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Not good.

https://www.mycause.com.au/page/141397/quentons-journey

Quent's journey so far:

On 15th July 2016, Quenton was advised of a lump located behind his kidney the size of an avocado. He took extreme holistic measures over the next three months to fight the mass and hopefully reduce its size. A second CT Scan revealed that the mass was continuing to grow.

On 25 October 2016, Quenton was admitted to Hollywood Hospital to have a minor operation to have a stent inserted in his ureter as the growth was now affecting his ability to urinate. Whilst the operation was being conducted the Urologist noticed some abnormality in the left testicle and after further ultrasounds Quenton was diagnosed with Stage 3 Testicular Cancer.

On the 28th October 2016, Quenton had another operation to remove the primary cancer. Upon recovery from this latest operation Quenton is due to commence chemotherapy to treat the stage 2 and 3 cancer within his abdomen and chest.

Although this journey will be his biggest challenge yet, he will be especially motivated by his partner Shannan and beautiful kids, Ella, Ollie and Jackson.

There is not a lot friends and family can do during this time but we all know that stress can play a key role in hindering a successful recovery. Although we don’t like to talk about it, finance is always an issue. During this time, there will be a lot of natural therapies and supplements that Quenton will be undergoing and taking during and after Chemo to get his immune system back to where it needs to be. This can be costly and is not covered under private health insurance.

I’m sure Quenton, once he has made a full recovery will be forever indebted.
 
Lach72 said:
Not good.

https://www.mycause.com.au/page/141397/quentons-journey

Quent's journey so far:

On 15th July 2016, Quenton was advised of a lump located behind his kidney the size of an avocado. He took extreme holistic measures over the next three months to fight the mass and hopefully reduce its size. A second CT Scan revealed that the mass was continuing to grow.

On 25 October 2016, Quenton was admitted to Hollywood Hospital to have a minor operation to have a stent inserted in his ureter as the growth was now affecting his ability to urinate. Whilst the operation was being conducted the Urologist noticed some abnormality in the left testicle and after further ultrasounds Quenton was diagnosed with Stage 3 Testicular Cancer.

On the 28th October 2016, Quenton had another operation to remove the primary cancer. Upon recovery from this latest operation Quenton is due to commence chemotherapy to treat the stage 2 and 3 cancer within his abdomen and chest.

Although this journey will be his biggest challenge yet, he will be especially motivated by his partner Shannan and beautiful kids, Ella, Ollie and Jackson.

There is not a lot friends and family can do during this time but we all know that stress can play a key role in hindering a successful recovery. Although we don’t like to talk about it, finance is always an issue. During this time, there will be a lot of natural therapies and supplements that Quenton will be undergoing and taking during and after Chemo to get his immune system back to where it needs to be. This can be costly and is not covered under private health insurance.

I’m sure Quenton, once he has made a full recovery will be forever indebted.
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Horrible horrible news, hopping for the best possible outcome.
 

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peppy la pew said:
Good luck Quenton..................
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We should all chuck in a fiver just for that moment - and he'll reach his target.

Remember listening to it on the radio, during the only year of the bad old days we actually had a chance at making finals.
 
Always liked his straight at it style;raised over $13,000 already.
Plenty of good will headed his way.
 
G Mus said:
The snake oil peddlers and promoters of "holistic medicine" are no better than murderers in my opinion, hope it's not too late for him to have successful treatment, horrible news :thumbsdown:
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I have them about level with Life Coaches. Both horribly dangerous at what they do.

Hope he pulls through.
 
G Mus said:
The snake oil peddlers and promoters of "holistic medicine" are no better than murderers in my opinion, hope it's not too late for him to have successful treatment, horrible news :thumbsdown:
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Exactamundo. Steve Jobs would still be alive if he hadn't listened to these charlatans. Leach gave himself way less chance of survival by trying "holistic medicine" first. Giving cancer a 3 month head start is not the best idea.

I hope he recovers, and that the Naturopaths and Snake Oil salesman that advised him go to jail.

There's a reason that "natural remedies" and "supplements" aren't covered under medical insurance. They aren't medicine. They are placebos.
 
