i sincerely hope we dont have to play the hawks in the finals.
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So do I. I'm starting to get very nervous about the possibility.
I almost think it would have been a better result for Hawthorn to lose tonight,
Nah, I reckon we've got them covered at Subi. Their backline is shithouse, and if we can get McPharlin back we match up pretty well on their forwards.
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The ladder is looking pretty strange at the moment. We could be 10-4 and two games clear in fourth by this afternoon. If North Melbourne do the unthinkable and knock off Geelong, there could be 5 teams on 8-6 by the end of the round.
15 wins will get us fourth from here. 6 to go.
15 wins will get us fourth from here. 6 to go.
If we get 4th who would you rather play, Geelong or St Kilda?
Geelong in my opinion we match up better with them.
Geelong. Their game plan suits us more. Sandi is also more likely to dominate against the Cats than St Kilda. We dont seem to have match ups for the Saints small forwards either.
The trouble with Geelong is the Skilled stadium factor. I could see us going down there on a cold windy day and kicking 4.11. I think the Saintrs at Etihad would be preferred. We've lost twice, all the pressure is on them.
Fear no one, to be the best you have to beat the best.
We have proven we can match it with the best, just have to do it when it matters most in Spetember.
Yeah I would rather Geelong, wouldn't like St Kilda at the Dome.
got very bad memories of them smashing us at subi 5 or 6 years ago with our season on the line. I know we have a comletely different team from then but geez i reckon Subi suits their style of play well. Also Pav may have to play a lot of that game in the middle.
Would also rather geelong that st kilda. Though in the grannie id prefer the saints.
Yep, Saints have beaten us three times this season (inc Nab Cap) and we haven't looked like being able to beat their defensive zones. So I'd much prefer to play Geelong in a Qualifying Final. They may blow us out of the water but they play a more attacking style which suits us. And the final wouldn't be at Skilled as previously explained.
Even so, I think big away final victories are going to be beyond us in 2010. Could be wrong, but I doubt we'll be able to beat Geelong, St Kilda or Collingwood in Melbourne. And unless we get into the top two that's exactly what we'll need to do to make our first ever Grand Final.
Even so, I think big away final victories are going to be beyond us in 2010. Could be wrong, but I doubt we'll be able to beat Geelong, St Kilda or Collingwood in Melbourne. And unless we get into the top two that's exactly what we'll need to do to make our first ever Grand Final.
I can understand people thinking we match up better with Geelong, because we have had done well against them in a few games recently. However, I also think that they are far more likely to blow us away in Melbourne than St Kilda. If the Cats get their best side on the park, I don't like our chances at all away from Subiaco.
The Saints play a low-scoring defensive game that can keep you within striking distance, and leaves the door slightly open if you can take your chances (easier said than done, as the last few years have proved, and as we saw last Friday when they completely shut the Cats out). Ignoring the Riewoldt factor (which is admittedly massive), I just feel that we played well below our best against them in two games this year and only just lost both. Yet against the Cats, we played easily our best game of the season and only just beat them.
Whatever the case, we will probably have to play both of them (but maybe only need to beat one of them) if we want to win the flag.
The Saints play a low-scoring defensive game that can keep you within striking distance, and leaves the door slightly open if you can take your chances (easier said than done, as the last few years have proved, and as we saw last Friday when they completely shut the Cats out). Ignoring the Riewoldt factor (which is admittedly massive), I just feel that we played well below our best against them in two games this year and only just lost both. Yet against the Cats, we played easily our best game of the season and only just beat them.
Whatever the case, we will probably have to play both of them (but maybe only need to beat one of them) if we want to win the flag.
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This didn't really go our way. We needed Hawthorn to win. We are going to finish top 6 no matter what. We are 2 games and percentage ahead of Sydney in 7th place.
If Hawthorn won, and we win, we are a (slight) chance at top 2.
May be a bit of luck with an InterchangeGate, who knows.
If Hawthorn won, and we win, we are a (slight) chance at top 2.
May be a bit of luck with an InterchangeGate, who knows.
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I don't mind that result too much. With the form Hawthorn are in, they'd be chasing both the Dogs and us and if they'd have won, they'd be a game behind us. We'll probably lose to the Dogs so although it isn't exactly a huge space between us and the Hawks, it's comfortable enough for now. The top 3 spots are sewn up, it's just a matter of the order now.
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If we lose to the Dogs, then it doesn't matter if Hawthorn overtake us, because the Dogs are in front with a shitload more percentage. The Dogs have Geelong toe come, but Hawthorn have Collingwood.
Really, top 4 is pretty much soley down to us. Anything better than that we need a bit of luck.
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Yeah true, but the Dogs have a tougher run home than us. Really, if everything goes well, we could win every game bar Hawthorn in Tassie. The Dogs have Adelaide at AAMI, Geelong and Sydney in Sydney (which is not to be sneezed at). I can see them losing 2 of those games so we could maybe sneak in. I agree though, we're in the sole position for the final spot, its ours if we want it.
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Yeah, definately. This week is like a final fanyway, so we'll get to see if we are genuinely up to the challenge and deserving of a top 4 spot.
I don't agree that a Hawthorn win would have been a good result for us. Their form is so good that a win here could have seen them catching us by the end of the year. They were only a few percentage points behind so a series of wins could have seen them catching us on 14 wins. Now they are two full games behind us and likely to finish on 13.5 wins (14.5 if they win their last five). The Saints have an easy draw coming up, so they will probably end up with 16.5 wins and be out of our reach on the ladder.
Having looked at the fixture extensively, I think we can lose to the Bulldogs tomorrow and still finish above them on 15 wins to their 14. The Hawks game in Tassie is a likely loss but the other four fixtures are all highly winnable. Bulldogs have a tough finish to the year and will struggle to hit the 15 win mark. But of course a win to us tomorrow would close the door on them and the Hawks in terms of a top four finish (Freo 12-5, Bulldogs 10-7, Hawks 9.5-7.5).
For those who think we might struggle in the next six weeks, I think we need just one more win to make finals a certainty. Let's eliminate the possibility of finishing 11-11 and missing the finals like we did in 2004 and 2005, shall we?
And I think just two more wins out of six will be enough for a home final. In this scenario the Bulldogs and Hawks would overtake us into 4th and 5th, but 13 wins and good percentage would be enough to get us 6th and a home final against Sydney, Carlton, North Melbourne or Adelaide. So I think that 6th is the lowest finish we'll end up with in 2010, and thus a home final in 2010 is guaranteed.
Having looked at the fixture extensively, I think we can lose to the Bulldogs tomorrow and still finish above them on 15 wins to their 14. The Hawks game in Tassie is a likely loss but the other four fixtures are all highly winnable. Bulldogs have a tough finish to the year and will struggle to hit the 15 win mark. But of course a win to us tomorrow would close the door on them and the Hawks in terms of a top four finish (Freo 12-5, Bulldogs 10-7, Hawks 9.5-7.5).
For those who think we might struggle in the next six weeks, I think we need just one more win to make finals a certainty. Let's eliminate the possibility of finishing 11-11 and missing the finals like we did in 2004 and 2005, shall we?
And I think just two more wins out of six will be enough for a home final. In this scenario the Bulldogs and Hawks would overtake us into 4th and 5th, but 13 wins and good percentage would be enough to get us 6th and a home final against Sydney, Carlton, North Melbourne or Adelaide. So I think that 6th is the lowest finish we'll end up with in 2010, and thus a home final in 2010 is guaranteed.