Richmonds activity in the upcomming 'Super-draft'

[understudy]

No that is a super pick. The quality of a draft can't be determined by one player.

Perhaps. KP forwards are still the big prize. Judd might be a once a generation player but Jon Brown wins matches too. Gumbleton, Sellar and Hansen are all rated in the Riewoldt class (at the moment). Gibbs is a superb midfielder who could be a star too.

Fair enough. I guess what Im getting at is the quality of the draft isnt what counts for a club, its the quality of their picks and the players they get.

2001 was the last so called 'super draft' was it not? Certainly was for the eagles as they landed Judd in comparison to the saints who picked L Ball with a higher pick.

 

[1980]

The draft is just like the lottery. About as accurate as futures trading.

Sitting around hoping we pick up the next Judd when we are just as likely to pick up the next Anthony Banik or Aaron Fiora.

 

[True Thylacine]

Are we that depressed that we need to be talking about the draft in Round 8? Its good to be prepared I know but FFS!

 

[CoggaRules]

Are we that depressed that we need to be talking about the draft in Round 8? Its good to be prepared I know but FFS!

round 8 vs Crows, what do you want to talk about?
How about we are coming up against the top side, that boasts the number 1 defence by a margin of 10 goals, at at ground that they have carved us up, every time.
Maybe we can help, if its going to rain, we need to send a couple of tigerhaeds to TD, jam the roof rollers so it doesnt close, make it an ice rink, then we might get lucky.

 

[tomthetiger]

Only if they decide to forfeit. Otherwise, theyll smash us anyway

 

[Weaver]

Fair enough. I guess what Im getting at is the quality of the draft isnt what counts for a club, its the quality of their picks and the players they get.

2001 was the last so called 'super draft' was it not? Certainly was for the eagles as they landed Judd in comparison to the saints who picked L Ball with a higher pick.

Saints had a super draft. Got Ball, Dal Santo and Maguire (Montagna might still be handy too. Very definition of a super draft - three key players in one draft. Anytime you get more than 3 good players you are doing well.

The 2001 draft is regarded as a super draft not simply because it had a couple of guns up the top. It is remembered because it was deep with talent.

Ashley Hansen, Sam Mitchell, Campbell Brown, Andrew Welsh, David Rodan, Brad Miller, Dane Swan, Adam Schneider, Brian Harris amongst the names after pick 30.

 

[IDGAF]

Ashley Hansen, Sam Mitchell, Campbell Brown, Andrew Welsh, David Rodan, Brad Miller, Dane Swan, Adam Schneider, Brian Harris amongst the names after pick 30.

Sadly there is one name that stands out there

 

[Bentleigh]

The draft is just like the lottery. About as accurate as futures trading.

Sitting around hoping we pick up the next Judd when we are just as likely to pick up the next Anthony Banik or Aaron Fiora.

Bollocks.

 

[tugga]

Sadly there is one name that stands out there

Would we get anything worthwhile for him?

 

[Bentleigh]

Saints had a super draft. Got Ball, Dal Santo and Maguire (Montagna might still be handy too. Very definition of a super draft - three key players in one draft. Anytime you get more than 3 good players you are doing well.

The 2001 draft is regarded as a super draft not simply because it had a couple of guns up the top. It is remembered because it was deep with talent.

Ashley Hansen, Sam Mitchell, Campbell Brown, Andrew Welsh, David Rodan, Brad Miller, Dane Swan, Adam Schneider, Brian Harris amongst the names after pick 30.

Geelong:

James Bartel,
James Kelly,
Charlie Gardiner,
Steve Johnson,
Gary Ablett Jnr,
Henry Playfair,
Matthew McCarthy,
David Johnson..

Sounds a decent draft to me.

 

[Weaver]

Would we get anything worthwhile for him?

Nope. If we cut him tommorrow the best he could hope for would be an invite to preseason training somewhere.

 

[Bentleigh]

What I am meant to understand, the difference between pick #1 and pick #7 for eg. is a lot less than say in the 2005 or 2004 draft.

And with priority picks gone, I reckon its a pretty crap year to come bottom 4.

