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Mofra said:
The conspiracy is a conspiracy!

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That's just what the MSQ want you to think!
 
A post on the reddit sub “qanon casualties “

Many more like it.

Sad stuff.
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I escaped the QAnon cult with kids before it had a name.

I’m very uncomfortable posting but I feel like I have to share this information somewhere. Thanks for giving me an outlet for this. It’s very hard to explain but I will try. Sorry this is so long and rambling.

I have spent the last several years getting out of a toxic marriage. I did not realize until the lockdown that the situation we were in had a name. QAnon. I now have left the marriage, have custody of our children, and are living a healthy life away from the gaslighting and dysfunction. The process was extremely difficult, both legally, financially and also trying to explain the situation. It was also a long process of extraction – not only for me but for our children. And it continues today.

It started off more than a decade ago with the normal dabbling in conspiracy theories. My ex-husband spent hours every night researching 9/11, chem trails, flat earth, and more. I wasn’t always clear about the reptilian component but now I know that it’s a big part of the story. One way conversations often surrounded the idea of a supreme power and the fact that both government and entertainment were part of the mix. Pizza Gate and the discovery of HCR’s server took it to another level. I would say at any time there were 1,000 web pages / YouTube open with ongoing research. Maybe 8-12 hours a day into the night. It was likely much more. It was the digital equivalent of one of those movies where you unveil a wall of photos and strings and newspaper clippings and realize with horror they are insane.

I now know that there is a playbook of conspiracy theories along with the mental state that accompanied it. At one point when I realized I had been in a cult, before understanding the name Q, I contacted a psychologist in Los Angeles who specializes in cult behavior. Talking to her was enlightening and empowering. It was extremely helpful to understand these patterns and the fact I was not alone. This was before the pandemic.

I won’t get into the details of the gaslighting but I didn’t understand that term either until therapy unveiled what has been happening to me. Night after night, hours at a time, often until three or four in the morning I was inundated with talk about how unstable and crazy I was. Or berated because I would not listen for hours and hours at a time. I was shown videos explaining the satanic rituals and sex cults with Hollywood’s finest. I did not want to see any of it anymore.

Then came Trump.

Midst all this craziness, and this is the extremely hard part, I will tell you – there are some videos that made me question what mainstream media was telling us. So this is the part that is so difficult to explain. When you take the time to research things individually, it is clear we do not have all the information or have been exposed to all of the details. That said, even if I did think, “hmmmmm,” at no point did I feel there was a master plan by government-led pedophiles who use pizza terms to request sexual preferences for trafficked kids and were reptilians from another dimension.

For years I felt as if this was a huge family secret and something I could not discuss with anyone. When I was finally brought in to a court setting and a court appointed family counselor I was petrified to talk about this topic. I cried and hyperventilated and was scared out of my mind that exposing this secret would wreak some kind of spiritual havoc on our lives. Not to mention the wrath of my husband if he found out. It was just something that was not done. In the end, it didn’t weigh in at all around the divorce. Whether they didn’t believe me or they didn’t understand I don’t know but having exposed the secret and having the legal system pay no heed was disheartening and left me feeling abandoned and betrayed.

Over the years our family had become more and more sheltered. My friends began to notice I was not able to leave the house or make plans except for work. I was the sole breadwinner in the house. Substance abuse became worse. Later I would find proof of stimulant addiction along with pot. All deniable and defensible of course.

Then came the rages. Uncontrollable outbursts of anger. Blaming me for anything and everything. Verbal abuse that was so shocking and cutting I cowered on the floor and had to crawl for safety. I could only hope that my neighbors could hear and might called the police. These outbursts that happened in the past but now became more frequent, weekly and then daily.

I left soon after. There were years that I was too scared to file for divorce thinking that he would find out and would rage. I feared for the children. I felt I had no recourse until I finally found support and legal help. I had no home to return to after initially leaving and I had to put a makeshift life together for several years while going through the legal process.

But we survived.

I’ll end this post now by saying that the behavior continues and has moved of course into anti-VAX an anti-Covid mentality. I’m away but still affected. Getting vaccinated for me was easy but when it came to our children it was extremely difficult and felt like betrayal. But we did it.