I think Quenton Leach was the first person to wear a Fremantle FC uniform in public. Before anyone was signed, he wore the uniform at the launch. He was a young Claremont player then.
Can anyone confirm?

ydraw said:
There's a reason that "natural remedies" and "supplements" aren't covered under medical insurance. They aren't medicine. They are placebos.
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The placebo effect is real. There have been studies that show that, even if a patient knows they are receiving the placebo, it still has a positive effect on recovery. Positive thinking and witch doctors can all help.
Of course, it's best to get the cheapest placebos possible, and supplement with other effective treatments.

Good luck to Quenton and I hope he recovers quickly.
 

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Clems Knee said:
I think Quenton Leach was the first person to wear a Fremantle FC uniform in public. Before anyone was signed, he wore the uniform at the launch. He was a young Claremont player then.
Can anyone confirm?
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Yeah he was. Neesham picked him at a training session. Probably cause he was gonna be a lock for the inaugural squad and was better looking than the other dudes we had.

He's gone down as the first player to put on the jumper and the first to kick a goal after the siren.

As a kid he was my favorite player along with wills and waterhouse. I remember we played brisbane in South Africa during the pre season one year and he was the only one showing any heart at all.Hope he pulls through for his family and obviously for himself.
 
Clems Knee said:
The placebo effect is real. There have been studies that show that, even if a patient knows they are receiving the placebo, it still has a positive effect on recovery. Positive thinking and witch doctors can all help.
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With recovery from a minor illness? Maybe. With reversing the course of a cancerous tumour? Just no. And these morons don't recommend their rubbish treatments in addition to actual medical treatment, they actively promote them as an alternative.
 
ydraw said:
With recovery from a minor illness? Maybe. With reversing the course of a cancerous tumour? Just no. And these morons don't recommend their rubbish treatments in addition to actual medical treatment, they actively promote them as an alternative.
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Ive been down the C track and followed everything religiously that the oncologists told me. I'm still around to tell the story.. I'm with you ,medical science and the best of the specialist treatment available is the only way to go.
 
While not as aggresive as what Quenton has got, I know close family members who have beaten tumours on the kidney without any chemo or radiation therapy - just living clean and cutting out a lot of processed foods, most animal products etc.

Like I said - not an aggressive tumour, but was beaten without any treatment from the hospitals/docs. Eventually it shrunk and they did a biopsy on it and found it wasn't aggressive, but they didn't know at the time of diagnosis how aggressive or otherwise it would be (they did think it would likely not be that aggressive, however)

Chemo and Radiation thereapy are horrible ordeals to go through and yes, they do treat the cancer cells, but they **** everything else up in the process. I'm not saying don't go down the path of chemo/radiation, but don't discount the power of living cleanly either
 

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im_a_lazy_sod said:
While not as aggresive as what Quenton has got, I know close family members who have beaten tumours on the kidney without any chemo or radiation therapy - just living clean and cutting out a lot of processed foods, most animal products etc.

Like I said - not an aggressive tumour, but was beaten without any treatment from the hospitals/docs. Eventually it shrunk and they did a biopsy on it and found it wasn't aggressive, but they didn't know at the time of diagnosis how aggressive or otherwise it would be (they did think it would likely not be that aggressive, however)

Chemo and Radiation thereapy are horrible ordeals to go through and yes, they do treat the cancer cells, but they **** everything else up in the process. I'm not saying don't go down the path of chemo/radiation, but don't discount the power of living cleanly either
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There are a lot of different kinds of tumour - some metastatic, some not. Metastatic tumours are invariably deadly regardless of clean living. Even benign tumours can be deadly depending on the organ they affect, but most often aren't. It sounds like your family member had a benign tumour, Leach's tumour(s) are the opposite.

Chemo and radiation are horrible but they are better than the alternative, which is dying of cancer. Death is never pretty but late stage cancer patients have the life slowly stripped from them until there is nothing left. Awful disease.

If you or a loved one ever receives a cancer diagnosis go with modern medicine. Its treatments may sometimes be brutal, but they have a proven effect at prolonging life, and may forestall death until a more successful treatment comes along. You may even end up being one of the lucky ones completely free of cancer.
 
