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SM said:
I'm confused, which one are you back at now?

It's a definitive statement made with experience in the corporate environment and how short stints look on a cv. Being on good terms with them means nothing to a prospective employer looking at dates on a piece of paper. It makes you look a flight risk.
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Yeah, well I definitely wasn't going to stay at a place where I was coming home miserable every day and genuinely did not like my job at all.
 

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Cruyff14 said:
Yeah, well I definitely wasn't going to stay at a place where I was coming home miserable every day and genuinely did not like my job at all.
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Can’t blame you mate. Don’t worry about the plebs here, you 100% made the right choice
 
Cruyff14 said:
Yeah, well I definitely wasn't going to stay at a place where I was coming home miserable every day and genuinely did not like my job at all.
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So you're not gonna clarify where you are now?
 
MrsEddieBetts said:
He left place A to go to place B. Didn't like B. Now back at A.
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Ah ok that's what I thought happened initially, but all this talk of leaving and having left and going back.. made me think he had again left place A and was back at place B. And his stand offish response didn't clarify. :tearsofjoy:
 
ioppolo said:
Who cares how many jobs are on ones resume. Company loyalty is such a load bullshit.
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It's not about number it's time in a job.
 
Rod Stroker said:
So what's the right amount of time in a job?
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Usually at least 12 months. If you hate a job but can stick it out until 12 months that's usually best, unless you can come up with a good story in an interview (if you make it).
 

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SM said:
Usually at least 12 months. If you hate a job but can stick it out until 12 months that's usually best, unless you can come up with a good story in an interview (if you make it).
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Would "This was an opportunity that I couldn't pass up," be a sufficiently "good story"?

I would have thought that it's not too hard to turn the conversation from why you left your old job to why you want the job that you're applying for. And if there's a gap between, you'd just have to consider what some of the obvious differences are and emphasise those.
 
MC Extra Dollop said:
Would "This was an opportunity that I couldn't pass up," be a sufficiently "good story"?

I would have thought that it's not too hard to turn the conversation from why you left your old job to why you want the job that you're applying for. And if there's a gap between, you'd just have to consider what some of the obvious differences are and emphasise those.
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My point was if you get the chance to turn the conversation then you might be able to, but you probably won't even get to an interview if you have a string of short term jobs unless you're really outstanding for the role.
 
SM said:
My point was if you get the chance to turn the conversation then you might be able to, but you probably won't even get to an interview if you have a string of short term jobs unless you're really outstanding for the role.
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Maybe if there's a string, but take Cruyff's example. On face value, I'd probably be looking at a new employer, instead of going back where I'd come from, but each to their own. I don't know all the circumstances. Anyway, it sounds like Cruyff's employment history is:

  • Employer A - several years (5-10?)
  • Employer B - not long (6 months?)
Now, if I'm potential Employer C, it's not much of a concern. I'd like to think our organisation and the role we're advertising for is more attractive than Employer B.

I accept your point though. The organisation that I'm with is the first time in my life that I could see myself staying for 10+ years, maybe even 20-30. I'd never made it to three years before. I've had shit jobs, ones where I was basically checking Seek every second day for something better, but never anything where I'd quit with nothing else lined up. If I've been unsuccessful with an application, big deal, on to the next one. I'm not sure how others have found it, but while I've had a couple of redundancies, I've never really been in danger of being sacked anywhere and sackings in general have seemed pretty few and far between.
 
MC Extra Dollop said:
Maybe if there's a string, but take Cruyff's example. On face value, I'd probably be looking at a new employer, instead of going back where I'd come from, but each to their own. I don't know all the circumstances. Anyway, it sounds like Cruyff's employment history is:

  • Employer A - several years (5-10?)
  • Employer B - not long (6 months?)
Now, if I'm potential Employer C, it's not much of a concern. I'd like to think our organisation and the role we're advertising for is more attractive than Employer B.

I accept your point though. The organisation that I'm with is the first time in my life that I could see myself staying for 10+ years, maybe even 20-30. I'd never made it to three years before. I've had shit jobs, ones where I was basically checking Seek every second day for something better, but never anything where I'd quit with nothing else lined up. If I've been unsuccessful with an application, big deal, on to the next one. I'm not sure how others have found it, but while I've had a couple of redundancies, I've never really been in danger of being sacked anywhere and sackings in general have seemed pretty few and far between.
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Yeah I've already clarified that I was confused by all his movement and thought he had two short stints not one. One is usually fine it's just when a habit starts to emerge which was the cause of my original comment.
 
IMO you can yo-yo once, but that's it. I've worked with people that have done long stints (5+ years), left for relatively short periods (3 months to a year or two) and then returned. And I've worked with people who have done that and then left again. It's pretty much accepted at that point that they are gone for good.

It's a bit like being offered a job and then asking for a pay rise. If you go into your boss's office and say 'I was offered this job which is $20k more, do you want to match it and I'll stay' then he/she might play ball. If you do that and then do the same thing 3 months later he/she will probably tell you to walk.

If you a doing short term contracts then it's normal to work for companies multiple times for short periods, though.
 

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SM said:
Usually at least 12 months. If you hate a job but can stick it out until 12 months that's usually best, unless you can come up with a good story in an interview (if you make it).
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Interesting. In my line of work (Enterprise IT), I'd want to know that someone I hire is going to be likely to stick around for at least 18-24 months, in order to justify the investment we are making in them. And you can usually only make that judgement based on their employment history. So if candidates are prone to job hopping after 12 months, it's a red flag and usually a pass for me.
It's really hard to make a difference and have a lasting impact on the business in 12 months or less.
 
Rod Stroker said:
Interesting. In my line of work (Enterprise IT), I'd want to know that someone I hire is going to be likely to stick around for at least 18-24 months, in order to justify the investment we are making in them. And you can usually only make that judgement based on their employment history. So if candidates are prone to job hopping after 12 months, it's a red flag and usually a pass for me.
It's really hard to make a difference and have a lasting impact on the business in 12 months or less.
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12 months is definitely the minimum but the broad point seems to be the same.
 

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