Rooke return round 20

[FTW_]

Re: Rooke return?

Plenty of good chases on the weekend which affected kicks.

Varcoe also made a lot of mistakes...

 

[Slick Dog Johnson]

Re: Rooke return?

That I do agree on, we do have different opinions of Kelly. He did have a very average game on the weekend, however I really think that he has played extremely well this year and is in our best 22.

Where we can fit Max in ?? I'd most likely say Varcoe, as Max too can tackle like a man possessed. Sure doesn't have the speed of Varcoe, but when recently has Varcoe used that speed in a positive manner ??


Look I like Varcoe also, however if it meant a pass from Kelly or Trav coming in, I'd know who'd I would want it coming from, same goes for Rooke, rather him in, Trav out.

Agree with Shane Warne (the German).

 

[Ricketts]

Re: Rooke return?

Varcoe also made a lot of mistakes...

German was talking about Varcoe using his speeed.

 

[FTW_]

Re: Rooke return?

German was talking about Varcoe using his speeed.

Varcoe is using speed?

Nah, Varks is good when it comes down to chasing a man down but once he catches up to him he tackles - sometimes too high and sometimes he makes a silly mistake.

 

[Slick Dog Johnson]

Re: Rooke return?

Varcoe is a reactive player at the moment. He doesn't know how to demand the ball. If the opposition have the ball, Varcoe is comfortable. That's not what you want.

However, he does have some serious pace, and an unbelievable set of hands, so there is clearly more than enough there to work with, I just don't think he is in our best 22 at this stage, which will more than likely be available to us in the near future.

 

[Rosso]

Re: Rooke return?

Strongly disagree with you there I'm afraid. It's one of the things he DOES NOT do.

He ran past the contest on more than a few occasions on Sunday. If it was Stokes, he would've put his head over the ball and at least make a contest. Yes Trav's defensive pressure is great but he certainly didn't put his body on the line over the weekend.

 

[CF]

Re: Rooke return?

travis is going to be terrific player for us....the experiment of having travis play as a defensive forward has worked for most of the year, but his effectiveness has diminished recently. I think this has a lot to do with the opposition having worked him out ie he is a one trick pony to a certain extent. While I am a big fan of him I just wonder how he will be in finals. With his current role I just think that he may prove a weak spot in our finals campaign. I think if Rooke is fit he would be much better value as a defensive forward than Varcoe at this stage. Rooke may not be as quick, but he wont let his opposition player run off him to create an extra loose man as much. He also will kick more goals than Travis. For me Rooke (if he is fit) should get the nod ahead of Trav.

 

[Claude Balls]

Re: Rooke return?

Different players, bad change.

How about this?

Out: Kelly

In: Rooke

Kelly is soft and continually turns the ball over. When max is back, i would love to see this change.

Bad idea Hoff

Kelly is regaining form, and if you remember the finals series of '04 and '05, he was one of our best performed players. He was joint - BOG for us in the '05 semi against the Swans, along with Scarlett (IIRC). I think he could well have something to offer come finals time... and he certainly isn't soft.

I would just wait and see how Rooke goes in the 2's first, before hypothesising about who to drop. It may become evident over the next two weeks who Rooke should come in for, so lets not do any players a disservice by writing them off too quickly.

 

[kriso182]

Re: Rooke return?

Thompson said Rooke will be playing VFL this week.

 

[cozdawg#09]

Re: Rooke return?

Different players, bad change.

How about this?

Out: Kelly

In: Rooke

Kelly is soft and continually turns the ball over. When max is back, i would love to see this change.

that's a terrible call... james has been carving up on the hff lately, setting up a lot of goals and running hard to put pressure on the opposition and push up the ground to add a link/alternate option... his form this year has more than warranted his selection and is far from soft... also his disposal by foot has been pinpoint at times

 

[CF]

Re: Rooke return?

Rookes injury status is listed as "Test" this week so good news his return may be very close now.

 

[Catter]

Re: Rooke return?

Rookes injury status is listed as "Test" this week so good news his return may be very close now.

Apparently hopfull of playing at the QEO this weekend.

 

[Prismall32]

Re: Rooke return?

Apparently hopfull of playing at the QEO this weekend.

