Roger Federer is not the GOAT

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Because she has more slams than anyone currently playing ;)

Federer has some catching up to do, but father time will beat him!
Consider as well Federer has beaten Nadal and Djokovic through his career, who are arguably top 5 all time players themselves.
Has Serena done the same?

She's the greatest female player of all time, no doubt.
Federer is the greatest player of all time, period.
 

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Why not ? All are professionals on the same money, all have two arms and two legs. Would be a good opportunity for Federer to challenge Serena.
Serena would struggle to win a game against Federer. It’s just the natural difference between men and women.
The entire field of women would be knocked out in the first round of the tournament unless they are facing another woman.

It’s fine as it is, play against your own sex.
 

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Consider as well Federer has beaten Nadal and Djokovic through his career, who are arguably top 5 all time players themselves.
Has Serena done the same?

She's the greatest female player of all time, no doubt.
Federer is the greatest player of all time, period.
IF he ends up with the most slams of any player he has the right to say that.

Until then

He's just Federer

:)
 

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IF he ends up with the most slams of any player he has the right to say that.

Until then

He's just Federer

:)
Yeh, this just makes you look ignorant. Ignorant of opponents, ability, style of play, place in history compared to other legends, and the general fact one would beat the other convincingly.

One is undoubtedly the best female player, the other is undoubtedly the best player without any distinctions attached.

Where Federer has consistently beaten those next best icons in Nadal and Djokovic, each who would have won a lot more slams without Federer such is their ability. Serena has missed Graff and Navratilova, shes beaten up on a weaker field than Federer has. There are no equivalent Raffas or Novaks she has had to overcome.
 
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Yeh, this just makes you look ignorant. Ignorant of opponents, ability, style of play, place in history compared to other legends, and the general fact one would beat the other convincingly.

One is undoubtedly the best female player, the other is undoubtedly the best player without any distinctions attached.

Where Federer has consistently beaten those next best icons in Nadal and Djokovic, each who would have won a lot more slams without Federer such is their ability. Serena has missed Graff and Navratilova, shes beaten up on a weaker field than Federer has. There are no equivalent Raffas or Novaks she has had to overcome.
You can only beat who you have in front of you. Fedexpress will be stuck on 20, Serena is way ahead on 23. Therefore Serena is better than Roger.
 

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You can only beat who you have in front of you. Fedexpress will be stuck on 20, Serena is way ahead on 23. Therefore Serena is better than Roger.
By comparing them head to head you clearly believe Serena would beat Roger in tennis?

What is your beef with Federer? You have a clear hatred towards him.
 

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You can only beat who you have in front of you. Fedexpress will be stuck on 20, Serena is way ahead on 23. Therefore Serena is better than Roger.
Serena has beaten up on an era without greats, she missed thr greats if womens tennis. Federer has beaten guys who would have 25+ slams if not for him.

Besides, you can only say Serena is the greatest with the *female asterix. Federer needs no asterix. Why? Because if they played head to head Federer is winning easily. Or do you actually think otherwise? That puts the of all time arguement to rest if you go down to that level.
 

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Serena has beaten up on an era without greats, she missed thr greats if womens tennis. Federer has beaten guys who would have 25+ slams if not for him.

Besides, you can only say Serena is the greatest with the *female asterix. Federer needs no asterix. Why? Because if they played head to head Federer is winning easily. Or do you actually think otherwise? That puts the of all time arguement to rest if you go down to that level.
He is comparing them head to head by saying she is the greatest of all time. Men v women, 3 set matches to 5 set matches. As Serena has said herself, Men’s and Wimens tennis are almost totally different sports.

Having said that Extreme is entitled to his view even with 95% of the universe not agreeing with him. It’s just his opinion.
 

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Still not the GOAT of tennis overall ;) And he won't be getting a 21st grand slam let alone a 25th to be truly called the GOAT

:D :D :D
Tennis overall is either men’s tennis or women’s tennis, they are not the same and basically two different sports.
He is the greatest ever in his field. By your own definition if you hold the most slams in your field then surely he is the GOAT in his field.
 

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They are the same sport, you hit a ball over a net!

Federer doesn't have the overall slam record and he won't get there :D
Great, so same sport Federer would absolutely roger Williams and the best player wouldnt even be a contest, glad you have clarified it for us.
 
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