Autopsy Round 13, 2026: Hawks get leashed

[JoeHawk]

We were the better team throughout the game, just managed to not miss so many opportunities. 1.11 from 14 shots in a half is remarkably poor finishing.

Combine that with the Lewis injury, the Lewis non-mark, Ginni’s non-50, and them getting 6 goals from free kicks.. eh.

Hope we get them in finals, we’ll flog them.

If you’d offered me 8-4-1 and top 4 going in to the bye with a full list to pick from after the bye I’d have ripped your hand off taking that.

No need to panic.

And high tackle on Newk that was called HTB and resulted in a goal. It was hard enough watching our dismal kicking but were given no favours by the umps, unlike bulldogs who had about 4 goals gifted to them.

 

[eldorado]

Glad I missed this game.

Probably not worth me watching the replay.

Same here...

I think I'm getting most of the picture here...

 

[smeltitdeltit]

1.11 in the second half has three culprits-

Players for innacuracy
Dogs for pushing us wide
Coach for the long high entry kicks that crept in.

 

[kazzooka]

Needs to be called out then the person banned from both attending football and holding any form of membership.

And people who know him or employ him can see the behaviour.

That being said, I don't know why any player is accepting messages from strangers. The setting is there, use it.

 

[Elhawko]

That’s 6 points we’ve left out from not kicking straight then dropping our heads and not working hard defensively.

Almost certainly costs us any shot at top 2 and could easily cost us top 4.

If we had stuck at it in both games and kept the pressure on, it would have eventually turned our way and we’d be 8 points clear of 4th.

Yep. It's not the loss itself that matters - I don't care what anyone tries to say, we were clearly the better side but we kicked like novices again and that is the only reason we lost - it's the ladder position we have thrown away that really rankles.

And the worst thing of all? Someone here will raise expected score again and then this thread will really turn ugly!

 

[Kuuz]

Well its a bit like the Wizard missing his first 20 shots at goal. Once he shook that off he never looked back If you're going to pick one thing that can turn quickly it's your conversion, certainly as opposed to your entire mid field and defensive game plan. I think statistically it has to turn at some point. Getting Gunston, Barrass and Nash back wont hurt either. The truth is we would need to pinch the flag this year anyway. We are quite a bit off Freo even though we sort of pushed them in Perth. Their best is significantly better than ours. These losses make that even more clear to me and i see this year as a bit of hail mary. We need to be very deliberate in how we improve in the off season though if we want to be a flag favourite in 2027.

I just don’t buy that at all, and that’s just an excuse to make us feel better now about a performance that just wasn’t good enough.

We ARE good enough to win the cup. Anyone in the top 4 is. Freo and Sydney are not unbeatable, and Freo only beat us in the final 5 minutes.

But accuracy is not a light switch. It requires painful repetition, hard work and sacrifice - and it feels like that is being lost on some who seem to think they are better than they are right now, in the squad.

Comparing our teams accuracy, to that of Wiz in his first year - who was just suffering from nerves - is not a good faith comparison, and again, hides a real deficiency in this side.

I remember listening to Hoyne on Champion Data bemoan for years that the Demons were doing everything right - except their accuracy in front of goal was abysmal…for years. It killed any finals campaign.

We need to stamp out this rut quick, or it does eventually kill a finals push - regardless of whether you believe we’re a chance this year, next year or 2030

 

[Stottzy]

Can I just say in defence of Watson, the ball wasn't exactly going forward a lot in the 3rd and in the last, they had him and Day resting on the bench. Could have at least moved him in the middle when we were getting flogged in clearences and to just get him close to the ball. Thought that was again, poor by Mitchell.

 

[Rioli2Gunstall]

Goal kicking was a joke and some of the stupid handballs and shit but my god the umps gave them a 20 minute head start on the 2nd half. Never seen a more brazen evening up of Friday night football, umps made sure it lived at their end and really played them back into it.

The most annoying thing that was so incredibly obvious was every time a hawk took a mark the opponent would ride them to the ground or hold up play in some way, that should be 50m every time but the umps just let them get away with it all night, much like they let them get away with throwing the ball in the 2016 finals series.

 

[NewkTheLot]

Well the game we have pencilled in to lose, we must now win.

Gold Coast away.

Haven’t won at Carrara since our 2014 premiership year. 100+ point smashing.

KOLOKOTRONIS

99 points. I know because I was there. Barely played them there since.

 

[seysearles]

I just don’t buy that at all, and that’s just an excuse to make us feel better now about a performance that just wasn’t good enough.

We ARE good enough to win the cup. Anyone in the top 4 is. Freo and Sydney are not unbeatable, and Freo only beat us in the final 5 minutes.

But accuracy is not a light switch. It requires painful repetition, hard work and sacrifice - and it feels like that is being lost on some who seem to think they are better than they are right now, in the squad.

Comparing our teams accuracy, to that of Wiz in his first year - who was just suffering from nerves - is not a good faith comparison, and again, hides a real deficiency in this side.

I remember listening to Hoyne on Champion Data bemoan for years that the Demons were doing everything right - except their accuracy in front of goal was abysmal…for years. It killed any finals campaign.

We need to stamp out this rut quick, or it does eventually kill a finals push - regardless of whether you believe we’re a chance this year, next year or 2030

I don't think Mitchell isn't doing that. You think he glosses over the fact that we have been accurate. The truth is that they have probably addressed it in a multitude of ways but its not consistently amounting to anything in game.

 

[fpm84]

Silencing people never does what you want it to do. The problem doesn't go away it makes him and people like him feel like the victims and eventually that manifests in a backlash. I bet if you asked Chol he would laugh it off. Just like people constantly mock Watson for being short which is also an immutable characteristic.