I’m also quite sure that my ex does not believe he is part of the QAnon cult. I think there are many layers to what QAnon represents from questioning to distrust all the way to fanaticism. There are grey areas that need to be taken into consideration. For example, vaccine hesitant is not the same as anti-vax.

This divide is an extreme one. But it is not black-and-white. I got out. But there are many, many people who are in the situation I was in and do not have the ability or support to leave. It does feel like being brainwashed. But if people are opting to stay in these relationships with those they have lost to Q, I think understanding the gray areas is a place to start.

Thanks for listening.
 

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Another reddit r/Qanon Casualties post:


Lost my wife down a Rabbit Hole

I’m a 62 year old, married 40 years and my wife has disappeared into the rabbit hole. I know this is a long story, not because it’s any more important than the other stories shared by brave souls that suffer from Q relatives, but because I just need to vent. And I’m so GRATEFUL to find a community of others suffering similarly. Until now I felt ALONE, how do I tell someone my wife thinks the Earth is flat? I hope it’s not wrong of me to share this story.

Our background is basic Christian conservative, and I still see myself as such, but in the last few years my life has become chaotic to the point I didn’t think anyone would believe it so I just tolerated the craziness in quiet despair.

My wife has always been more susceptible to believing things on the fringe, homeopathic remedies, prophesies, alt-healthcare, and a few conspiracies. But in the last few years she has fallen for just about every conspiracy theory out there! Now she believes the Earth is flat (because the Bible says so), 9-11 was a conspiracy, chem trails are poisoning us or manipulating the weather, Sandy Hook was a false flag & didn’t happen, The space shuttle Challenger didn’t happen and the crew of astronauts are still alive, NASA and space flight is fake. And the list goes on and on. She’s been largely influenced through some her family members and it seems one rabbit hole led deeper into another.

Then came the presidential election! Four years earlier we both voted Libertarian as we were not behind Trump as a candidate. Now this election, things changed, as the “Trump Train” was moving forward with the Q’s in tow behind it. When Trump lost, she would daily read me stories about how Trump really did win, and how the opposition was going to jail, and Trump was going to become the victor soon. It kept going on, and on with no regard for trying to think through the stories and issues with any critical thinking. To this day she still believes in a rigged election, and the Biden today may not be the same person from a few years ago. Man it’s crazy for me to even be putting these thoughts down.

With the onset of COVID came a whole new set of conspiracies, of which I’ll spare you, as you probably have already heard most of them. When the vaccines came along… well, you know, more crazy. That’s when she started telling me she didn’t want me to get vaccinated. She said if I got vaccinated she would pray that the Lord would take me home (that is, I would die), she would consider divorcing me if I got vaxed, etc. She again read to me internet anti vaccine articles, and told me about people that got vaccinated who came down with maladies attributed to the vaccine. She wouldn’t listen to reason as I tried to point out that the “studies” she was quoting was flawed as they were not peer reviewed, or were severely biased, and that a case history of 1 or 2 doesn’t have the weight of a well done sampling of thousands under controlled conditions.

I would at times try to gently counter what she was telling me, whether it was about chem trails, flat Earth, or a field of science that she was in denial of, and her reply would always be delivered with a serving of personal incredulity, denial, and sarcasm by belittling me, telling me “how nice it would be to be as smart as you,” and how prideful I was for thinking that I might have all the answers. She’s even thrown away my Astronomy magazines as they arrived in the mail because she doesn’t believe in space, stars, and cosmology.

Things came to a head about a week ago when I finally revealed to her that I had gotten the J&J vaccine 3 months earlier in May. Her response was like lighting a fuse on firecracker, I could see the sparks of the lit fuse, then she abruptly exploded by screaming at me to GET OUT!!! PACK YOUR BAGS AND GET OUT!! I DON’T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU!!

Well, I didn’t leave, and she is now sleeping in the guest bedroom so that I don’t “shed” the vaccine on her via touching, breathing, or kissing. She said she wouldn’t divorce me, and I could stay, pay the bills, and work around the house. She insists that I get life insurance because she’s fairly certain that I’m going to die. I feel like a leper around her & her family because they’re all Q’s and hold a grudge against me.

