Rookies

[graham]

Any talk of how the rookie camp is going and who is likely to get picked up??

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Haven't heard much mate but i'm hoping there maybe a suprise or 2 left for us. I think if Port grab Zantuck or Blumfield ( my monies on Z ), we should be able to rookie list either a Grundy or Pearce.

BTW Welcome Aboard.

 

[macca23]

Any talk of how the rookie camp is going and who is likely to get picked up??

Hi graham, and welcome.

It's been very quiet on this front as it should be. I'd be annoyed if the Crows went to all this trouble and then told the whole world who they really fancied - it just won't happen.

I'm confident that we'll do pretty well out of the rookie draft.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Hi graham, and welcome.

It's been very quiet on this front as it should be. I'd be annoyed if the Crows went to all this trouble and then told the whole world who they really fancied - it just won't happen.

I'm confident that we'll do pretty well out of the rookie draft.

If recent form of our recruiting people is any indication, then we should do fine

 

[conVINCEd]

macca23, going by the way we treated the National Draft, we will probably pick three rookies who haven't even trained with us.

Before November 20, all the media was certain we would choose either Monfries, Wood or Bate with #8, and we fooled them all.

I'd love to get Grundy onto our rookie list, and another couple of midfielders - Bain and Jesse D. Smith sound like quality.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

I agree I would love to see Port pick up Zantuck or Blumfield just so that stops Pearce or Grundy being picked up.

I would love to snap up one of these two and I think we have a good shot at it. Dont have a preference as I dont know enough of them.

Glad to see the Crows though being so in depth and getting so many kids to try out.

 

[Stiffy_18]

macca23, going by the way we treated the National Draft, we will probably pick three rookies who haven't even trained with us.

Before November 20, all the media was certain we would choose either Monfries, Wood or Bate with #8, and we fooled them all.

I'd love to get Grundy onto our rookie list, and another couple of midfielders - Bain and Jesse D. Smith sound like quality.

I don't think we fooled them with pick 8 selections. James Fantasia has said if Meesen wasn't there we would have most definetly gone with Wood. Meesen was someone we didn't think we would get because we thought it was very unlikely he would have been there with our pick.

Its not a matter of us fooling anyone, it was just a matter of getting a player we rated higher than who we thought we would most likely end up with.

Having said that, I am very pleased with the games we have played this year when it comes to drafting.

I think we will pick up at least 2 of the rookies training with us. Ch10 mentioned something about us picking up a rookie as an insurance policy for Stevens. Grundy comes to mind but looking at our "strategy" so far we would probably go with Pearce

 

[Stiffy_18]

Any talk of how the rookie camp is going and who is likely to get picked up??

Welcome aboard mate

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

What have you been doing with yourself Graham? I see you have been a member since February but have only posted 11 times?

 

[graham]

i only post usefull things i am not one who likes to bulls@#t on. inside word that i have got to is that andrew bawden is a 80% chance of being one of the 3 rookies...

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Ch10 mentioned something about us picking up a rookie as an insurance policy for Stevens. Grundy comes to mind but looking at our "strategy" so far we would probably go with Pearce

Stiffy they mentioned they would pick someone with his build as insurance, but cant be taken seriously as a rookie cant match Stevo's experience and wouldnt play before anyone we just drafted.

Welcome graham.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Stiffy they mentioned they would pick someone with his build as insurance, but cant be taken seriously as a rookie cant match Stevo's experience and wouldnt play before anyone we just drafted.

