Replace Martyn with Bichel.

[kaysee]

Australia have huge batting depth and especially with most of our bowlers able to wield the willow. I think it's time to bring in Bichel to replace Martyn. Martyn is in poor form and Australia can go back to playing 4 strike bowlers in McGrath, Lee, Dizzy and Bichel.

Also I think Gilchrist might be better served dropping down the order we Australia bats 2nd... maybe to 4th and open with Lehman. He seems to be too tired to open after spending 50 overs keeping.

Cheers
SKC

 

[ScouseCat]

I would be a little worried going into a game with Hogg, Lee, Bichel, Gillespie and McGrath batting 7 to 11, especially if we lose some early wickets like what happened last night against England.

 

[red+black]

Originally posted by kaysee
Australia have huge batting depth and especially with most of our bowlers able to wield the willow. I think it's time to bring in Bichel to replace Martyn. Martyn is in poor form and Australia can go back to playing 4 strike bowlers in McGrath, Lee, Dizzy and Bichel.

Also I think Gilchrist might be better served dropping down the order we Australia bats 2nd... maybe to 4th and open with Lehman. He seems to be too tired to open after spending 50 overs keeping.

Cheers
SKC

I agree, drop Martyn for Bichel. Bichel and Gillespie offer more than Martyn in terms of both bowling and batting. Many teams seem to have one batsman short, I don't think we will be adversely affected by having 5 bowlers.

Also need for Gilchrist to stop throwing his wicket away.

 

[Unwritten_Law]

If you were going to drop anyone for Bichel it would have to be Symonds.....wouldn't it?

One good innings shouldn't give him a free ride for the whole world cup.

 

[jim440]

Open with Hayden and Jimmy Maher. Bat Lehmann at 4, Bevan 5 and let Gilchrist have a hit at 6.

IMO, we can't play 4 quicks plus Hogg. I'd leave out Lee.

 

[red+black]

Originally posted by jim440
Open with Hayden and Jimmy Maher. Bat Lehmann at 4, Bevan 5 and let Gilchrist have a hit at 6.

IMO, we can't play 4 quicks plus Hogg. I'd leave out Lee.

yeah right, like Maher's gonna get a game

 

[Demon3]

Maher is not good enough for opener. Leave him out. Drop Martyn and put Harvey in so we have 2 alrounders. Laeve openers how they are. Gillespie mightnot play for a while so Bichel will stay in. But agree with dropping Martyn.

 

[dr nick]

Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
If you were going to drop anyone for Bichel it would have to be Symonds.....wouldn't it?

One good innings shouldn't give him a free ride for the whole world cup.

thats what i would have thought. generally you lose nothing with the bat if you were to replace symonds for bichel. i think it is a little close to his 140 odd to be dropping him just yet though (but god knows why he was selected for that game anyway).

i think it is a bit risky replacing a specialist batter (martyn) with bichel, but at this stage if i was on the selection panel, i'd replace brett lee.

 

[DaveW]

Good idea. Bichel is a much better batsman than Martyn.

 

[ScouseCat]

Originally posted by nicko18
i think it is a bit risky replacing a specialist batter (martyn) with bichel, but at this stage if i was on the selection panel, i'd replace brett lee.

I dont think Brett Lee has been bowling badly so far in the World Cup, he just hasn't had much luck go his way. Against Namibia, he had 3 edges fly over the slips for four runs... they could have gone anywhere. Even last night, he had a couple of edges fly between the fielders which can happen sometimes.

His luck will come... hopefully it will be in the last 2 games when it matters most.

 

[Kenny_01]

If anyone gets dropped, it's Symonds. He isn't an allrounder. Lehmann is more of an all rounder than him. Hell, Martyn is probably more of an all rounder. I know Symonds has been in great form in this world cup but I think if someone is dropped, it has to be him.

Martyn and Lee are automatic selections.

 

[JUBJUB]

Originally posted by Unwritten_Law

One good innings shouldn't give him a free ride for the whole world cup.

It's worked for Hayden.

 

[red+black]

Originally posted by Kenny_01
If anyone gets dropped, it's Symonds. He isn't an allrounder. Lehmann is more of an all rounder than him. Hell, Martyn is probably more of an all rounder. I know Symonds has been in great form in this world cup but I think if someone is dropped, it has to be him.

Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
If you were going to drop anyone for Bichel it would have to be Symonds.....wouldn't it?

One good innings shouldn't give him a free ride for the whole world cup.

I've had some time to think about team selection, and I have to agree. Bichel stays. Martyn stays. Symonds goes. He's lucky to be in the squad. Yes he has had two good innings. But that should not guarantee him a place in every game, especially as the important matches draw near. I think Bichel has proved his worth in one day cricket.

In test cricket, I would have question marks over both Bichel and Martyn.

Symonds bowling doesn't cut it, and I think the team could do with the bowling and batting of Bichel. Whatever happened to Symonds being the 12th man during this tournament?

 

[noodle]

Originally posted by kaysee
Australia have huge batting depth and especially with most of our bowlers able to wield the willow. I think it's time to bring in Bichel to replace Martyn. Martyn is in poor form and Australia can go back to playing 4 strike bowlers in McGrath, Lee, Dizzy and Bichel.

i don't think that we would achieve much by dropping martyn. he is our best number 4 batsman and although he has gone cheap in a few games he still hits a reliable score. who would you put in his place in the batting order?

there is no way the selectors will go for a team with 5 specialist bowlers no matter how well they hit. if our top order collapses we would be in the ****.