I really do love her and want to stay together till the day I die, just as I vowed. But these days I wonder if I can make it that far. I know the stress is affecting my health, and I often think maybe I should let her have her wish and stay away. It saddens me to see a whole life together being thrown away for the lies she believes. I’m learning to stay away from toxic relationships, I just don’t need that anymore! I’m still not sure what comes next, the uncertainty of the future scares the hell out of me. My greatest wish is that my wife would someday soon share that she’s sorry for believing in the nonsense of conspiracy theories and she didn’t realize all the harm it was doing to the world around her, broken families & lost friendships. But unfortunately that would require her to swallow her pride and admit she was wrong.
 
Shane Heard said:
A post on the reddit sub “qanon casualties “

Many more like it.

Sad stuff.
……………..


I escaped the QAnon cult with kids before it had a name.

I’m very uncomfortable posting but I feel like I have to share this information somewhere. Thanks for giving me an outlet for this. It’s very hard to explain but I will try. Sorry this is so long and rambling.

I have spent the last several years getting out of a toxic marriage. I did not realize until the lockdown that the situation we were in had a name. QAnon. I now have left the marriage, have custody of our children, and are living a healthy life away from the gaslighting and dysfunction. The process was extremely difficult, both legally, financially and also trying to explain the situation. It was also a long process of extraction – not only for me but for our children. And it continues today.

It started off more than a decade ago with the normal dabbling in conspiracy theories. My ex-husband spent hours every night researching 9/11, chem trails, flat earth, and more. I wasn’t always clear about the reptilian component but now I know that it’s a big part of the story. One way conversations often surrounded the idea of a supreme power and the fact that both government and entertainment were part of the mix. Pizza Gate and the discovery of HCR’s server took it to another level. I would say at any time there were 1,000 web pages / YouTube open with ongoing research. Maybe 8-12 hours a day into the night. It was likely much more. It was the digital equivalent of one of those movies where you unveil a wall of photos and strings and newspaper clippings and realize with horror they are insane.

I now know that there is a playbook of conspiracy theories along with the mental state that accompanied it. At one point when I realized I had been in a cult, before understanding the name Q, I contacted a psychologist in Los Angeles who specializes in cult behavior. Talking to her was enlightening and empowering. It was extremely helpful to understand these patterns and the fact I was not alone. This was before the pandemic.

I won’t get into the details of the gaslighting but I didn’t understand that term either until therapy unveiled what has been happening to me. Night after night, hours at a time, often until three or four in the morning I was inundated with talk about how unstable and crazy I was. Or berated because I would not listen for hours and hours at a time. I was shown videos explaining the satanic rituals and sex cults with Hollywood’s finest. I did not want to see any of it anymore.

Then came Trump.

Midst all this craziness, and this is the extremely hard part, I will tell you – there are some videos that made me question what mainstream media was telling us. So this is the part that is so difficult to explain. When you take the time to research things individually, it is clear we do not have all the information or have been exposed to all of the details. That said, even if I did think, “hmmmmm,” at no point did I feel there was a master plan by government-led pedophiles who use pizza terms to request sexual preferences for trafficked kids and were reptilians from another dimension.

For years I felt as if this was a huge family secret and something I could not discuss with anyone. When I was finally brought in to a court setting and a court appointed family counselor I was petrified to talk about this topic. I cried and hyperventilated and was scared out of my mind that exposing this secret would wreak some kind of spiritual havoc on our lives. Not to mention the wrath of my husband if he found out. It was just something that was not done. In the end, it didn’t weigh in at all around the divorce. Whether they didn’t believe me or they didn’t understand I don’t know but having exposed the secret and having the legal system pay no heed was disheartening and left me feeling abandoned and betrayed.

Over the years our family had become more and more sheltered. My friends began to notice I was not able to leave the house or make plans except for work. I was the sole breadwinner in the house. Substance abuse became worse. Later I would find proof of stimulant addiction along with pot. All deniable and defensible of course.