Chol’s clearly not laughing off being racially abused, he’s calling it out and literally saying “don’t be like this guy.”

The ‘supporter’ or more likely, degen gambler, should be tracked down and banned from holding a club membership (if he has one) and attending games.

Disgusting behaviour and I feel sick that Mabior is forced to deal with this shit.

 

[JoeHawk]

Injured his knee and cant get it right.

We will never know how close TB, Nash and Gunner were to playing tonight but geez id hate to miss top 2 or top 4 by a game and find out we were just being conservative.

Also think it's time to put the Hardwick forward thing to bed and just pick a forward if Gunston misses. We saw it early last year, he just isnt effective when opponents can study what he will do.

Agree but we don’t have crazy options. Dear is continuing to struggle and Ramsden isn’t the answer. Perhaps McCabe? Unfortunately our depth players are not quite AFL quality and those younger ones currently given opportunities still need time.

 

[CobberRodgers]

Silencing people never does what you want it to do. The problem doesn't go away it makes him and people like him feel like the victims and eventually that manifests in a backlash. I bet if you asked Chol he would laugh it off. Just like people constantly mock Watson for being short which is also an immutable characteristic.

Nah plastering this clown all over social media is exactly what needed to happen.

Now he can deal with the backlash. Hopefully that includes issues with his employment.

You can’t get away with that rubbish and nor should you.

 

[KOLOKOTRONIS]

You are a nilhist

Especially whilst on the elliptical at the gym.
I get a lot of strange looks as people don’t understand what the hell im watching yet still cursing at the screen in greek.

I’ll watch the game again tonight on the watchafl app. It’s effectively fox footy channel for wogs abroad

KOLOKOTRONIS

 

[PenAndPaper]

That sounds far too authoritarian to me. Just let him waffle to himself like a loon.

That's a ****ing horrible take.
1. No repruscussions means the ****wit thinks he can keep doing it.
2. He's not waffling to himself, he's directly being a racist campaigner to someone for absolutely no reason.
3. He's not a loon, he's a ****ing racist prick who should be fired from his job and banned from all sporting events for life.

 

[HeHateMe]

Hasn't Chol done a post like that in the past and this isn't the first time, I'm sure he has kept countless others private but hasn't stopped them.

Yeah Chol had moments he wants back but was hardly a poor performance and tbh better than the other talls we had go through that area for a few different reasons.

I'm sure it has to feel a little bit racial for him considering everything which is soooo disappointing. I'm glad he feels loved enough internally that he can share.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Can I just say in defence of Watson, the ball wasn't exactly going forward a lot in the 3rd and in the last, they had him and Day resting on the bench. Could have at least moved him in the middle when we were getting flogged in clearences and to just get him close to the ball. Thought that was again, poor by Mitchell.

Mitchells biggest coaching issues are that he is very data driven and wont stray from the plan until its too late as a result. Blind Freddy could see hardwick forward wasnt working, yet he was kept there until the 3rd. Blind Freddy could also see sicily was about to lose it. An easy swap should've been done.

It also means the likes of Watson and day were kept on the pine because the data said they should only play xyz minutes to maintain efficiency in their game

 

[Xtreme]

Some of the melts here are pretty laughable.

We dominated the game but failed to capitalise which is absolutely frustrating but saying that we
"not a serious football team" is just plain wrong and frankly stupid.

I disagree as a serious football team would be more accurate in front of goal. Hawthorn is fast becoming late golf era Tiger Woods..... all that's missing is an affair scandal (the insccuracy in front of goal is the car crash).

A serious team doesn't do a Sicily and mock celebrate when the opposition scores a goal against the team he's captaining.

A serious team shouldn't be doing ridiculous hand slapping routines after goals get scored. Save the Chevy Chase Europesn Vacation body slaps after the siren when the game is won.

 

[Rioli2Gunstall]

Honestly I think the Jordan Croft block decision cost us the game, was the worst umpiring decision of the year

Completely turned the momentum of the game

Yep was it number 42 ump? Bloke has no idea or barracks for dogs

 

[fpm84]

phantom Geelong supporter popping his head up in our forum to lecture us on racism?

Lecturing on racism? This issue is far bigger than club loyalties and I’m embarrassed for you if you can’t see it that way.

 

[PenAndPaper]

Silencing people never does what you want it to do. The problem doesn't go away it makes him and people like him feel like the victims and eventually that manifests in a backlash. I bet if you asked Chol he would laugh it off. Just like people constantly mock Watson for being short which is also an immutable characteristic.

**** me, you've had an even worse take.
Who cares if he feels he's a victim? He's not.
It manifests in a backlash? What kind of backlash? The racist campaigner being a racist campaigner like he already has been?

Ita pretty clear Chol isn't laughing it off, when he's calling it out. Stop ****ing excusing this racist ****.

 

[CobberRodgers]

Whos this phantom Geelong supporter popping his head up in our forum to lecture us on racism?

Doesn’t matter who he or she follows, they’re absolutely right

 

[grumbleguts]

Y

You’re falling into the trap of reputation vs output. He’s had one good game this year and was awful most of last year.

he's been in the coaches votes twice.

 

[HeHateMe]

Lecturing on racism? This issue is far bigger than club loyalties and I’m embarrassed for you if you can’t see it that way.

Appreciate you post, wasn't lost on me. Im feeling for Chol as well it's unfortunate he feels targeted for whatever reason.

 

[grumbleguts]

99 points. I know because I was there. Barely played them there since.

was there too.