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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about Wallace

Originally posted by jc67
He practises the play for youre paycheck intead of for the team,club,supporters or your pride.
He quit the dogs when things got tough (Smorgon was always gunna pay him but see point1)
He's a typical Victorian know all prick.
His *innovative gameplan* was stolen from Mick Nunan (wonder if He's an option)
But most of all I simply dont trust him He looks shifty.

PS; I avoided posting this as I am now gunna cop it left and right.
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Re your last comment - rightly so!!:p

Wallace gave his heart and soul to the Bulldogs and was not paid his wages for MONTHS!!! He only got paid by going to the media about it, and then Smorgon lied and saod that it was an admin error - my arse it was. They had no bloody money.

Would you keep working for MONTHS without getting paid??? Bull**** you would!!

To criticize him for being Victorian is ridiculous. He probably does know a lot, and I have never heard of any reason why he should be called a prick.

His game plan varied week by week so he must have stolen many of thtm from Mick Nunan then.

He might think that you look shifty too!! :p
 
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Jonas has been a senior coach, coach juniors & learnt from both Blight & Roos. IMO, gives him equal experience as an assistant to O'Donnell (under Sheedy & Matthews) & more experience than McKenna (who has only been under Malthouse).
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Or as I said, very little to nothing. ;)

The thing that I think will count against him is that there was some degree of negativity about certain aspects of his coaching time with Centrals, and being a local team, the AFC hierarchy would be aware of that.
 
Personally, I like Wallace's demeanor, his mood, the way he presents himself and speaks in public and to the media (notwithstanding his strained voice). His persona is one of his strongest points IMO. He also seems like an intelligent man, highly respected (except by jc67 and a few others), able to succeed at various professions, in basically anything he sets his mind to.

I wouldn't rule him out based on his personal qualities.
 
Originally posted by ant
Personally, I like Wallace's demeanor, his mood, the way he presents himself and speaks in public and to the media (notwithstanding his strained voice). His persona is one of his strongest points IMO. He also seems like an intelligent man, highly respected (except by jc67 and a few others), able to succeed at various professions, in basically anything he sets his mind to.

I wouldn't rule him out based on his personal qualities.
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I agree with you ant. He comes across very well - just a pity about his voice!
 

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Round 22 1998, I went to see North v Bulldogs fight it out on a Friday night at the MCG in front of 70,000 people for the minor premiership. It was at the zenith of North's might, and the Wallace-led Bulldogs contributed to a fantastic game of football. This was a Bulldogs side with James Cook(!) in it. If Wallace can get that much out of that squad, then he must have something going fo him.
 
Originally posted by macca23
While it is a perception rather than a fact, history has shown with those coaches who do coach 2nd time round that they learn a lot from their previous stint and by observation during the break.

Wallace is an intelligent thinking man and there's no reason to think that he won't have learnt either.

Most of what all posters post on here is their perception and not fact.
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absolutely.

you also have to remember not all coaches are better the 2nd time, as you have to show something the first time to be considered for a 2nd gig.

Damien Drum will not get another gig, but Terry Wallace will.
this is not a random act of arbitrary chance.
despite what some numpties would have you believe.
 
Originally posted by ant
Personally, I like Wallace's demeanor, his mood, the way he presents himself and speaks in public and to the media (notwithstanding his strained voice). His persona is one of his strongest points IMO. He also seems like an intelligent man, highly respected (except by jc67 and a few others), able to succeed at various professions, in basically anything he sets his mind to.

I wouldn't rule him out based on his personal qualities.
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I have respect for him as I have respect for you or any human being, I dont have fox so I dont see as much of him as some.
And if he does get the gig I will be a supporter just as I was with Ayres (only a few angry words after poor coaching cost us).
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
But you can build an argument based on that on any other coach out there.
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yes you're right you can build an argument for anyone like this;
but you can't make the market take any notice.

the market is paying close attention to the merits of Terry Wallace, not anyone who might be notionally championed on here.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about Wallace

Originally posted by jc67
He practises the play for youre paycheck intead of for the team,club,supporters or your pride.
He quit the dogs when things got tough (Smorgon was always gunna pay him but see point1)
He's a typical Victorian know all prick.
His *innovative gameplan* was stolen from Mick Nunan (wonder if He's an option)
But most of all I simply dont trust him He looks shifty.

PS; I avoided posting this as I am now gunna cop it left and right.
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except almost none of this is true, but hey...
 
Originally posted by jc67
I have respect for him as I have respect for you or any human being, I dont have fox so I dont see as much of him as some.
And if he does get the gig I will be a supporter just as I was with Ayres (only a few angry words after poor coaching cost us).
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I'm glad to hear that. As I will support whoever actually gets the job.

I was just making a comment on your perception of Wallace and some of his personal qualities.

Overall, I think he hasn't done too much wrong (if anything at all, this is a business). You disagree and fair enough, that's your perogative.
 

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Question about Wallace

Originally posted by Crow-mosone
who said not true, not accurate, not right is a lie. what a simple outlook on life, you must be forrest gump.
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Hey don't knock forrest!
He taught Elvis how to dance.
 
Originally posted by macca23
The true answer is very little to nothing. It comes back to perception again. Jonas is regarded as good with the development of youngsters, but there were aspects of his coaching at Centrals that even they didn't like, and that will probably count against him.

He would be a real chance and a good choice for the role of development coach, but not the main gig.

