment, marketing or other services not falling within sub-paragraph (a), rendered by the Player (“Additional Services”).

That says about Rookies that are promoted to replace player placed on long term injury list. What about if a player is promoted to fill an "empty" spot on the list. We are running a player short even before Nigel retired so can we promote a rookie to fill up that spot and how does that affect the salary cap??????

 

[macca23]

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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
That says about Rookies that are promoted to replace player placed on long term injury list. What about if a player is promoted to fill an "empty" spot on the list. We are running a player short even before Nigel retired so can we promote a rookie to fill up that spot and how does that affect the salary cap??????

Stiffy, I'm certain that the only way a rookie can be promoted to the main list is as a replacement for a long term injury, and then only for the term of the injury.

 

[Russian]

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Originally posted by jc67
Can you post a link to the AFL rules please?

Not the rules but it answers all these sort of admin questions

http://aflpa.com.au/media/CBA 2003-2008 FINAL.pdf

To promote a rookie without an LTI you have to have a space on your veterans list and nominate a player pre-season. Half of his salary is included in the cap. That's my interpretation of the rules but it's not the clearest thing I've read (14.6-14.8)

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Originally posted by Russian
Doesn't affect the salary cap

Cheers Russian. We should then look to promote Parker then as no point rushing either Goody or Benny back.