B-Sides Rate a guitarist thread - Jimmy Page

[materamagic]

Needs no introduction.

Top 5 guitar performances on record?
What you like about his style?
How highly do you rate him as a guitarist?

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[FIGJAM]

Superstar of the highest order!

I think his crowning achievement was the most underrated album of all time; Houses of the Holy.

People bang on all day about Led Zep II, IV and Physical Graffiti, but Houses of the Holy is undoubtedly the peak of the Great Ones IMO.

Bonzo's drumming, JPJ's all-round musicianship and even Plant's vocals are at their absolute peak for this album and Jimmy still shines through like the legend that he is!

 

[mansize rooster]

ahh cool jimmy page,i know alot more zeppelin than stones so im qualified to respond to this thread

top 5
kashmir riff : the greatest most powerfull rock riff..EVER

heartbreaker solo : ahhh always gives my chills,all jimmy no backing

you shook me : great buesy feel,love the way he mimicks plant with the guitar..its like a voice in its own right

ramble on : that crazy slide bit,its so unexpected that it works so well.catchies bit in the song is that great guitar line.simple but pure genius. That whole song infact is pure genius..those crunchy acustic chords to start,then on the crunchy electric power chords with that lil run.. ahhh im gonna put that sucker on now

stairway to hevan : i know its obvious..speaks for itself realy

What you like about his style?
His roots are blues,so ya get those top bluesy guitar tones and licks.He can be delicate and mean,often in the same song. very versatile..12 string acustic,shreding,finger picking..the lot realy.

How highly do you rate him as a guitarist?
Pretty damn high cause of all those reasons stated above,a real legend and massive influence on rock n roll

9/10

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Brilliant,
innovative,
still kept his blues roots
(though he did steal a couple of Jeff Beck riffs,
though i call it an homage)

In no order

Kashmir
Ten Years Gone
Since i've been loving you
Black Dog
In My Time of Dying
The Song Remains the Same (HoH song)
Travelling Riverside Blues
Going to California
Tangerine
Trampled underfoot.
and the other usual suspects

 

[Papa G]

Brilliant,
innovative,
still kept his blues roots
(though he did steal a couple of Jeff Beck riffs,
though i call it an homage)

In no order

Kashmir
Ten Years Gone
Since i've been loving you
Black Dog
In My Time of Dying
The Song Remains the Same (HoH song)
Travelling Riverside Blues
Going to California
Tangerine
Trampled underfoot.
and the other usual suspects

Although not written by Page and a fairly simple piece, the intro to "Bring it On home" always gets me going.

 

[FIGJAM]

And Bron Yr Aur.

Pure Page. Pure perfection.

 

[smasha]

Page
Not technically perfect but his sound and songwriting are amazing.

Greatest band after the Beatles imho.

 

[materamagic]

Re: Rate a guitarist thread - George Harrison

Now I know that most people would view the Beatles as arguably the greatest music group of all time, but alot of componants that made the legend often get overlooked, one of them the guitar playing of Mr Harrison. His guitar playing was even better throughout his solo career.

1: What are his best 5 performances on record?

2: What do you think/like about his style? Which style was his best?

3: Do you rate him and why? Out of 10


I have time to give my views.


1: Best 5 performances in no order............

Guitar playing on Abbey Road. Something and Here Comes The Sun. also Particularly on side 2 medleys, some of his most creative playing

The Let It Be solo

His meancing slide guitar on Lennons Imagine album, particularly Gimme Some Truth and How Do You Sleep

Later career works such Free As A Bird and Real Love and his Brainwashed songs, his fills and slide solos add so much feeling to the songs.

His impromptu ukelele performance (and solo) at the Uke Convention in the 90's. Not many have heard this but its an Old George Formby song and is somewhere on the net.


2: The thing I liked about his playing is that in any song, he always inserted his guitar work based on what the song needed, never showing off, making each note integral to the sound. He was versatile (dobro, uke, banjo, sitar, acoustic and electric, mandolin) but I really rated him as a slide guitarist of the highest order on par with Allman and Mick Jones. He played a eload of slide and its his signature style really, one can't make an assessment as to how adept he was playing slide until you have heard a bulk of his solo recordings. Eric Clapton was name dropping him as the best exponant of the slide nearly 20 years ago.

3: Maybe not the greatest ever guitarist but should be rated in at least the top 10 regardless of the fact that most people gained an appreciation of his playing and interest in his career became more prevelant following his untimely death.

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[materamagic]

Re: Rate a guitarist thread - George Harrison

sorry for the last post, i started the new rate a guitarist thread forgetting to get out of Pages thread. comment on george in his own thread, cheers

Now I know that most people would view the Beatles as arguably the greatest music group of all time, but alot of componants that made the legend often get overlooked, one of them the guitar playing of Mr Harrison. His guitar playing was even better throughout his solo career.

1: What are his best 5 performances on record?

2: What do you think/like about his style? Which style was his best?

3: Do you rate him and why? Out of 10


I have time to give my views.


1: Best 5 performances in no order............

Guitar playing on Abbey Road. Something and Here Comes The Sun. also Particularly on side 2 medleys, some of his most creative playing

The Let It Be solo

His meancing slide guitar on Lennons Imagine album, particularly Gimme Some Truth and How Do You Sleep

Later career works such Free As A Bird and Real Love and his Brainwashed songs, his fills and slide solos add so much feeling to the songs.

His impromptu ukelele performance (and solo) at the Uke Convention in the 90's. Not many have heard this but its an Old George Formby song and is somewhere on the net.