Then came the rages. Uncontrollable outbursts of anger. Blaming me for anything and everything. Verbal abuse that was so shocking and cutting I cowered on the floor and had to crawl for safety. I could only hope that my neighbors could hear and might called the police. These outbursts that happened in the past but now became more frequent, weekly and then daily.

I left soon after. There were years that I was too scared to file for divorce thinking that he would find out and would rage. I feared for the children. I felt I had no recourse until I finally found support and legal help. I had no home to return to after initially leaving and I had to put a makeshift life together for several years while going through the legal process.

But we survived.

I’ll end this post now by saying that the behavior continues and has moved of course into anti-VAX an anti-Covid mentality. I’m away but still affected. Getting vaccinated for me was easy but when it came to our children it was extremely difficult and felt like betrayal. But we did it.

I’m also quite sure that my ex does not believe he is part of the QAnon cult. I think there are many layers to what QAnon represents from questioning to distrust all the way to fanaticism. There are grey areas that need to be taken into consideration. For example, vaccine hesitant is not the same as anti-vax.

This divide is an extreme one. But it is not black-and-white. I got out. But there are many, many people who are in the situation I was in and do not have the ability or support to leave. It does feel like being brainwashed. But if people are opting to stay in these relationships with those they have lost to Q, I think understanding the gray areas is a place to start.

Thanks for listening.
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Shane Heard said:
Another reddit r/Qanon Casualties post:


Lost my wife down a Rabbit Hole

I’m a 62 year old, married 40 years and my wife has disappeared into the rabbit hole. I know this is a long story, not because it’s any more important than the other stories shared by brave souls that suffer from Q relatives, but because I just need to vent. And I’m so GRATEFUL to find a community of others suffering similarly. Until now I felt ALONE, how do I tell someone my wife thinks the Earth is flat? I hope it’s not wrong of me to share this story.

Our background is basic Christian conservative, and I still see myself as such, but in the last few years my life has become chaotic to the point I didn’t think anyone would believe it so I just tolerated the craziness in quiet despair.

My wife has always been more susceptible to believing things on the fringe, homeopathic remedies, prophesies, alt-healthcare, and a few conspiracies. But in the last few years she has fallen for just about every conspiracy theory out there! Now she believes the Earth is flat (because the Bible says so), 9-11 was a conspiracy, chem trails are poisoning us or manipulating the weather, Sandy Hook was a false flag & didn’t happen, The space shuttle Challenger didn’t happen and the crew of astronauts are still alive, NASA and space flight is fake. And the list goes on and on. She’s been largely influenced through some her family members and it seems one rabbit hole led deeper into another.

Then came the presidential election! Four years earlier we both voted Libertarian as we were not behind Trump as a candidate. Now this election, things changed, as the “Trump Train” was moving forward with the Q’s in tow behind it. When Trump lost, she would daily read me stories about how Trump really did win, and how the opposition was going to jail, and Trump was going to become the victor soon. It kept going on, and on with no regard for trying to think through the stories and issues with any critical thinking. To this day she still believes in a rigged election, and the Biden today may not be the same person from a few years ago. Man it’s crazy for me to even be putting these thoughts down.

With the onset of COVID came a whole new set of conspiracies, of which I’ll spare you, as you probably have already heard most of them. When the vaccines came along… well, you know, more crazy. That’s when she started telling me she didn’t want me to get vaccinated. She said if I got vaccinated she would pray that the Lord would take me home (that is, I would die), she would consider divorcing me if I got vaxed, etc. She again read to me internet anti vaccine articles, and told me about people that got vaccinated who came down with maladies attributed to the vaccine. She wouldn’t listen to reason as I tried to point out that the “studies” she was quoting was flawed as they were not peer reviewed, or were severely biased, and that a case history of 1 or 2 doesn’t have the weight of a well done sampling of thousands under controlled conditions.

I would at times try to gently counter what she was telling me, whether it was about chem trails, flat Earth, or a field of science that she was in denial of, and her reply would always be delivered with a serving of personal incredulity, denial, and sarcasm by belittling me, telling me “how nice it would be to be as smart as you,” and how prideful I was for thinking that I might have all the answers. She’s even thrown away my Astronomy magazines as they arrived in the mail because she doesn’t believe in space, stars, and cosmology.

