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BarcaRulz said:
You guys make it sound like it was this terrible game. I will give you the Stienglien one, it was not a free, but that 'trip' was by accident, the hand slipped and Goodes was already 90% down anyway.
Besides your not the only team to get pushed today, WCE had some bad decisions as well, but you only remember Swans ones because one of them turned out to be dessisive.
Overall yes the whole umpiring thing going on was crap, but WC had as much right to the game as the Swans did.
Accidental trip is a free
Deliberate trip is a report
 
Embers said:
Stenglein free kick was there, Just because it was unusual doesnt mean it wasnt there.

Not according to the head of the AFL umpiring department

"The umpire processed it wrong - Stenglein was entitled to stand the mark, which he was, and Leo Barry's entitled to run past, to run down field to receive the ball or to make some space."

and

"The umpire should have just simply re-set the mark and said, hey, keep out of that area. You stay on your mark and let the play go from there," he said."
 

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bluey17 said:
Small decisions wouldn't have such an impact on the game if you didn't play your pathetic flood, keeping the games so tight and low scoring. Roos was outcoached and you deserved to lose, stop whinging and cop it sweet.

its not just the swans supporters who believe they were robbed its also every other supporter except west coast fans
 
The decisions were appalling. Leo should not have been penalised, Goodes was tripped - accidental or not and I was not a fan of the free paid against Baz earlier for contact with the face.

However, we had opportunities to win it and we didn't. That is what pises me off more than anything. We should have won by 3 goals - the misses in the final Q were shockers. We had to take the goals but we didn't.

Magic's pass to Davis was sublime, one of the best short passes I have ever seen. I wish we could stick Magic on ice over summer so he didn't age. Our tackling was excellent all game, Jude Bolton has to be one the hardest players in the game.

Going foreward, I still see no reason why we won't win the next two weeks of footy. All is not lost, not by a long shot.

The West Coast fans are banging on mabout flooding, but it was a way of containing the tall forewards. And it almost worked.
 
IMO....Swans are still very much a big chance this year. Next week you got Geelong who are ******** and have no forward line. They were lucky today because Meblourne wasnt on the ball. But they will get a very big reality check next week. I'm not sure Scarletts record on Barry Hall but boy will he be fired up to kick a bag. And if not Barry i love the Swans foward line in Davis, O' Loughlin and O'Keefe. If Swans got to the granny and played West Coast the result will be much better for you guys this time. Swans are still my favourite to win Grand Final.

Good Luck Guys :)
 
Last night's game showed us two things..

1. The Swans can beat anyone anywhere and win the GF
2. The umpires sole purpose of existence is to destroy the game of Aussie Rules as we know it.

I'm a Bomber fan living in Sydney so I HAAATE the Swans but they were awesome last night and Blind Freddy knows that last night's game was there's and the pathetic maggots were weak minded idiots paying "crowd" free kicks with gay abandon.

It wasn't just the two obvious ones in the last quarter but it was rife throughout the entire match. Didn't the WCE crowd boo whenever one went against them. Idiots didn't even know they were getting a free ride.

Also have great admiration for Hall & Roos to accept it and not complain about the umpiring. I guess they decided nothing needed to be said in the aftermath because everybody knew it!

Don Hird
 
BarcaRulz said:
You guys make it sound like it was this terrible game. I will give you the Stienglien one, it was not a free, but that 'trip' was by accident, the hand slipped and Goodes was already 90% down anyway.

Yeah, but accidental or not, it warranted a free. Most of the high tackles are accidental, most of the in the backs are accidental.
 
look you guys have milked this more than enough. Umpire mistakes happen all the time, and you cant blame them for everything. The difference was 4 points, and if Sydney hadnt turned the ball over so much, or played like ******** in the las quarter, and didnt miss their chances they would have won.

So stop this, and start blaming the team. There was ONE mistake by the referee, there was liek 30 clangers by your team.. thats what you should be looking at.
 

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BarcaRulz said:
So stop this, and start blaming the team. There was ONE mistake by the referee, there was liek 30 clangers by your team.. thats what you should be looking at.

2 clanges by umpires (not referees)
 
BarcaRulz said:
Did you count how many times a Sydney player took the ball over the line on purpose? Or dropped it one purpose? The bad decisions went both ways.

pocketrocket#24:
please dont be an idiot.. if your so proud collingwood beet us once then go dream about it, and then wake up and realise that their not even in the finals. The 'trip' incindent would have been a free if:
a) Goodes was actually in a position to gather the ball
b) If Goodes wasnt already practically on the ground
c) If Goodes didnt jump forward to make it look like a trip

he milked it for all it was worth.

