Quinn to pursue new opportunities

[Merv]

Food for thought (Part 1)

Everyone believes the horror stories....some of you would be surprised by the facts...These stats are only till round 11 this year (and only include hammy injuries sustained throughout the season proper). It shows, for all the carry on, that we dont have a soft-tissue crisis at EFC. In fact, we're quite well placed.

Hamstring injuries to round 11 (in season)

Adelaide 13
Brisbane 13
Carlton 4
Collingwood 0
Essendon 4
Fremantle 3
Geelong 2
Hawthorn 7
Melbourne 3
Nth Melb 1
Port Adel 2
Richmond 3
St.Kilda 5
Sydney 8
West Coast 2
W'Bulldogs 3

Where did those stats come from and could you provide a link?

Most of the criticism has been about soft tissue injuries, not just Hamstrings.

A full year, including pre season is required to make a valid assessment.

I have my doubts about those figures.

 

[The Dustbin]

Where did those stats come from and could you provide a link?

Most of the criticism has been about soft tissue injuries.

A full year, including pre season is required to make a valid assessment.

I have my doubts about those figures.

Me too.

Can think of more then 4... Jetta, Gumby, Lonergan, McVeigh, Myers and Dempsey all did their hammy's before round 11.

On this occasion, the stats do lie.

 

[Jesse Custer]

While our last few years has been ordinary from an injury point of view, we need to give the guy credit for getting Hird up in 2000 when his career was all but over.

Spot on, whilst its probably a good move his on his way out, i will never forget him for saving Hirdy in 99. Thanks Quinny, best of luck in your new job.

 

[stander]

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I have my doubts about those figures.

It must be the Windy Hill virus playing tricks again.

 

[SirJimi05]

Bout Time Quinn Was Sacked!!!!!!

 

[JBomber]

Where did those stats come from and could you provide a link?

Most of the criticism has been about soft tissue injuries, not just Hamstrings.

A full year, including pre season is required to make a valid assessment.

I have my doubts about those figures.

These stats are from Champion Data - so go ahead an doubt them all you want. I can understand why you wouldn't want to believe it as it doesn't really help your argument to.

 

[JBomber]

And because you asked so nicely...here are the soft tissue injuries for the same time. Enjoy!

Adelaide 15
Brisbane 22
Carlton 7
Collingwood 2
Essendon 8
Fremantle 7
Geelong 6
Hawthorn 8
Melbourne 7
Nth Melb 4
Port Adel 7
Richmond 3
StKilda 8
Sydney 11
West Coast 8
W'Bulldogs 4

 

[Merv]

These stats are from Champion Data - so go ahead an doubt them all you want. I can understand why you wouldn't want to believe it as it doesn't really help your argument to.

It has nothing to do with helping my argument, those stats are just wrong imo.

 

[Merv]

And because you asked so nicely...here are the soft tissue injuries for the same time. Enjoy!

Adelaide 15
Brisbane 22
Carlton 7
Collingwood 2
Essendon 8
Fremantle 7
Geelong 6
Hawthorn 8
Melbourne 7
Nth Melb 4
Port Adel 7
Richmond 3
StKilda 8
Sydney 11
West Coast 8
W'Bulldogs 4

I believe stander summed it perfectly, "It must be the Windy Hill virus playing tricks again"

Can you provide a link to those stats?

 

[Spikey]

Taken from Koala's post on BB. All the soft tissue related injuires. This year. Hammies,Groins,Calfs and Quads are all in here. And OP too.


Bellchambers, Tom
2008 pre-season - hamstring

Dempsey, Courtenay
2008 - hamstring (Round 2).