Things came to a head about a week ago when I finally revealed to her that I had gotten the J&J vaccine 3 months earlier in May. Her response was like lighting a fuse on firecracker, I could see the sparks of the lit fuse, then she abruptly exploded by screaming at me to GET OUT!!! PACK YOUR BAGS AND GET OUT!! I DON’T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU!!

Well, I didn’t leave, and she is now sleeping in the guest bedroom so that I don’t “shed” the vaccine on her via touching, breathing, or kissing. She said she wouldn’t divorce me, and I could stay, pay the bills, and work around the house. She insists that I get life insurance because she’s fairly certain that I’m going to die. I feel like a leper around her & her family because they’re all Q’s and hold a grudge against me.

I really do love her and want to stay together till the day I die, just as I vowed. But these days I wonder if I can make it that far. I know the stress is affecting my health, and I often think maybe I should let her have her wish and stay away. It saddens me to see a whole life together being thrown away for the lies she believes. I’m learning to stay away from toxic relationships, I just don’t need that anymore! I’m still not sure what comes next, the uncertainty of the future scares the hell out of me. My greatest wish is that my wife would someday soon share that she’s sorry for believing in the nonsense of conspiracy theories and she didn’t realize all the harm it was doing to the world around her, broken families & lost friendships. But unfortunately that would require her to swallow her pride and admit she was wrong.
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It's quite sad to read the genuine real-world repercussions of the LARP trolling that Q-Anon is / was.

We all like to laugh at the idiocy of those who believe it, but there's very real consequences for those people and their families.
 
I would say that those people are the minority. I don't know a single person who is into conspiracies who is that deranged.
Not saying they don't exist, but they're not at all the normal conspiracist.
 
ioppolo said:
I would say that those people are the minority. I don't know a single person who is into conspiracies who is that deranged.
Not saying they don't exist, but they're not at all the normal conspiracist.
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You have to be pretty far down the rabbit hole to reach the point of flat earth and lizard people.
 
Shane Heard said:
With the onset of COVID came a whole new set of conspiracies, of which I’ll spare you, as you probably have already heard most of them. When the vaccines came along… well, you know, more crazy. That’s when she started telling me she didn’t want me to get vaccinated. She said if I got vaccinated she would pray that the Lord would take me home (that is, I would die), she would consider divorcing me if I got vaxed, etc. She again read to me internet anti vaccine articles, and told me about people that got vaccinated who came down with maladies attributed to the vaccine. She wouldn’t listen to reason as I tried to point out that the “studies” she was quoting was flawed as they were not peer reviewed, or were severely biased, and that a case history of 1 or 2 doesn’t have the weight of a well done sampling of thousands under controlled conditions.
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This reads much like the Conspiracies board Covid-19 thread.
 
ioppolo said:
I would say that those people are the minority. I don't know a single person who is into conspiracies who is that deranged.
Not saying they don't exist, but they're not at all the normal conspiracist.
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we’re talking millions of Americans who fell for it hook line and sinker. I think some smart arse had a grand old time posting that stuff as Qanon and it reached all the way into the WH with Trump surrounding himself with Qanon nut jobs.

This has all filtered through to the aggressive anti vac covid mindset and the country is paying the price for it.
 
Shane Heard said:
all that’s missing is flat earthers there lol
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Lebbo was posting recently that the US is still under Trump's control thanks to Space Force so we can't say people who have gone full Q-cumber avoid BF
 
ioppolo said:
I would say that those people are the minority. I don't know a single person who is into conspiracies who is that deranged.
Not saying they don't exist, but they're not at all the normal conspiracist.
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Not familiar with lebbo's posting I take it.

edit: Mof beat me to it.
 

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Mofra said:
Lebbo was posting recently that the US is still under Trump's control thanks to Space Force so we can't say people who have gone full Q-cumber avoid BF
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I mean technically having called dibs on space, and the Earth exists IN Space and Trump named he could claim to have full ownership of the world...

Its Trumps planet and we mere mortals are just living on it! Good thing he isnt one of the elite!
 
