Autopsy Rd 3 Sydney v North Melbourne

[Punts]

Yet still gets dragged. Think about that. Our best player so far this season and he cops more flack than nearly anyone.

And only 21 FFS

That’s your opinion that he has been our best , end of

 

[The King!]

Where is the swans big footy board

 

[caesar88]

Sam McClure that human porky pig did a match report on our game yesterday, filled with the standard shit you would expect, including calling it a "gritty" win, a game that fans won't be wanting to watch the replay of, and an "unfortunately" as he writes that North couldn't catch up.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Sam McClure that human porky pig did a match report on our game yesterday, filled with the standard sh*t you would expect, including calling it a "gritty" win, a game that fans won't be wanting to watch the replay of, and an "unfortunately" as he writes that North couldn't catch up.

Well he's wrong, I've watched the replay twice!

 

[J_Moore]

Florent had an absolute shocker against the Dons (11 turnovers!), but only 2 yesterday. Overall, his game is improving and there’s no chance he’ll be dropped any time soon.

plenty to work on, but he’s getting better, which is more than you can say for a lot of the list

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Rowy & Paps really stood out for me.

The coaches & Ramps tightened the reigns after the 1st quarter & never looked back (which was pleasing).

 

[JeremyVanHolden]

I’d like to see Hayward brought into the action more as a winger. He’s got great skills but needs more volume to have an impact and get some more confidence up.
dumbfounded over calls for Florent to dropped? He’s a few cleaner kicks want from being elite.
COR is going a good job defending, that’s his job first and foremost If you don’t notice him much it’s a good thing.

This is exactly it. Every error a defender makes will rightly be scrutinised as it has a huge chance of leading to a goal. As the saying goes, a forward needs to get lucky once to snap a goal, a defender needs to get lucky every time to prevent it. If a defender is doing a good job they shouldn't be recognised as much as say, a forward playing well who would be expected to score.
I've watched back the game and although COR might not get the fantasy points or plaudits for doing the amazing runs off the shoulder and whatnot, I noticed a pretty impressive stat...the player he was marking touched the ball 7 times....5 of these times COR wasnt even on the field. He kept his marker to 2 touches of the footy throughout the game! Christ almighty that is huge in my eyes and what I want to see from my defenders!

I understand people here want to see more from him because I think we know he is capable of being a real influential running player but if a defender doesn't touch the ball but also stops his marker from having any impact on the game, is that not still a job well done?

Great win all the same and also great to see so many players bounce back froma. Disappointing game the week before, huge mental strength to do that! Bring on the next game!

 

[Kapers]

This is exactly it. Every error a defender makes will rightly be scrutinised as it has a huge chance of leading to a goal. As the saying goes, a forward needs to get lucky once to snap a goal, a defender needs to get lucky every time to prevent it. If a defender is doing a good job they shouldn't be recognised as much as say, a forward playing well who would be expected to score.
I've watched back the game and although COR might not get the fantasy points or plaudits for doing the amazing runs off the shoulder and whatnot, I noticed a pretty impressive stat...the player he was marking touched the ball 7 times....5 of these times COR wasnt even on the field. He kept his marker to 2 touches of the footy throughout the game! Christ almighty that is huge in my eyes and what I want to see from my defenders!

I understand people here want to see more from him because I think we know he is capable of being a real influential running player but if a defender doesn't touch the ball but also stops his marker from having any impact on the game, is that not still a job well done?

Great win all the same and also great to see so many players bounce back froma. Disappointing game the week before, huge mental strength to do that! Bring on the next game!

Out of pure curiosity, who did he play against.
I'm also in the camp of, if a back man is not noticed, he's probably done a good job(just look at the reaction to Mills getting caught)

 

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[Diamond Jim]

I’ll put my hand up and say I got my pre game assessment of Sinclair, Heeney/Parker forward and Heywoods output wrong. Maybe they read my post!

