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That's how I'd sum them up. Very Punk attitude. I hope people aren't forgetting that Punk has more to do with statement of mind-as opposed to a statement of fashion/music.
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That's how I'd sum them up. Very Punk attitude. I hope people aren't forgetting that Punk has more to do with statement of mind-as opposed to a statement of fashion/music.
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yeh i'd have 2 call myself a punk actually people say i dress like one...i don't intentionally i just like they way it looks and love punk music....
best this year would definately been sum 41 as festival hall
also the melbourne based punk band for amusment only they were bloodi gr8!
best this year would definately been sum 41 as festival hall
also the melbourne based punk band for amusment only they were bloodi gr8!
Just what exactly does constitute "punk" nowadays. When a thread purporting to be representative of "punk" music has names such as Avril Lavigne, Good Charlotte, Living End etc... bandied around, then my definition of the genre is quite a deal removed from what some others must think.
I tend to be with you Milkman and Rusty ... Black Flag, Pistols, Kennedys, Rifles etc are what I'd consider to be punk, albeit from slightly differing directions. Hard edged rock, with a tinge of tongue-in-cheek humor or subversive politicising, or even wilful exploitation of the music industry that feeds them.
I tend to be with you Milkman and Rusty ... Black Flag, Pistols, Kennedys, Rifles etc are what I'd consider to be punk, albeit from slightly differing directions. Hard edged rock, with a tinge of tongue-in-cheek humor or subversive politicising, or even wilful exploitation of the music industry that feeds them.
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I used to play in the Casanovas before they became corporate sellouts
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Dictators. Celibate Rifles, Casanovas + 1 weird Japanese band on the one bill. Not bad.. not bad at all.
Dictators on the Sydney Harbour Cruise sh*ts on it though (sorry Rus!
)Dunno if one can describe the Dictators as punk though. There's so many elements, so many in-betweens.... it's all just good honest unpretentious rawk'n'roll in the end.... and they are top blokes, every one of them.
Best show ever, by a fair bit.
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While The Living End might not exactly be punk (they don't really fit into a specific genre), please do not even put them in the same breath with the "fake-punks": Avril and GC (and to a lesser extent Sum 41).
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Applause from the gallery!
Although I wouldn't call The Rifles punk (as much as I like them) more a hard rock band in the same genre as Birdman (who I also love).
i seen Lagwagon last night and that ****en rawked!
millencolin, ataris, nofx, gimmes, bodyjar, less than jake, guttermouth, unwritten law are some of my most fave bands to see live... but honeslty my list could go on and on...
the walla of my bedroom are literally covered in photos from gigs, from the mid 90s to today!
millencolin, ataris, nofx, gimmes, bodyjar, less than jake, guttermouth, unwritten law are some of my most fave bands to see live... but honeslty my list could go on and on...
the walla of my bedroom are literally covered in photos from gigs, from the mid 90s to today!
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Tatts and mohawks dont make a band "punk" (whatever "punk" is).
Good Charlotte, Sum41 and any of these other boy bands with guitars are pop. Pure and simple. They are very good at what they do, regardless of whether or not you respect what they do. But "punk" or whatever you wanna call it, they are not.
H20 are one of the best hardcore bands i've seen live. Amazing energy and so rock and roll!!
Front End Loader in their early days embraced the whole punk rock ethos, and remain one of the best live bands i've seen.
Would have killed to have seen Refused live.
Good Charlotte, Sum41 and any of these other boy bands with guitars are pop. Pure and simple. They are very good at what they do, regardless of whether or not you respect what they do. But "punk" or whatever you wanna call it, they are not.
H20 are one of the best hardcore bands i've seen live. Amazing energy and so rock and roll!!
Front End Loader in their early days embraced the whole punk rock ethos, and remain one of the best live bands i've seen.
Would have killed to have seen Refused live.
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Good call Darky. By memory, the 'tators were seen as too punk for the metal crowd and too metal for the punk crowd. As you said they're simply one of the best rock bands ever. The term punk can be pretty meaningless anyway. I've seen articles where Kiss were referred to as a punk band and in Chuck Eddy's Stairway to Hell book (top 500 metal albums of all time), the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, etc are all included.
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Along with Offspring and Blink182 etc, they are good old fashioned rockabilly, not far removed from Eddie Cochrane and Elvis Presley years before. They are a bit punkish in attitude but they are not punk.
