Rookie Draft Value to The Crows

[WaynesWorld19]

It seems that with financial pressures being felt by most Vic clubs - some participating only in a limited way in the rookie draft - the AFC has (along with other wealthy clubs) an advantage in the Rookie Draft:

1. The Crows have the finances not only to take their full allocation of rookies BUT can also pay the relocation costs for interstate rookies that other clubs may bulk at.

2. As a result most Vic clubs will choose local product leaving the SA clubs principally to rookie from the cream of SA boys (with the eagles the major club who seem to also like SA boys)

3. The Crows are almost the most successful club at elevating some very good players off the rookie listing

Thoughts?

 

[Stiffy_18]

1. I agree completely. We are financially strong enough to pick the best available player regardless of where they come from. Last year we had 3 players from interstate on our rookie list.

2. I agree to a point. Eagles are one team that like SA players but from Victorian clubs Collingwood is in a very similar position as us where they can pick the best available kid regardless of where they come from. Unfortunately, they have their picks before we do. Fortunately for us, they can't distinguish between quality and ******** to save themselves

3. Certainly in recent times we have done well with the rookie list. West Coast also have a few quality players off their rookie list. Freo aren't too shabby in this regard either. It would appear though that clubs who have solid recruiting people and are financially well off, get the best results from the rookie list.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Let's not get too carried away fellas. We have 1 good year ( 2001 )with the rookie draft in at least the last 7 years.

 

[Vader]

Let's not get too carried away fellas. We have 1 good year ( 2001 )with the rookie draft in at least the last 7 years.

And whilst we did well from that Rookie Draft, we bombed out spectacularly in the National Draft - AKA the "Super Draft".

 

[outback jack]

3. Certainly in recent times we have done well with the rookie list. West Coast also have a few quality players off their rookie list. Freo aren't too shabby in this regard either. It would appear though that clubs who have solid recruiting people and are financially well off, get the best results from the rookie list.

agree we have the best recruiting record in the afl atm.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

And whilst we did well from that Rookie Draft, we bombed out spectacularly in the National Draft - AKA the "Super Draft".

Yep, we sure did.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

And whilst we did well from that Rookie Draft, we bombed out spectacularly in the National Draft - AKA the "Super Draft".

And don't forget the 2003 draft

Watts - Gone
Krueger - Gone
Hudson - in suspension

 

[Crow-mosone]

i think you need one first rate player drafted every year. don't care whether it's nd, psd or rookie.

you can have filler, role players etc. but one real result every year is not a bad effort.

we got that in 2001/03

 

[Mego Red]

i think you need one first rate player drafted every year. don't care whether it's nd, psd or rookie.

That is an interesting question. I imagine how many players you need depends on the average career (eight years?), which means the list needs to pretty much renew itself every eight to ten years, which I suppose means you need two good players every year, plus list filler ...

 

[Crow-mosone]

That is an interesting question. I imagine how many players you need depends on the average career (eight years?), which means the list needs to pretty much renew itself every eight to ten years, which I suppose means you need two good players every year, plus list filler ...

you forgot trading

 

[Mego Red]

you forgot trading

- which is a pretty useless activity in our league. It makes for an interesting comparison with, say, the NBA or MLB, where teams can be overhauled through trading or free agency. In the AFL, smart drafting and list management (as well as developing the assets you have) is much more important, because you have fewer options.

 

[Crow-mosone]

- which is a pretty useless activity in our league. It makes for an interesting comparison with, say, the NBA or MLB, where teams can be overhauled through trading or free agency. In the AFL, smart drafting and list management (as well as developing the assets you have) is much more important, because you have fewer options.

the AFL system is a short sighted, over-regulated system that fails on it's basic premise of providing equity and parity to all.

This is particularly apparent when compared to other, more efficient sporting leagues globally.

The point of a moneyball like scenario is that a team with limited resources can compete by being smarter, which is an option not provided for in AFL. Sure there are plenty of Rob Babcock's/Isiah Thomas' who need to be saved from themselves - but when you prevent them from making active decisions (regular trading/free agent signings etc.) you achieve 2 things: 1. that they will never shoot themselves horribly in the foot 2. that they have no chance to 'better' themselves and become more competitive.

The only thing that is free and unregulated in the league is brains and it's application, and when you put an embargo on that, the only currency is $$$$. which is entirely counter-productive to the stated aims of the league.

 

[Crow-mosone]

In the AFL, smart drafting and list management (as well as developing the assets you have) is much more important, because you have fewer options.

Let's not forget there is an almost undeniable link between the size of your football department and onfield success. this is as a direct result of the few options available - you have to mind deeper into these limited avenues, and that costs $$$.

 

[conVINCEd]

Let's not forget there is an almost undeniable link between the size of your football department and onfield success.

Not always.

Exhibit A - Collingwood Football Club.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Not always.

Exhibit A - Collingwood Football Club.

are you kidding?

they made 2 grand finals in recent years off the back of very average talent.