True but the way Grundy plays his footy is similar to how Stevo plays his. Grundy is very well built for an 18 year old and has played for Norwood seniors for a couple of years now. So if (and I hope its not the case) Stevo breaks down then Grundy could be seen as a reasonable "replacement" on the list but not neccessarily in the side

I am looking forward to rookie draft. It will be very interesting to see just what sort of players we pick up. Personaly, I think picking up another ruckman would be a bit too much even for my liking

 

[WaynesWorld19]

True but the way Grundy plays his footy is similar to how Stevo plays his. Grundy is very well built for an 18 year old and has played for Norwood seniors for a couple of years now. So if (and I hope its not the case) Stevo breaks down then Grundy could be seen as a reasonable "replacement" on the list but not neccessarily in the side

I am looking forward to rookie draft. It will be very interesting to see just what sort of players we pick up. Personaly, I think picking up another ruckman would be a bit too much even for my liking

Stiffy with 3 Rookie picks and one Ruckman on the Rookie list already, I would have to veto any pick of a further Ruckman.

IIMO we need a KPP and couple of midfielders - who we get of course is dependant on the draft lottery, but Vic clubs have historically gone with homegrown talent for their Rookie lists - particularly the "cash strapped" ones

 

[conVINCEd]

Stiffy with 3 Rookie picks and one Ruckman on the Rookie list already, I would have to veto any pick of a further Ruckman.

IIMO we need a KPP and couple of midfielders - who we get of course is dependant on the draft lottery, but Vic clubs have historically gone with homegrown talent for their Rookie lists - particularly the "cash strapped" ones

Totally agree WW, which is why I'm keen to pick up Grundy, Bain and Smith.

A lot still to happen before everything is sorted however.

Edit - just remembered that Fisher will most likely be rookied.

 

[tinman]

Totally agree WW, which is why I'm keen to pick up Grundy, Bain and Smith.

A lot still to happen before everything is sorted however.

Edit - just remembered that Fisher will most likely be rookied.

I think that Fisher must be a very strong chance of being rookied, and he probably deserves to be. Having him there is useful as he is in the physical condition to play in the event of a long term injury. This allows us to maybe take a player like Pearce with another selection and have a good look at him while he builds himself up.

I think that Pearce's size was the likely reason he wasn't drafted, and he will be a hot commodity as a rookie with a few clubs interested.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I think that Fisher must be a very strong chance of being rookied, and he probably deserves to be. Having him there is useful as he is in the physical condition to play in the event of a long term injury. This allows us to maybe take a player like Pearce with another selection and have a good look at him while he builds himself up.

I think that Pearce's size was the likely reason he wasn't drafted, and he will be a hot commodity as a rookie with a few clubs interested.

I think your point regarding Fisher is a very valid one. IMHO, AFC will go with at least one "ready made" player on the rookie list and thats why I think that Fisher and/or Priddis are genuine chances of getting picked up.

As you said Pearce is the sort of player clubs drool over in the rookie draft the question is whether or not he will be on AFC rookie list or somewhere else.

I think that 1st pick in the rookie draft is very important.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Stiffy with 3 Rookie picks and one Ruckman on the Rookie list already, I would have to veto any pick of a further Ruckman.

IIMO we need a KPP and couple of midfielders - who we get of course is dependant on the draft lottery, but Vic clubs have historically gone with homegrown talent for their Rookie lists - particularly the "cash strapped" ones

Spot on WW - 2 midfielders & 1 KPP is what we need to balance the squad. Fisher, Pearce & Grundy would be good, but I doubt all 3 will be available.

 

[macca23]

I think your point regarding Fisher is a very valid one. IMHO, AFC will go with at least one "ready made" player on the rookie list and thats why I think that Fisher and/or Priddis are genuine chances of getting picked up.

As you said Pearce is the sort of player clubs drool over in the rookie draft the question is whether or not he will be on AFC rookie list or somewhere else.

I think that 1st pick in the rookie draft is very important.

I think that both you and tinman have it pretty right about a Fisher/ Priddis being at least one, maybe two of the rookies, as they are probably at a stage that they could actually play AFL in the evnt of injury on the main list.

Hopefully teams all go for experience in the PSD and the Vic teams concentrate on local Vic boys in the rookie draft, and we end up with Grundy, Pearce and one of Fisher/Priddis as our 3 rookies.

