Richmonds activity in the upcomming 'Super-draft'

[Bentleigh]

Alot has been said, for a few years not about the upcomming draft. Not only is it sposed to be of the highest quailty in its first half dozen picks but the deapth of potential good footballer is also apparently very impressive.

Infact knoblett Sheehan has made some wild claims about the quailty. The Hun recently stated as much up to 12 players would have gone higher than last seasons #1 draft pick Mark Murphy.

I recommend we continue this thread running right up untill draft day.

Fantastic report of the cream of the crop: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225797

 

[sante]

Bit early to be talking Draft picks don't ya think?

 

[Bentleigh]

Bit early to be talking Draft picks don't ya think?

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Bryce Gibbs has been a media whore years. I've been speaking about Mitchell Thorp for a long time now - since I first saw him a couple year ago.

In what is sposed to be such a strong draft were we, a rebuilding club its an important thread to have, me thinks.

 

[jackson_rules]

Perhaps, perhaps not.

Bryce Gibbs has been a media whore years. I've been speaking about Mitchell Thorp for a long time now - since I first saw him a couple year ago.

yeah i agree, its good to have a thread where we can talk and get to know abit about some players before we draft them

 

[Weaver]

No point get excited.

In the past there were maybe 3-4 elite prospects and therefore only the clubs with the top-3 picks would get a Deledio or Cooney.

This year there might be 7-8 elite prospects. That means that a couple of extra teams get a very good player.

Aside from that it is no different to any other year. If anything it is looking like a draft that has some elite guys and then very little of interest in the 30s-40s.

That all translates as Richmond getting a good player with pick 5 which was going to happen no matter what anyway, and getting a player with pick 22 exactly the same as we would get any other year at pick 22.

The whole 'superdraft' image comes from the idea that more recruiting managers are confident of getting a good player with their first selections. In the past there were 1-2 confident recruiters, this year there are 10. That makes it a superdraft. Does NOT mean that we are any more likely to pick up more than 1-2 good players than any other year.

The superdraft thing is very over the top. Quite frankly you'd be hard pressed to find more than 3-4 midfielders in the whole of Victoria worth drafting for example.

 

[Infamy]

Good thing we went for our midfielders already then

 

[IDGAF]

Good thing we went for our midfielders already then

Yeah ... Buddy is really kicking on , who came in for Croad ?

 

[Bentleigh]

Round 1 Fri 31 Mar Western Bulldogs Docklands Stadium[B] Loss 52-167 [/B]
Round 7 Sat 13 May Sydney Docklands Stadium [B]Loss 62-180 [/B]

 

[sante]

True Bents, but we are 3-4 and equal with teams like Geelong and St. Kilda

 

[U2 Tigers]

True Bents, but we are 3-4 and equal with teams like Geelong and St. Kilda

and effectively a game behind them.

But agree season not over yet.

 

[Bentleigh]

Gumby please.

....

Depends a little on who is available. Hansen and Thorp are quite similar to Hughes. I'd take Gibbs ahead of either of them. Having a guy like Gibbs would make it harder to zero in on Deledio making The Brett even more lethal.

On the other hand Gumbleton would be a really good get. Schulz is the gorilla in the goal square, Hughes the mobile Ash Hansen / Tarrant type who leads out to the wings and covers acres. Gumbleton is the perfect guy to add to those two as a genuine CHF who would complement the other two.

Schulz-Gumbleton-Hughes would be a bit handy in 3-4 years time. Going to be very very hard to say no to that.

 

[eays]

despite being contrary to one's natural instincts as a tigers supporter, i think the best (long term) outcome for our club this season would be a finish no higher than 12, thereby ensuring a top 5 pick in the draft. And, best case, the kids show enough in their game time (eg polo) to win us some games, gain experience and preview what they can do for the future.

I look at our list, and there has been a vast improvement (in potential) since the end of 2004. But the list we have isnt going to be good enough to challenge for a premiership IMO. We are still one good draft away i reckon from having a young list that is deep and talented enough to produce enough quality players.

We've done well in the last 2 drafts i think, but with another "good draft" (ie. picking up 2-3 more good quality kids) we will be really setting ourselves up for the future. By all accounts, the first 5-6 picks in this '06 are going to be stars. Whether its a KPP or Gibbs, if we can secure another young gun, and then a very solid player with pick 20'ish, i think we will be in a position to really look forward to things in a fwe years.

Just my thoughts.

 

[Bentleigh]

despite being contrary to one's natural instincts as a tigers supporter, i think the best (long term) outcome for our club this season would be a finish no higher than 12, thereby ensuring a top 5 pick in the draft.

Thats what we call 'Bentleigh-think'.

despite being contrary to one's natural instincts as a tigers supporter, i think the best (long term) outcome for our club this season would be a finish no higher than 12, thereby ensuring a top 5 pick in the draft. And, best case, the kids show enough in their game time (eg polo) to win us some games, gain experience and preview what they can do for the future.