Originally posted by kaysee
Also I think Gilchrist might be better served dropping down the order we Australia bats 2nd... maybe to 4th and open with Lehman. He seems to be too tired to open after spending 50 overs keeping.

gilly and hayden are easily our best opening combination. they haven't had a real flyer in the world cup so far but they are such a dangerous opening pair when the field is in.

 

[DaveW]

Re: Re: Replace Martyn with Bichel.

Originally posted by noodle

there is no way the selectors will go for a team with 5 specialist bowlers no matter how well they hit. if our top order collapses we would be in the ****.

5? Huh? There are only three at the moment. McGrath, Gillespie, Bichel and Lee would be four.

 

[spring6]

I have got a great idea, we have the best team in the world without a shadow so leave it alone as much as possible. Why on earth would you want to make such drastic changes as bringing Maher in and fooling around with the batting lineup to any large extent when we have not lost a game in 12 or whatever it is? It ain't broke so don't try to fix it.

 

[Goldenblue]

I agree, replace Martyn or Symonds with Bichel.

Hell, you reward players for good form, why does Marto and Symonds get games ahead of Bichel?

 

[Becker]

Darren Lehmann said last night that Jason Gillespie isn't going as well as people might think. He has an Achilles tendon problem and may not be back in action for a while.
Therefore no changes may be made to the team.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

gilly
hayden
ponting
martyn[by default]
boof
bevan
hogg
bichel
lee
gillespie
mcgrath.
this is the side i would go in with.
one of our problems has been the 4th bowler.clearly symonds is not up to it.
having the 4th quick gives ponting flexabilty when bowling.having symonds as the 4th ponting dosent have that option.
just remember a bowler can afford to have one bad ball.a batsman has no 2nd chance.
imagine being the opposition batsman.1st mcgrath and lee then gillespie and bichel..no respite=pressure=panic.

cheers!

 

[noodle]

Re: Re: Re: Replace Martyn with Bichel.

Originally posted by DaveW
5? Huh? There are only three at the moment. McGrath, Gillespie, Bichel and Lee would be four.

i was including Hogg as the 4th/5th bowler.

would you replace hogg with bichel?

 

[Zombie]

Originally posted by tiger of old

having the 4th quick gives ponting flexabilty when bowling.

How exactly does having 4 bowlers of the same type give Ponting 'flexability'? If anything it does the complete opposite.

 

[Kenny_01]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Replace Martyn with Bichel.

Originally posted by noodle
i was including Hogg as the 4th/5th bowler.

would you replace hogg with bichel?

Hogg is more of an all rounder.

 

[dogboy23]

Would have thought some would have learnt a lesson after Bevan emabarrased some of you against England.Martyn is struggling a touch but is still doing a good job.He has 2 half centuries and a couple of 30s in the tournament which is more than some.

 

[bunsen burner]

No shortage of idiots who no f'all about cricket here.

Drop Martyn for Harvey? Back of the queue idiot.

Maher opening? Highly unlikely.

Gilly down the order? Do agree with this, but after the WC. Absolutely no way they should be experimenting with a settled and successful line up so close to the big one. No chance.

Drop Martyn for Bichel? Although Martyn has got a few scores, they are against the crap teams and he has been dropped early a few times too. No doubt his form is lacking. But to chop a batsman for a bowler and unbalance a very successful side? Highly unlikely.

Drop Lee? Possible, but he has been very good for the last few months.

Drop Martyn for Maher? I'm pre-empting this one - someone is bound to mention it soon. Not really that bad an idea, but I would prefer Martyn and I don't think chopping a regular is a good idea this close to the final.

Drop Symonds for Bichel? Yes please. Symonds can't bowl so he unbalances the team. I'd prefer Lehmann to bowl before Symonds.

So if McGrath, Gillespie, Lee, Bichel and Hogg bowl with Lehmann as more than handy back-up, that makes Symonds effectively a batsman. I'd prefer Martyn. Easily.

 

[Kenny_01]

Originally posted by bunsen burner
No shortage of idiots who no f'all about cricket here.

Drop Martyn for Harvey? Back of the queue idiot.

Maher opening? Highly unlikely.

Gilly down the order? Do agree with this, but after the WC. Absolutely no way they should be experimenting with a settled and successful line up so close to the big one. No chance.

Drop Martyn for Bichel? Although Martyn has got a few scores, they are against the crap teams and he has been dropped early a few times too. No doubt his form is lacking. But to chop a batsman for a bowler and unbalance a very successful side? Highly unlikely.

Drop Lee? Possible, but he has been very good for the last few months.

Drop Martyn for Maher? I'm pre-empting this one - someone is bound to mention it soon. Not really that bad an idea, but I would prefer Martyn and I don't think chopping a regular is a good idea this close to the final.

Drop Symonds for Bichel? Yes please. Symonds can't bowl so he unbalances the team. I'd prefer Lehmann to bowl before Symonds.

So if McGrath, Gillespie, Lee, Bichel and Hogg bowl with Lehmann as more than handy back-up, that makes Symonds effectively a batsman. I'd prefer Martyn. Easily.

Yeah agree with most of that. Well said.