Huge wrap for Rowy, Paps, Mills, Rampie.

Is Heeney the new Brent ‘Tiger’ Crosswell? As good in the air, just as fast, just as balanced, ...maybe not quite as feisty....

 

[Wolftone]

Colin O'Riordan contributed -14 metres gained for the match

Heeney rebounded well after last week, and Kennedy was a gun. I really like McLean's application

I have no idea what Hayward is contributing at the moment

Hayward, 1 goal. McCartin, 1 behind. Ten disposals between them. Pressure acts plenty. But they both need to lift. I would bring in Gould to replace O'Riordan. I like Colin but yesterday he got lost in the sunlight somewhere. Many of our blokes had low stats. Nine plyers had less than 10 disposals. Hewee only had 11. Same with Aliir and Cunningham. Gray had 13 which I'm shocked about because I hardly noticed him. Due to the shorter quarters the new norm in the mids is about 15-20 disposals. I noticed Taylor more yet he had only 5 disposals. So let's not judge the players on what their averages are as they are never going to achieve that.

But I do agree we need to get more out of Wil. He has the capacity to be a match winner and needs to start producing that.

 

[Millky95]

Hayward, 1 goal. McCartin, 1 behind. Ten disposals between them. Pressure acts plenty. But they both need to lift. I would bring in Gould to replace O'Riordan. I like Colin but yesterday he got lost in the sunlight somewhere. Many of our blokes had low stats. Nine plyers had less than 10 disposals. Hewee only had 11. Same with Aliir and Cunningham. Gray had 13 which I'm shocked about because I hardly noticed him. Due to the shorter quarters the new norm in the mids is about 15-20 disposals. I noticed Taylor more yet he had only 5 disposals. So let's not judge the players on what their averages are as they are never going to achieve that.

But I do agree we need to get more out of Wil. He has the capacity to be a match winner and needs to start producing that.

TBF, I notice Taylor more because when he goes near the ball I hope it goes somewhere else

 

[Punts]

Harry another one who has to lift

Not the greatest start to the season

 

[Wolftone]

Yeah Hayward isn't offering much, but is Sam Gray offering any more?

Good win. 3 rounds in and ahead of both of last year's Grand Finalists on the ladder. Take that everyday.

According to the stats in disposals yes. In goals no.

 

[The Gong]

Hayward, 1 goal. McCartin, 1 behind. Ten disposals between them. Pressure acts plenty. But they both need to lift. I would bring in Gould to replace O'Riordan. I like Colin but yesterday he got lost in the sunlight somewhere. Many of our blokes had low stats. Nine plyers had less than 10 disposals. Hewee only had 11. Same with Aliir and Cunningham. Gray had 13 which I'm shocked about because I hardly noticed him. Due to the shorter quarters the new norm in the mids is about 15-20 disposals. I noticed Taylor more yet he had only 5 disposals. So let's not judge the players on what their averages are as they are never going to achieve that.

But I do agree we need to get more out of Wil. He has the capacity to be a match winner and needs to start producing that.

I noticed Gray and I thought he did OK considering he was working in traffic most of the time the ball came near him. He was able to turn some potential Norths possessions into at least a 50/50 with some pressure acts.

We had a small forward line and the ball was still coming into players like Papley, who was double marked at times, and expecting him to mark it like he's 6 foot 5. It was hard work crumbing in our forward line.

 

[Ralphyboy]

Hayward, 1 goal. McCartin, 1 behind. Ten disposals between them. Pressure acts plenty. But they both need to lift. I would bring in Gould to replace O'Riordan. I like Colin but yesterday he got lost in the sunlight somewhere. Many of our blokes had low stats. Nine plyers had less than 10 disposals. Hewee only had 11. Same with Aliir and Cunningham. Gray had 13 which I'm shocked about because I hardly noticed him. Due to the shorter quarters the new norm in the mids is about 15-20 disposals. I noticed Taylor more yet he had only 5 disposals. So let's not judge the players on what their averages are as they are never going to achieve that.