Hope this works out OK - friend in Bendigo says that the surface of the QEO is still like basalt.

 

[Catter]

Re: Rooke return?

Hope this works out OK - friend in Bendigo says that the surface of the QEO is still like basalt.

It has improve in the last week. In the local rag, they said it "should" be right. Looking forward in seeing the two's this week.

 

[CF]

Re: Rooke return?

Chris bradshaw said he is training well and if he gets through training this week he will play at Bendigo this week...stated on SEN today

 

[Ricketts]

Re: Rooke return?

Varcoe is a reactive player at the moment. He doesn't know how to demand the ball. If the opposition have the ball, Varcoe is comfortable. That's not what you want.

I'd go as far as to say that's exactly what i'd want.

I wouldn't want Varcoe demanding the ball. Why would you when there are 5 other forwards plus anyone else in the area that would serve the team better if they demanded the ball?

Varcoe is in the side as the crumbing forward. Crumbing forwards aren't there to demand the ball. (i'll acknowledge that he hasn't been doing much successful crumbing of late, although did i hear the commentators say he had 3 assists in the Adelaide match?)

The other half of his job is to chase and tackle (which is reactive) and i think he's always done this well, including last week V the Roos.

 

[Slick Dog Johnson]

Re: Rooke return?

I'd go as far as to say that's exactly what i'd want.

I wouldn't want Varcoe demanding the ball. Why would you when there are 5 other forwards plus anyone else in the area that would serve the team better if they demanded the ball?

Varcoe is in the side as the crumbing forward. Crumbing forwards aren't there to demand the ball. (i'll acknowledge that he hasn't been doing much successful crumbing of late, although did i hear the commentators say he had 3 assists in the Adelaide match?)

The other half of his job is to chase and tackle (which is reactive) and i think he's always done this well, including last week V the Roos.

Fair point, but you can't have a guy that, when it is his turn to put his body on the line and grab a hard ball, doesn't do it.

What I was referring to with what you don't want, is the comfort when the other team has the ball. He doesn't want it for himself, he will let them get it and then see what happens from there. Mackie was shocking at this last year. I repeat, you DO NOT WANT IT.

 

[TonyModra]

what happened to max?

Sorry I've heard about all his treatment...and I watched the game when it happened...however i haven't heard how severe it was, can anyone who knows please tell me?

Im assuming it didn't tear it right off or he would have missed a year like Lloyd did, other than that can't see why he missed 8 weeks

 

[Cohzee]

Re: what happened to max?

^^Hes been having issues with his hammy for ages now.

I just want him back. We will need him come finals. Favourite player for me.

 

[Geminicatz]

GEELONG defender Max Rooke is set to make his return to competitive football on Sunday when he runs out for the club's VFL side in Bendigo.
Rooke will play his first game since round 13, and since returning from Munich where he underwent radical treatment on his troublesome hamstring.
"I'm a little bit nervous about it, but excited as well," Rooke told gfc.com.au.
"Hopefully I can get through a game without any injuries – that would be nice."
The club decided to send Rooke to Germany last month in an attempt to shelve the hamstring problems that have plagued his season.
The 25-year-old spent 11 days in Munich under the care of soft-tissue specialist Dr Hans-Wilhelm Muller-Wohlfarth, who administered approximately 70 injections of anti-inflammatories and extracts of calf blood into Rooke’s hamstring.
So far, the treatment appears to have been a success.
"I'm feeling pretty fit. I've been doing a lot of training and working pretty hard," Rooke said.
"Obviously coming back from a big break, you're never going to be 100 per cent match-fit, because you can't prepare for match fitness; it just takes time.
"I feel pretty good, like I'm ready to go."
Rooke is hopeful he'll be fit enough to be considered for selection as Geelong gears up for its finals campaign in coming weeks, but he doesn't want to get too excited just yet.
"I really don't know. It just depends how I go on Sunday," he said.
"I'm only really worried about, first of all, getting through the game injury free, and that's about my only aim at the moment.
"I'd like to get back [for the finals], but … I haven't played for about eight weeks.
"Right now, I'm just happy to be back playing."

 

[kendall_cedric]

Can't wait for the Rookemeister to get back in.