The media talk O'Donnell up as a future AFL coach because he has played under one of the greatest coaches of all time, and been assistant to one of the most successful. I agree that proves nothing other than that he has a good pedigree. Whether he can do it is the gamble.

The same applies to McKenna but on a lesser scale, as he has learnt all of his footy from Malthouse basically. Still a gamble.

Both appear to be intelligent men.

Craig's only claim to fame IMO is that he's been part of our system and knows it. On the other hand that could count against him.
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1. In regards to Jonas - what are the problems with his time at CDFC?

They've just named him as a club legend and as one of their best ever coaches in their 40 year almanac.

I'll grant you people were'nt happy that we finished 7th in 1999. He was in strife with the fans- the McAdam/Platten experiment was a failure and he did a mini clean out the list at the end of 99.

Yet within 12 months the club went from 7th to 1st. I think the only other SANFL coach to come close to that feat was Kerley with South in the 60's.

More importantly, the CDFC have remained a force since he left, which shows how good a job he did in developing a strong list and a tough, winning mentality within the players.

I know its SANFL level, but at least he has shown he can coach. Which is more than I can say for some of the other assistiants waiting to have a go .

2. I agree with your point on O'Donnell. Did'nt we recruit Mick Taylor as an assistaint because he worked with Matthews? He has'nt exactly gone on to better things IMO.

3. McKenna has had some coaching experience in the WAFL I think. however my main concern with him would be that he's a defender. I this is just a guess on my part, but the impression i have is that he may have a very defensive approach to his footy - which is exactly what we don't need. It could be more of the same.

4. I agree with your comments on Craig. He must go, he's been there too long.

Clearly with me, Jonas is a favourite. I said last year that I was keen on this guy as Coach and I'm prepared to stick by it.

However, I do realise that the clubs prefernce would probably be 1. Wallace, 2. Craig and 3.Jonas. That could well be the pecking order. we'll see in October I guess...I just hope 1 and 2 manage to stuff it up for themelves. he he
 
Originally posted by macca23


So there you have it Stiffy

Wallace

Eade

O'Donnell

McKenna

Craig

IMO that's all there is to consider
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Just listening to David Parkin on Talking Footy.

His opinion is that Adelaide should appoint an experienced coach and that it should be either Eade or Wallace - he thinks either are ideally suited to Adelaide.

He does say that by getting Craig to audition for the role, they could well miss out on the right man for the job because other clubs could dive on these 2 before them.

Apparently Ayres resignation has panicked Port Adelaide who will resign Choco within a week.
 
Originally posted by macca23
Apparently Ayres resignation has panicked Port Adelaide who will resign Choco within a week.
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Geez, it didn't take long for the Rucci propaganda of Choco to the Crows to take affect...
 
Port aren't going to bloody well retire Choco.

Did they SAY that on Talking Footy?

Because firing a coach at 9-4 is NOT going to be accepted...that's the complete inverse of our situation!
 

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Originally posted by macca23
Just listening to David Parkin on Talking Footy.

His opinion is that Adelaide should appoint an experienced coach and that it should be either Eade or Wallace - he thinks either are ideally suited to Adelaide.

He does say that by getting Craig to audition for the role, they could well miss out on the right man for the job because other clubs could dive on these 2 before them.

Apparently Ayres resignation has panicked Port Adelaide who will resign Choco within a week.
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I listened to that myself and it would appear that the circumstances of yesterday have created somewhat of a domino effect. Apparently Essendon were not prepared to offer Sheedy 3 year deal that he wanted. Now they are prepared to do that and Sheedy is expected to sign sometime this week. Apparently Port have also stepped up their process of offering Williams contract extension.

I don't think having Craig as a caretaker coach damages our chances in getting Wallace. Trigg made the point that we will be starting to look for a new coach ASAP but the announcement will not come until the end of the season because some of the candidates might still be involved with their AFL clubs. Wallace and Eade are out of coaching caper so I would suggest that AFC would be talking to those 2 ASAP if they haven't already.

Apparently Eade flew into Adelaide today and Wallace will be in town over the weekend for the "state of origin" game for McGuiness McDermott Foundation.
 
Originally posted by spindoctor
Port aren't going to bloody well retire Choco.

Did they SAY that on Talking Footy?

Because firing a coach at 9-4 is NOT going to be accepted...that's the complete inverse of our situation!
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Choco's current contract finishes this year.
Choco keen for an extension.
Rucci keen for an extension of Choco's contract.
Rucci (propoganda) claims Crows now interested in Choco, immedicately after Ayres dismissal.
Port (apparantly about to) offer Choco an extension or "risk losing him to the crows (like that would ever happen!)".
 
Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Choco's current contract finishes this year.
Choco keen for an extension.
Rucci keen for an extension of Choco's contract.
Rucci (propoganda) claims Crows now interested in Choco, immedicately after Ayres dismissal.
Port (apparantly about to) offer Choco an extension or "risk losing him to the crows (like that would ever happen!)".
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Ah...I read what he wrote as 'resign' (as in retire) Choco, not 're-sign' (as in extend contract) of Choco...can get confusing...that's why I write a contract extension as re-sign rather than resign.
 
Originally posted by spindoctor
Ah...I read what he wrote as 'resign' (as in retire) Choco, not 're-sign' (as in extend contract) of Choco...can get confusing...that's why I write a contract extension as re-sign rather than resign.
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The English language can be an ass sometimes!
 

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