But I do agree we need to get more out of Wil. He has the capacity to be a match winner and needs to start producing that.

I think Gray had quite a few little handballs plus two marks from wayward north kicks. Very little metres gained, whereas Taylor does run and carry more.

 

[Wolftone]

From the worst most biased article written on the game by Sam McLure;

Sydney outmuscle North Melbourne

It's not the type of game that fans will be scurrying to buy a copy of, but Sydney are used to that.

www.smh.com.au

And more shite from Jake Niall the Age Head Footy Writer;

Sydney on the brink of recession: the hard road for the Swans

The club that was the flagship of the AFL's expansion into NSW has never faced such a challenge to return to premiership contention and maintain market share.

www.theage.com.au

To the best written by unknown AAP writer in the Guardian;

AFL round-up: Carlton hang onto upset Geelong in thriller

Carlton are partying like its 1996 after defeating Geelong at Kardinia Park for the first time in 24 years, stunning the Cats by two points on Saturday night

www.theguardian.com

The AAP article is a Saturday round up of matches so not just Swans. But there is a total difference in the reporting. A total lack of bias. The reporting in the Age/Sydney Morning Herald is a disgrace and so Melbourne team biased. We played very well. The game was a good spectacle and yet McLure says it was only just bearable. He must have been watching the wrong game. The Bullies maybe? That game was unbearable. It was one of the worst games I have ever seen.

On to Swans. We were good. It was a total team effort. Blakey even got the match ups right in the backs and freed Dawson up a bit. In the end Rhyce sent Pittard to him as a defensive forward. That really worked didn't it. It is easy and the game comes together when the match ups are right. Our mids were sensational. This midfield group are good, very good. Paddlebum, Florent, Gray, Harry are giving us something different this year. Direct footy, run and carry and good disposal. Punts can knock Ollie's disposal all he likes the kid shot off a couple of blinders on the weekend.

McLean was good and he competed well in the ruck and forward. He is huge in the shoulders and arms so is not going to be easily pushed out of the contest. Fox played a blinder. He was sensational as that link up attacking defender. His delivery was extremely good. Him, Dawson and Lloyd all delivered so well. This is so helpful to players further up the ground. That reminds me, the inclusion of Fox does free Lloydy to go up the ground more often and sometimes play on a wing. We did it last week too but Lloydy had to go back because of team balance. Whereas with Fox in the team that is not necessary. It also gives us flexibility to move Lloydy, Dawson and Fox about from HB to wing etc.

All in all a very good win. Next week blood gould for O'Riordan.

 

[Skystyler]

the pair of them are just treading water atm, although tbf Taylor was one of our best against the bummers. We are still waiting for Sam Gray's breakout game in red and white, but its coming.
Jury is still out on COR too. The defense as a whole was pretty good after quarter time, which might be enough reason for him to keep his spot. But he'd want to show a bit more next week.

 

[Punts]

COR isn’t much at all

Gould to have a crack imo if he is up to it

 

[Skystyler]

Loved Robbie Fox's game

 

[Millky95]

Loved Robbie Fox's game

Agreed. Thought he played really well.

 

[The King!]

TBF, I notice Taylor more because when he goes near the ball I hope it goes somewhere else

I notice him because I think it’s jarred crouch

 

[BloodySwan]

Loved Robbie Fox's game

That hip & shoulder he landed was brilliant

 

[The King!]

Harry another one who has to lift

Not the greatest start to the season

His pressure has been good

 

[wilsonmatic]

Doesn't matter who it is. A pure tap ruckman who does sh*t all around the ground should be dominating by 10-15+ ho's a game otherwise we're a man down, what's the point.

That hip & shoulder he landed was brilliant

Yes. But there was another contest late when north were on a run and the north player just bounced off him and scored a goal. Fox should have nailed the tackle.