I look at our list, and there has been a vast improvement (in potential) since the end of 2004. But the list we have isnt going to be good enough to challenge for a premiership IMO. We are still one good draft away i reckon from having a young list that is deep and talented enough to produce enough quality players.

We've done well in the last 2 drafts i think, but with another "good draft" (ie. picking up 2-3 more good quality kids) we will be really setting ourselves up for the future. By all accounts, the first 5-6 picks in this '06 are going to be stars. Whether its a KPP or Gibbs, if we can secure another young gun, and then a very solid player with pick 20'ish, i think we will be in a position to really look forward to things in a fwe years.

Just my thoughts.

Mate, you are spot on.

Great post.

 

[tugga]

despite being contrary to one's natural instincts as a tigers supporter, i think the best (long term) outcome for our club this season would be a finish no higher than 12, thereby ensuring a top 5 pick in the draft. And, best case, the kids show enough in their game time (eg polo) to win us some games, gain experience and preview what they can do for the future.

I look at our list, and there has been a vast improvement (in potential) since the end of 2004. But the list we have isnt going to be good enough to challenge for a premiership IMO. We are still one good draft away i reckon from having a young list that is deep and talented enough to produce enough quality players.

We've done well in the last 2 drafts i think, but with another "good draft" (ie. picking up 2-3 more good quality kids) we will be really setting ourselves up for the future. By all accounts, the first 5-6 picks in this '06 are going to be stars. Whether its a KPP or Gibbs, if we can secure another young gun, and then a very solid player with pick 20'ish, i think we will be in a position to really look forward to things in a fwe years.

Just my thoughts.

Will probably need to finish 16th to get Gibbs.

 

[eays]

Will probably need to finish 16th to get Gibbs.

thats quite possible, but mojo's thread on the drafts & trading board, and other reports have this as a draft where the top 5-6 are all outstanding. IMO an outstanding KPP would probably be a better result for us anyway. Let Gibbs go one and a gun KPP slip down a position further so we can get him.

 

[tugga]

thats quite possible, but mojo's thread on the drafts & trading board, and other reports have this as a draft where the top 5-6 are all outstanding. IMO an outstanding KPP would probably be a better result for us anyway. Let Gibbs go one and a gun KPP slip down a position further so we can get him.

You'll get no argument from me. We already have a fair chunk of interstate kids and the go-home factor is always an issue.

 

[lucas_hsv]

You'll get no argument from me. We already have a fair chunk of interstate kids and the go-home factor is always an issue.

I don't think the 'go home' factor is much different to a vic kid wanting to go to a more succesful vic club. If the clubs doing well, the kid will more than likely stay, no matter where they're from, same goes for unsuccessful and leaving.

 

[Infamy]

Thats what we call 'Bentleigh-think'.

Now that's what I call a paradox

 

[understudy]

A super draft is where you land someone like a Judd.

No one like Judd is this draft to be honest.

 

[Bentleigh]

A super draft is where you land someone like a Judd.

So there has only ever been 1 super draft?

And in that 'super draft' had a 4/5/6 of Polak/Clarke/Sampi?

No one like Judd is this draft to be honest.

Is there another player like Judd in the world? (Bar Deledio )

By all accounts Gibbs/Gumby/Hansen/Seller and co. are as highly rated as any draft picks going around at this stage out from the day itself.

 

[tomthetiger]

An oximoron if you will.

 

[Wally Matera]

i think the best (long term) outcome for our club this season would be a finish no higher than 12, thereby ensuring a top 5 pick in the draft.

Your wish will be granted, dont worry. After Saturdays and the inury toll, there is no way in hell of us finishing above 12th.

 

[understudy]

So there has only ever been 1 super draft?

No draft pick has yet produced a premiership. If the eagles win this year it certainly would have been a super draft for them.

Netting a once in a generation player like a Carey or Judd is what I would describe as a super draft for a club.

Does this draft contain a once in a generation player like Judd, i think not.

Not sure when the next once in a generation player will come along but for the lucky club that lands him, it will be what I would describe as a super draft for that club.

 

[Weaver]

Netting a once in a generation player like a Carey or Judd is what I would describe as a super draft for a club.

No that is a super pick. The quality of a draft can't be determined by one player.

Does this draft contain a once in a generation player like Judd, i think not.

Perhaps. KP forwards are still the big prize. Judd might be a once a generation player but Jon Brown wins matches too. Gumbleton, Sellar and Hansen are all rated in the Riewoldt class (at the moment). Gibbs is a superb midfielder who could be a star too.

 

[tomthetiger]

Reiwoldt class? if we recruit another player who cant kick for goal, i dont know what ill do...