I wasn't advocating using alternative treatments instead of chemo, radiation or other clinically trialled treatments.

I was suggesting that in addition to these treatments, there is no harm (and a lot to be gained) in some of the natural therapies - remove some foods, avoid processed foods, get off the piss, build up antioxidants, meditate, take Apple cider vinegar, that kind of stuff. Even if it's just a placebo effect, it is worth getting - call it faith healing if you like.

I take ydraw's point that some charlatans do more damage than good by promoting their untested therapies instead of clinically tested (and verified) treatments. Which is why I qualified the statement to make sure the chosen "placebo" wasn't expensive, and was only taken in addition to real treatment.

salim malik said:
Ive been down the C track and followed everything religiously that the oncologists told me. I'm still around to tell the story.. I'm with you ,medical science and the best of the specialist treatment available is the only way to go.
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I'm glad you came through. I've known too many people who haven't made it, despite doing everything their medical specialists told them. Knowing you a little, you seem to have a very positive attitude on life. I'm sure that helps too. Some of my friends didn't have that positive outlook before they were diagnosed, and didn't survive, despite their best efforts.
I think the mechanism isn't clear - possibly something to do with cortisol levels - but there is growing evidence that optimism has very real rewards.
 
Clems Knee said:
I wasn't advocating using alternative treatments instead of chemo, radiation or other clinically trialled treatments.

I was suggesting that in addition to these treatments, there is no harm (and a lot to be gained) in some of the natural therapies - remove some foods, avoid processed foods, get off the piss, build up antioxidants, meditate, take Apple cider vinegar, that kind of stuff. Even if it's just a placebo effect, it is worth getting - call it faith healing if you like.

I take ydraw's point that some charlatans do more damage than good by promoting their untested therapies instead of clinically tested (and verified) treatments. Which is why I qualified the statement to make sure the chosen "placebo" wasn't expensive, and was only taken in addition to real treatment.



I'm glad you came through. I've known too many people who haven't made it, despite doing everything their medical specialists told them. Knowing you a little, you seem to have a very positive attitude on life. I'm sure that helps too. Some of my friends didn't have that positive outlook before they were diagnosed, and didn't survive, despite their best efforts.
I think the mechanism isn't clear - possibly something to do with cortisol levels - but there is growing evidence that optimism has very real rewards.
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Nothing wrong with doing everything you can to try to increase your survival, the problem is there is a lot of misinformation about the efficacy of conventional treatments. The reality is that cancer is extraordinarily difficult to beat.

Is there actually growing evidence that optimism has real rewards?
 
Clems Knee said:
I wasn't advocating using alternative treatments instead of chemo, radiation or other clinically trialled treatments.

I was suggesting that in addition to these treatments, there is no harm (and a lot to be gained) in some of the natural therapies - remove some foods, avoid processed foods, get off the piss, build up antioxidants, meditate, take Apple cider vinegar, that kind of stuff. Even if it's just a placebo effect, it is worth getting - call it faith healing if you like.

I take ydraw's point that some charlatans do more damage than good by promoting their untested therapies instead of clinically tested (and verified) treatments. Which is why I qualified the statement to make sure the chosen "placebo" wasn't expensive, and was only taken in addition to real treatment.



I'm glad you came through. I've known too many people who haven't made it, despite doing everything their medical specialists told them. Knowing you a little, you seem to have a very positive attitude on life. I'm sure that helps too. Some of my friends didn't have that positive outlook before they were diagnosed, and didn't survive, despite their best efforts.
I think the mechanism isn't clear - possibly something to do with cortisol levels - but there is growing evidence that optimism has very real rewards.
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Even if some of the new age stuff is a bit of a placebo, never underestimate the power of the human mind. And I agree with you - there is absolutely no harm in trying a more natural approach, as long as you're doing so with the help and guidance of your doctor/medical professional. Also once medicinal marijuana starts being prescribed more, I expect to see it have a very positive effect on a lot of conditions that many people have
 

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