I'd like that to be true but im not so sure.

Hansen, Gibbs, Seller & Gumby sound really promising.

Who would we pick up at, say 6-12?

Im not sure if the like of Thorp, Selwood, Riewoldt, Leuenberger, Jetta, Benjamin, Houli are quite in the same class?

 

[tomthetiger]

Not Quite. But one of Thorp, Jetta, Houli would probably suit us.

 

[Bentleigh]

Mitch Thorp impressed me yesterday.

Looks a 'true CHF'.

Alot to like.

 

[Bentleigh]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=251131

 

[Bojangles17]

The draft is just like the lottery. About as accurate as futures trading.

Sitting around hoping we pick up the next Judd when we are just as likely to pick up the next Anthony Banik or Aaron Fiora.

Im hearing ya 1980, bare in mind though that we have emerged from the "Beck" era. Of all the mindnumbing, boofheaded selections that were inspired by this bloke, we'd be lucky to field a competitive side for Bunyip. Would appear there's a little more science to it thesedays which is a leapfrog from studying the herald sun formguide come draft day which was the norm up until miller arrived. Heck, every time the U18 championships came around there was serious consideration amongst the fanatics to bundling up Beck and hiding him in the scoreboard at optus for the duration just in case he had any more stupid ideas....

 

[Richtigerz]

Scott Gumbleton - The guy is a gun.. I want him at Richmond next yr

 

[Weaver]

Im hearing ya 1980, bare in mind though that we have emerged from the "Beck" era.

Beck deserves criticism but more often than not our blunders were inspired by the football department who'd trundle off to one under-18 championship match and decide that we needed Pettifer or Fiora.

When the footy department could be sidelined Beck showed a pretty good eye for talent in the later rounds.

The key we have have at the moment is that Miller is able to tell Wallace he can't just have his icecream (JON, Meyer, Tambling) without eating his broccoli (Polo, Pattison) too.

 

[tomthetiger]

Id prefer you didnt compare Polo to brocholli, but fair point.

 

[Bentleigh]

Id prefer you didnt compare Polo to brocholli, but fair point.

Apparently we'd trade him for Fiora.

 

[Bentleigh]

The key we have have at the moment is that Miller is able to tell Wallace he can't just have his icecream (JON, Meyer, Tambling) without eating his broccoli (Polo, Pattison) too.

No offence dude but I don't you have FA idea about how Richmonds most inner thoughts work.

If you really think Wallce wants to draft nothing but Meyer types but Miller has to interven 'now now Terry, we need a tough centerman and a ruck/kpp type' then you are talking crap.

 

[Infamy]

He certainly has a history of doing so and you speak more crap on here than anyone. I don't think you should be pointing any fingers.

 

[blxx]

the ultimate masterstroke would be securing a first five pick from someone else during trade week. Extremely improbable but not impossible.

If one Greg Miller could grab that unlikely pick off someone it would mean one of the elite players, Gibbs, Hansen, Thorp, Sellar and Gumby in a tiger jumper. Anything else after that is a bonus really.

The draft order isnt really gonna change that much unless something drastic happens and looks to have taken its general form. The real fun now is Trade Week. Too early too run scenarios but we'll have a good idea around round 20 where teams are gonna finish up. interesting times.

 

[Bojangles17]

Beck deserves criticism but more often than not our blunders were inspired by the football department who'd trundle off to one under-18 championship match and decide that we needed Pettifer or Fiora.

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You let him off the hook far too easy weaver, who says they were inspired by the football dept...who says that Beck didnt unequivocaly support his own beliefs that Hudson and Houlihan where the best HFF options bar none. The only .enterprise we saw from Beck was the constant thread in securing F/S at any cost. From Zantuck to Krakeour...."theyre ol man played the game"...hell that must be something...we only stumbled across Newman coz Beck thought it was son of Sam...

 

[eays]

The key we have have at the moment is that Miller is able to tell Wallace he can't just have his icecream (JON, Meyer, Tambling) without eating his broccoli (Polo, Pattison) too.

lol this is one of the funniest things i have read. classic comment and such a home truth. well said.