Rest Rhys

[Chops_a_must]

i'd like to see Browne and OBrien get another crack this year.

O'Brien hasn't been playing in the middle AFAIK, and you'd have to wonder whether Browne would even be able to offer more than an effective quarter at AFL level in terms of fitness.

Love Browne to bits... but unless he gets a month or more injury free in the WAFL, he might struggle even to get a look in. Simply because it wouldn't do him justice.

 

[summerthebat]

I really want to see Browne play this year, I mean, unless he can pull something miraculous it's going to be his last year for Freo.

A career robbed by injury!

 

[Sman-21]

Yep bein saying to rest the young guys every now an again since round 2.

They might recover from soreness/tissue damage quicker than older guys but as there not generally used to the pace an intensity week after week there bodies end up suffering in the long run and chances of OP etc are greater.

The season is over guys like palmer,ibbo, and mayne have proved themselves as gutsy hard working players an will be very good players for us next year.

They have already gained lots of experience so 3 or 4 missed games out of the ones remaining isnt a big deal.

We dont have many other young guys in our squad time to give them a bunch of games an game time to see if its worth keeping them.
Also means the young stars can get a much needed rest.

Look how malthouse has eased the young collingwood players into the game.
Guys like dale thomas an pendlebury etc have big wraps an showed they were gonna be good in there first season but malthouse didnt overuse them no matter how good they were playing.

Then you see teams like richmond/stkilda Coughlin an Ball were stars in there first season but got played week after week.
Ball is only just recovering now from op an other problems an looks like he will never return to 100%.
Coughlin is still struggling an may never return.

 

[Bluto]

Yep bein saying to rest the young guys every now an again since round 2.
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The season is over guys like palmer,ibbo, and mayne have proved themselves as gutsy hard working players an will be very good players for us next year.

They have already gained lots of experience so 3 or 4 missed games out of the ones remaining isnt a big deal.

Ibbo is in his 3rd year in the system, there is little need for him to be rested at this point. What he needs is as much game time as possible pumped into him.

Palmer is a year older than most draftees and is already well developed. He gets a week off for the bye week coming up and that should be enough at this point. Unless he picks up a niggle or two there is no need to rest him.

Mayne should probably get a couple of games off based on the fact he is still pretty scrawny and he throws himself into everything 100%. Bound to pull up sorer than most.

We dont have many other young guys in our squad time to give them a bunch of games an game time to see if its worth keeping them.
Also means the young stars can get a much needed rest.

It is hard to follow what you are saying here, do you mean rest the current young blokes to play other young blokes? There isnt really anyone else to play with all the injuries. Brock and Clayton will get another run sooner or later.

Look how malthouse has eased the young collingwood players into the game.
Guys like dale thomas an pendlebury etc have big wraps an showed they were gonna be good in there first season but malthouse didnt overuse them no matter how good they were playing.

Then you see teams like richmond/stkilda Coughlin an Ball were stars in there first season but got played week after week.
Ball is only just recovering now from op an other problems an looks like he will never return to 100%.
Coughlin is still struggling an may never return.

Dale Thomas was built like Mayne and Hinkley, not Palmer. If you take his second season, which is a better comparison to Palmer age wise, he hasnt missed a game out of the last 37.

And also, Coughlan being injured has nothing to do with being overplayed and everything to do with having rotten luck with knee injuries. That is just a terrible example. Especially given he only played 5 games in his first season. not exactly week after week.

For every example of a young bloke playing a lot of games and then getting injured you have more of young blokes playing a lot of games and NOT getting injured. Rest them if they need it, not just for the sake of it.

 

[DCFCFAN84]

In a way Harvey has been resting him his time on ground last week was down and he hardly played midfield so he wouldn't have been running as much that seems like the way to go IMO. How ever resting him against the saints at TD which has a very hard surface isn't a bad idea considering they only have a 6 day break. I am torn because he is my favorite freo player to watch but I don't want to see him get injured.

 

[Geoff]

Harder grounds, greater strength through the legs, moving a lot of fitness work to the bike, and poor running technique are usually what is thought to be the main problems. The only constant there is the poor running technique.

Chops, thanks for the insight, very informative. Do you reckon you could give us your view on Judd? I thought his running technique was pretty good and had good all round strength. Groin issues eventually caught up with him. Appreciate if you could do the same analysis you did on Palmer for Judd. I am just curios on what you come up with.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Chops, thanks for the insight, very informative. Do you reckon you could give us your view on Judd? I thought his running technique was pretty good and had good all round strength. Groin issues eventually caught up with him. Appreciate if you could do the same analysis you did on Palmer for Judd. I am just curios on what you come up with.

I remember reading an article about Judd, supposedly when he had a problem with his arm (it was in a sling) he started running heavily again.

Having his arm in a sling, caused him to alter his running technique, this then lead to the OP troubles. In the end, Judd's injury was caused by bad running techniques during an unrelated injury.

 

[DeanS]

By starting Rhys on the bench last week at the start of the game and again for at least one other quarter, I think Harves has shown he will look after the boy by cutting down his match time.

That plus the bye should be enough.

 

[Chops_a_must]

I remember reading an article about Judd, supposedly when he had a problem with his arm (it was in a sling) he started running heavily again.

Having his arm in a sling, caused him to alter his running technique, this then lead to the OP troubles. In the end, Judd's injury was caused by bad running techniques during an unrelated injury.

That could certainly do it. But didn't realise that. If your upper back doesn't rotate correctly, the hips have to compensate.

Chops, thanks for the insight, very informative. Do you reckon you could give us your view on Judd? I thought his running technique was pretty good and had good all round strength. Groin issues eventually caught up with him. Appreciate if you could do the same analysis you did on Palmer for Judd. I am just curios on what you come up with.

From what I could gather from quite a reliable source (treats a lot of players over east on trips) his groin problems weren't a typical OP. He felt he could have had him right in 3-4 weeks.

If I remember correctly, Judd re-injured one of his shoulders in the 06 grand final, and his running technique stiffened up significantly in his last season at the Eagles. So I'm not sure if he had surgery again, or anything else that effected that.

As I said above, if you don't get the rotation in your upper back, your hips have to compensate. It is much harder to get leg drive when your upper back is "stiff" and it puts pressure on your hip flexors. You're then predisposed to a high adductor tear, which is what I assume happened to Judd. But if they don't sort out the hip flexors that may have led to it, he is going to continue to have problems with it... like funnily enough... shithouse kicking... like he has now. Which is why I think it's how his groin became a problem.

When you see him out and about, the first thing you notice about him is how straight he is. He looks like he has a steel rod in him. He played for the eagles, so it is possible he did have a rod in him for a lot of the time, but that's another matter. He's really the last person you'd expect to have groin or legs problems. His leg movement was very efficient and on a very straight plain, landed seemingly correctly on his feet. So no problems there I don't think. However, he has quite a unique, very low hyperextension in his lower back. And that with the associated pelvic rotation would mean he would struggle with any hip flexor problems if they emerged.

Just my opinion.

But cheers,
Chops.

 

[wehavethepassion]

Rotate him more thru bench V saints and bummers games then we have a bye put the young fella on a plane and send him to broome for some R&R for the whole week.

If we had a decent midfield he would have been rested weeks ago.

Now with Wiza playing up the field and touch wood schammer stepping up along with Josh(?) giving Rhys less game time mite lessen the load.

I like to see mayne given more time in the midfield with his unreal attack at the ball.