Fletcher, Dustin
2008- groin (Round 6)

Gumbleton, Scott
2008 pre-season - hamstring x 2

Hislop, Tom
2008 - groin (Round 14)

Hocking, Heath
2008 - adductor release for OP (Round 4), calf (Round 15)
2008 pre-season - groin (OP)

Houli, Bachar
2008 - groin (OP?) (Round 12)

Jetta, Leroy
2008 -hamstring (Round 3), hamstring tightness (Round 10)

Johns, Courtney
2008 - quad (Round 2)

Johnson, Jason
2008 - calf (Round 9)

Lee, Andrew
2008 pre-season - calf

Lloyd, Matthew
2008 - calf (Round 4), calf (Round 12)
2008 pre-season - hamstring

Lonergan, Sam
2008 - hamstring (Round 4)

Lovett-Murray, Nathan
2008 -groin (Round 2)

McPhee, Adam
2008 pre-season - hamstring

McVeigh, Mark
2008 - hamstring (Round 4)

Michael, Mal
2008 pre-season - hamstring tightness

Myers, David
2008 - hamstring (Round 1)
2008 pre-season - hamstring twinge

Watson, Jobe
2008 pre-season - quad

Welsh, Andrew
2008 pre-season - hamstring

Winderlich, Jason
2008 - groin (Round 7)

 

[ant555]

I believe stander summed it perfectly, "It must be the Windy Hill virus playing tricks again"

Can you provide a link to those stats?

There are no links to the champion data stats. They are only available to direct clients. Anyone who works for the HS would be able to see them or anyone who is working for an AFL Club or one of their other clients.
Members of the public dont get acess to them other than what you can read in the HS and what comes out in the prospectus each year.
The stats would not be far off. They don't include pre season injury though. They are only the injury stats recorded during the season .
Pretty sure they do not include groin injuries as soft tissue injuries as well.

 

[ant555]

Taken from Koala's post on BB. All the soft tissue related injuires. This year. Hammies,Groins,Calfs and Quads are all in here. And OP too.


Bellchambers, Tom
2008 pre-season - hamstring

Dempsey, Courtenay
2008 - hamstring (Round 2).

Fletcher, Dustin
2008- groin (Round 6)

Gumbleton, Scott
2008 pre-season - hamstring x 2

Hislop, Tom
2008 - groin (Round 14)

Hocking, Heath
2008 - adductor release for OP (Round 4), calf (Round 15)
2008 pre-season - groin (OP)

Houli, Bachar
2008 - groin (OP?) (Round 12)

Jetta, Leroy
2008 -hamstring (Round 3), hamstring tightness (Round 10)

Johns, Courtney
2008 - quad (Round 2)

Johnson, Jason
2008 - calf (Round 9)

Lee, Andrew
2008 pre-season - calf

Lloyd, Matthew
2008 - calf (Round 4), calf (Round 12)
2008 pre-season - hamstring

Lonergan, Sam
2008 - hamstring (Round 4)

Lovett-Murray, Nathan
2008 -groin (Round 2)

McPhee, Adam
2008 pre-season - hamstring

McVeigh, Mark
2008 - hamstring (Round 4)

Michael, Mal
2008 pre-season - hamstring tightness

Myers, David
2008 - hamstring (Round 1)
2008 pre-season - hamstring twinge

Watson, Jobe
2008 pre-season - quad

Welsh, Andrew
2008 pre-season - hamstring

Winderlich, Jason
2008 - groin (Round 7)

With hamstring tightness this is actually one area that the club should be commended on.
All the players listed with hammy tightness have been told to stop training straight away or if it is after a game they are not rushed back into training. The result is we have actually avoided a few more serious injuries in this area becasue players are not being pushed through the little niggles.

 

[ant555]

Just a little something for you all to ponder. Quinns job is obviously fitness but how do you guys look at his role as the fitness coach ?
In real terms he is basicly like a horse trainer. He is not the doctor or physio. He is in charge of fitness and the programs set up to train the players throughout the year.
Now if he is to be guided by the medical staff, physios and players honesty as to how their program or injury is going how is it his fault it the information he may be given is not 100% correct. ?
I think a few of you seem to have the fitness program and medical issues wound into each other a bit too much