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Other bands I've seen that totally ripped-D.R.I ('87), Killing Joke ('84), Fugazi (numerous times), Shellac, Depression, Dead Kennedy's. I totally agree that Avril, GC, Sum 41 et al are NOT Punk bands, regardless of whether or not they are competent at what they do, or how often their clips appear on VSH or MTV. Anybody who thinks that these people are Punk must have their hands permanently stuck down the front (or back) of their pants.
Saw Death By Stereo about a month back, twice... IMO probably the best punk band in the world right now. Their gig at the Black Swan (Calgary) was awesome... they should be touring Australia in early 2004, a must see live. Have seen Suicidal Tendencies a few times, though never with Rocky and Rob. 
Saw the Misfits in '97 (I think), that was awesome... although hardcore-punk, I saw Cro-Mags NYC twice at the start of the year... that ruled, the Saturday night gig was excellent, shame they didn't pull out Possessed to Skate or something like that given Rocky was playing.
Saw the Misfits in '97 (I think), that was awesome... although hardcore-punk, I saw Cro-Mags NYC twice at the start of the year... that ruled, the Saturday night gig was excellent, shame they didn't pull out Possessed to Skate or something like that given Rocky was playing.
Not that they were strictly punk but were born during the punk era, went to see The Clash at Festival Hall in Melbourne. They did a three hour set which was sensational !!
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The coolest punk bands I've ever seen are two German acts called Die Toten Hosen and Die Aerzte.
Die Toten Hosen supported the Living End a few times, then The Living End returned the favour when DTH were back in Germany.
Living End and Frenzal are probably my next favourites.
Die Toten Hosen supported the Living End a few times, then The Living End returned the favour when DTH were back in Germany.
Living End and Frenzal are probably my next favourites.
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I saw that. Did the Hard Ons support or am I thinking of The Stupids?
Yeah, Leapster ... I reckon you're probably right. Even the band name The Celibate Rifles, while not an antithesis, is obviously a kind of reverse play on words, suggesting ... er ... something about where they think they sit in comparison to the Sex Pistols.
I guess I was trying to simply fit them in with my description of what constitutes a "punk" band, and they seemd to fit that mould, philosphically at least.
On further thought, however, I reckon there's some unclassifiable element that contributes to a band really being punk. Some sort of mysterious Ingredient X, that is probably more about how they sound rather than how they are marketed.
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the living end were good this year (and their new album is cool wilco 
). strung out are amusing
damn you lucky bastards who have seen the pistols, clash, ramones etc. i was about 8 when the pistols came down under and about 4 when the ramones last came i think
). strung out are amusingdamn you lucky bastards who have seen the pistols, clash, ramones etc. i was about 8 when the pistols came down under and about 4 when the ramones last came i think
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Anyone see X on Studio 22 on tuesday night? Awesome, bloody awesome. Ian Rilen is some sort of god.
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Hard Ons from memory. Awesome gig. I went to see the Stupids also.
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I think their new album is quite alright. Just skip So What (country) and Short Notice (weird popish song) and listen to the good songs in Hold Up, The Room, What Would you Do, End of the World. Songs like One said to the other and Who's gonna save us are a bit average but pretty good live.
I don't think they've "sold out" since they were popular since their debut album and their music hasn't really changed that much.
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Where do a band like Rancid fit in this arguement? Generally seem well respected by "punk community", not a commercial entity/success, and have released six albums now. Tim Armstrong and Matt Freeman have roots in Operation Ivy, and Lars Fredrickson has been around forever. Ska punk?
...Or a band like The Butthole Surfers , who have no set field to claim as their own. Not talking about from their "Pepper" period, but stuff like "Locust Abortion Technicain" or "Widowermaker"...can 'Crazy, drug f*cked motherf*ckers' be a category? The Flaming Lips were once quoted as saying something like they were quite possibly the scariest freaks they'd ever met or toured with.
...and what about The Flaming Lips ?...with an album like "Finally the Punk Rockers are Taking Acid"...
...Or a band like The Butthole Surfers , who have no set field to claim as their own. Not talking about from their "Pepper" period, but stuff like "Locust Abortion Technicain" or "Widowermaker"...can 'Crazy, drug f*cked motherf*ckers' be a category? The Flaming Lips were once quoted as saying something like they were quite possibly the scariest freaks they'd ever met or toured with.
...and what about The Flaming Lips ?...with an album like "Finally the Punk Rockers are Taking Acid"...