Bull********. Open your one eye.
 
these umpires make me sick to my stomach. I feel that I have violent intentions towards these maggots. If I saw Mclaren or any of his mates in the street I would consider hurting them.
 
big bear said:
Bull********. Open your one eye.

No you open yours mate. Not every decisions goes for you, niether does everyone go against you. If this had happened in the Cats-Dee's game nothing would have been said at all (and dotn say it would cause im still waiting and no one said ******** about Kents goal from 50 AFTER the goal line). Just because it was SO close it doesnt mean it was that much bigger a difference. Sydney gave up the right to complain when they made so many mistakes and gave so many turn overs. Had this been the only thinkg holding you back then you can bitch about it as much as you want.

All Sydney had to do was attack, but they sat back and defended... heres some advice YOU DONT DEFEND AGAINST A TEAM WHOS ATTACK SUCKS.. and because you sat because then the Swans have only themselves to blame. Be a big boy and accept it.
 
I can never, ever understand how footy supporters can ever blame the umpires for a result (yes, Eagles fans do it too, and it annoys me to no end). A game of footy is apparently made up of 10,000 separate events, both on and off the ball, and to try to disregard all these things and put it down to the umpires is stupid.

The Stenglein free-kick wasn't there. It's pretty obvious. But when he kicked it, the Swans were still in front. If the umpire hadn't made the decision, who know what might have happened? You can't just subtract the 6 points and say "we would have won by x points", because that too would be stupid.

In the end, the Swans didn't have the legs to run out the game. They put up an incredible fight, gave us a great match, and the Swans fans made alot of noise. That's why the majority (bar the idiots) applauded the team as they went down the race.
 

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patsmith said:
The Stenglein free-kick wasn't there. It's pretty obvious.

My God an Eagles fan who admits that :eek:

But when he kicked it, the Swans were still in front. If the umpire hadn't made the decision, who know what might have happened? You can't just subtract the 6 points and say "we would have won by x points", because that too would be stupid.

I agree with that, the decision didn't have the impact many people a hyping it up to be, but I will say the knock on effect was huge. Instead of a clearing kick and a possible attack towards our goal, the Eagles got a lucky free kick and resulting goal and while not putting them in front, swung momentium their way big time. Easier to defend a 9 point lead rather than a 3 point lead wouldn't you say?

Still the Goodes missed trip was a bigger call because instead of the Swans having a rightful shot on goal the Eagles managed to clear the ball out of defence and into their forward line quickly which resulted in the winning goal to Sampi. I think that decision had a bigger impact and is being overlooked because people aren't putting two and two together on that passage of play.

I think if the right calls were made on the night then we would of just held on but they weren't, but the result can't be changed so I rather just focus upon the decision making itself and say good game West Coast and move on to our match with Geelong next week and leave it at that.
 
Most Eagles fans agree that the free kick didnt exist, but im pretty sure that everyone is firm on the Goodes one not being a free kick. I cant see how an ump would give a 'trip' call to someone who was already 90% down, and had no chance of getting the ball, and was milking the whole scene more than a farmer milks his ********in cow.
 
BarcaRulz said:
Most Eagles fans agree that the free kick didnt exist, but im pretty sure that everyone is firm on the Goodes one not being a free kick. I cant see how an ump would give a 'trip' call to someone who was already 90% down, and had no chance of getting the ball, and was milking the whole scene more than a farmer milks his ********in cow.

Quite easy, Goodes was tacked (and if he didn't have the ball as you claim then should he then be paid a free kick for holding the man) below his knees.

As an umpire myself, we were told that a trip must be paid regardless of whether a player is already "falling" to the ground because he was tackled below the knees in the process of going for the ball, which as I saw it last night was the case regardless of what you thought Goodes was doing in the top paddock.
 
Why does everyone get so excited with bad umpiring decisions. Somehow, they are supposed to be perfect when everyone else running around on the field are continually making incredibly stupid skill and judgement errors.

Your (and our) stars who are paid far more than the umpires were making much worse mistakes. You want to lay blame for the loss, start looking at the players. Some of the kicks for goal were a disgrace.
 
Cmon man, the tackle SLIPPED to there.. do u still pay it then? Wirra tackled Goodes normally, Goodes jumped forwrd, didnt reach the ball, was already down, the tackle slipped. It should never be paid.
 

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