If we managed to do that, you'd have to think there's at least 1 future AFL player in that lot.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I think that both you and tinman have it pretty right about a Fisher/ Priddis being at least one, maybe two of the rookies, as they are probably at a stage that they could actually play AFL in the evnt of injury on the main list.

Hopefully teams all go for experience in the PSD and the Vic teams concentrate on local Vic boys in the rookie draft, and we end up with Grundy, Pearce and one of Fisher/Priddis as our 3 rookies.

If we managed to do that, you'd have to think there's at least 1 future AFL player in that lot.

I would do a happy dance if we got those 3 players rookie listed.

Realistically at best I think we can hope for 2 of them. I read somewhere that Eagles were pretty keen on Priddis so don't be surprised if WC pick him up first up if we overlook him with pick 5.

I am quietly confident that Fisher would be there to pick @ 37. The question is who do you take with pick 5, Pearce or Grundy or someone completely different?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Spot on WW - 2 midfielders & 1 KPP is what we need to balance the squad. Fisher, Pearce & Grundy would be good, but I doubt all 3 will be available.

With our position in the Rookie draft being B4 Port, I think we'll get the choice pick of those 3.
Fisher having just been deleted of Melb rookie list you would think would last to us if we want him.


So IYO who would you take with your first pick, knowing it's the only pick your going to have any real control over

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I am quietly confident that Fisher would be there to pick @ 37. The question is who do you take with pick 5, Pearce or Grundy or someone completely different?

Given our list is full of talls, I would say first pick should be a midfielder - because thats our biggest area of vulnerability if Ladhams, Bode, Schuback, Skippy, Shirley don't produce.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Given our list is full of talls, I would say first pick should be a midfielder - because thats our biggest area of vulnerability if Ladhams, Bode, Schuback, Skippy, Shirley don't produce.

Fair enough but since this draft has been apparently good for talls then do you take a potential replacement for Stevens in Grundy or do you go for a project like Pearce.

I think the "ready made" midfielder will be picked up with either our 2nd or more likely 3rd pick.

I think Fisher could last until pick 37 considering that he has nominated for the ND and go overlooked.

At this stage I would pick up Pearce with pick 5 if he is there. I think this kid can be anything.

 

[macca23]

With our position in the Rookie draft being B4 Port, I think we'll get the choice pick of those 3.
Fisher having just been deleted of Melb rookie list you would think would last to us if we want him.


So IYO who would you take with your first pick, knowing it's the only pick your going to have any real control over

I've gone half mad trying to decide on this one.

Grundy, Pearce! Pearce, Grundy! I change every day. I'm sure the Crows will get it right though. Maybe it won't even be one of these 2.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

With our position in the Rookie draft being B4 Port, I think we'll get the choice pick of those 3.
Fisher having just been deleted of Melb rookie list you would think would last to us if we want him.


So IYO who would you take with your first pick, knowing it's the only pick your going to have any real control over

It's a tough one between Grundy & Pearce. If we pick Pearce & Grundy is taken by another club, are there many other KPP options for our 2nd round? In the end we probably just have to pick the best player regardless.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Fair enough but since this draft has been apparently good for talls then do you take a potential replacement for Stevens in Grundy or do you go for a project like Pearce.

I think the "ready made" midfielder will be picked up with either our 2nd or more likely 3rd pick.

I think Fisher could last until pick 37 considering that he has nominated for the ND and go overlooked.

At this stage I would pick up Pearce with pick 5 if he is there. I think this kid can be anything.

Yes a strong draft for talls but all the really good ones are gone - to us

Any replacement for Stevens breaking down would come from our current listed talls - why would you resort to the Rookie list????

First pick has to be for the player with best chance to be upgraded, and probably a midfielder - Is pearce that player or one of the others at our camp ? - Bock has had good writeups as well, the others I'm vague on.

2nd and 3rd picks are more speculative (see project in AFL dictionary) players.

Fisher IMO would be available late in the Rookie draft if we want him.