Lebbo73 said:
Nice troll. I don’t believe that you’re this stupid.
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I'm a crisis actor.
Now let me adjust my human mask, after a few hours it makes my scales itchy.
 
Shane Heard said:
we’re talking millions of Americans who fell for it hook line and sinker. I think some smart arse had a grand old time posting that stuff as Qanon and it reached all the way into the WH with Trump surrounding himself with Qanon nut jobs.

This has all filtered through to the aggressive anti vac covid mindset and the country is paying the price for it.
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Dunno about smart arse, more likely a psyop

Aren't you still a fence sitter on the jab?
 

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Lebbo73 said:
That’s misleading
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Clear it up then.

Maybe if you occasionally came out and just clearly stated your thoughts instead of dancing around it with a wink and a nod you could avoid these situations?

My guess is even you yourself realise the absurdity of most of those thoughts if stated clearly and out loud.
 
ioppolo said:
Dunno about smart arse, more likely a psyop

Aren't you still a fence sitter on the jab?
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yeah I’ve got a big splinter in my arse still sitting on fence

Still weighing it all up.

Even though I’m in Perth with zero cases I’m getting daily pressure from all and sundry to get a jab.

It’s interesting how quickly it’s all focused now solely on vac jab to save us all.
 
So here’s one of most disturbing ones ..

reddit r/QanonCausalties


“
Today, my mother said I want my daughter to be molested.

There isn't a word in the English lexicon for the anger I'm feeling. Seething, infuriated, rabid, frenzied. All of them fall short. My mother has fallen completely into qanon. She posts that drivel on social media 50+ times a day, every day. She's given up her business, she never does anything but doomscroll and post 20+ hours a day. She barely sleeps. I called today, out of concern. I tried to be as loving and caring as I could. I want my Damn mom back! I want the kind caring woman who raised me. Who always told me she loved me more than anything. But that woman is gone.

She got very defensive from the get go. She got angry, she went on the attack. When I mentioned I wasn't allowing my kids at her house anymore unsupervised she went ballistic. She told me how many sex crimes people live within 3 miles of my house, then she committed a sin so diabolical and terrible she will never ever ever be forgiven. She said as a Democrat I'm probably taking my child to the park to advertise her to child molesters. Because I want that to happen.

3 seconds of stunned silence. I don't know if anyone has ever uttered such a hateful thing. And to their own child no less. I unleashed every one of the most hateful things from the darkest depths of my soul. I called her every single foul thing I know and attacked every insecurity I know she has from my 30 years being a close relation. And I don't regret it. And I never will.”
 
One of lucky ones who snapped out the Trumpoid spell and back into reality..



QHusband breakthrough

I wanted to give some people some hope. My Qhusband and I have been going to counseling a few times since his brother basically had a “come to Jesus” meeting with him after a several hour car ride under false pretenses. After the storming of the capitol today, I braced myself for the worst. But he did something that surprised me.

We turned on the TV together and just watched it in silence for a long time. Not saying anything or looking at each other. He flipped between news channels. He checked his phone. He went to his computer, came back to the TV, checked his phone again... not saying anything. After the reports said that the woman that was shot at the capitol died, he got up again and went into the bedroom. I heard some rustling, opening and closing of closets and drawers. He was gone for a long time. He came back with an armload of his Trump gear, just some hats, t-shirts, and a couple books. I watched him take my kitchen scissors, and he sat on the floor and started cutting them up into ribbons. I just watched him from the couch. He took the scraps, and dumped them in the garbage, he took the bag out to the garbage can, and then I watched him from the window roll the can out to the curb.

When he came back in the house, he couldn’t look at me. But he said “I’m done. I don’t want to be part of this anymore. I’m sorry. I’ll try to be better.” I know this is a long road and I doubt that it’s actually over. But I feel really hopeful that maybe we’ve turned a corner.

Thanks to those in this group that have helped keep me sane. I don’t know why he did this or what triggered him to cut up all his Trump stuff, but I hope he isn’t going to backslide. I feel like he’s grieving. But I’ll try to be supportive while protecting myself.
 

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