2: The thing I liked about his playing is that in any song, he always inserted his guitar work based on what the song needed, never showing off, making each note integral to the sound. He was versatile (dobro, uke, banjo, sitar, acoustic and electric, mandolin) but I really rated him as a slide guitarist of the highest order on par with Allman and Mick Jones. He played a eload of slide and its his signature style really, one can't make an assessment as to how adept he was playing slide until you have heard a bulk of his solo recordings. Eric Clapton was name dropping him as the best exponant of the slide nearly 20 years ago.

3: Maybe not the greatest ever guitarist but should be rated in at least the top 10 regardless of the fact that most people gained an appreciation of his playing and interest in his career became more prevelant following his untimely death.

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[Carlos]

kashmir riff : the greatest most powerfull rock riff..EVER

That it might very well be, but the greatest of all great men John Bonham actually came up with that one.

Page
Not technically perfect but his sound and songwriting are amazing.

When on his feel was amazing, but in moments he could be loose and sloppy and his rhythm playing was all over the shop (Black Dog - in fact the whole band's performance on the recorded version of that track is a little bit off).

But i dont think there is a guitarist who was responsible for more signature riffs. And that sound just changed the way rock music was listened to and played.

I havent heard much of his pre or post Zeppelin stuff, but you can just hear how much better they all made eachother as players. He just had so much freedom despite being the only guitarist and had complete trust in his rhythm section to hold it together for him. I've read Plant say it was almost telepathic and you can see it in the live performances. That is what makes them the ultimate band.

But i particularly loved his interplay with Plant's vocal lines. Whether it be calling and responding or actually locking in with i loved how his guitar would take on the role of a dueting vocal or backing vocalist at times.

And the fact he looked so freakin cool doing it all helped make him just about the ultimate guitar hero.

My fav would probably be "The Ocean". Just such a hoppy, groovin lick that is just all Page. Man i love that song!

Custard Pie wouldn't be far away either. The attitude on that is just ridiculous.

His lead work on "Since I've been Loving You", particularly on the Madison Square Garden 73 concert on the double DVD set is just incredible. Its as emotional as guitar playing can get.

As much as Moby D*ck is known for the obvious, Page's playing on that, particularly that riff is just monstorous!! Bonzo goes ok too...

The guitar sounds on No Quarter does my head in too. Just so moody.

And i dont care if its cliched to say it or whatever, but his lead on Stairway to Heaven is immense. Unless i'm stoned, I dont really get right into that song until Bonzo comes in and the whole song lifts, but Page is driving the whole thing from start to finish.

 

[Truck Rutten]

As others have said, he wasn't a technical wizard, just a great blues-rock player.

As a writer of memorable rock riffs he's simply without peer. Add to that the beautiful acoustic guitar based songs he wrote, and to me he's one of the most important musicians to have ever drawn breath.

Every now and then I'll tune my guitar to DGCGCD and play along with the Rain Song in awe of just what a spectacular piece of music it is.

 

[FIGJAM]

As much as Moby D*ck is known for the obvious,

Why? What happened in that song??

 

[Derek Zoolander]

When on his feel was amazing, but in moments he could be loose and sloppy and his rhythm playing was all over the shop (Black Dog - in fact the whole band's performance on the recorded version of that track is a little bit off).

Interesting. I've had this conversation before with people (re: black dog) and have been beaten down for suggesting that. It is however one of my favorite songs to sing to - Being smashed and thinking you can hit those notes...

 

[hotpie]

I'm gunna go out on a limb here - but I reckon Plant and Bonham made Jimmy Page sound good. Plant's soaring vocals and Bonhams relentless aggressive drumming made the Led Zep sound. Jimmy Page was a support act.

Page was at his best when he was playing slower songs like Going To California.

 

[FIGJAM]

I'm gunna go out on a limb here - but I reckon Plant and Bonham made Jimmy Page sound good. Plant's soaring vocals and Bonhams relentless aggressive drumming made the Led Zep sound. Jimmy Page was a support act.

It's a fairly flimsy limb hp!

The guy's a freak and if anything, it was his band with the others in support.

 

[hotpie]

It's a fairly flimsy limb hp!

I actually went out on the whole Plant.

 

[FIGJAM]

I actually went out on the whole Plant.

That's one (Bon)hammy joke!

 

[UpForGrabs]

Page is my #1. Made it seem so easy. As for his five best... Here goes!

#5 - 'The Rain Song' (Unledded, 1995). The Zeppelin version on record is sheer perfection, however to see it being performed, there's no better than on the 'Unledded' dvd with Robert Plant from 1995. Page plays the whole thing acoustic, and at the end of the song, after he's nailed it, Plant gives him this look and a nod, as if to say "you just kicked mine and everyone else's ass with that".

#4 - 'Stairway to Heaven' (Led Zeppelin IV, 1971) - Yeah, I know what you're thinking. But do something. Don't listen to the song for three years, then come back to it with fresh ears and you'll realise why it's so popular. As Guitar World put it "if Jimmy Page were George Lucas, 'Stairway to Heaven' would be his 'Star Wars'".

#3 - 'Ten Years Gone' (Physical Graffiti, 1975) - Zeppelin's best, and most underrated, song. Every time I listen to it I try and pick how many guitar tracks on there and I can never tell. I think there's three, but there could be four. Not too sure. Who cares though? Few groups ever wrote songs as good as this.

#2 - 'I'm Gonna Crawl' (In Through the Out Door, 1979) - Even though he won't admit it, Page was heavily into heroin by this stage. This, the last song on the last official Zeppelin album, contains a solo that is so great, yet at the same time you can almost hear the smack go through his veins.

#1 - 'Since I've Been Loving You' (Led Zeppelin III, 1970) - The second best guitar solo of all time, and Page's best. No explanation needed, just go listen to it.

 

[smasha]

Glorified musicians with way too much ego and control.