Preview Round 23 vs Dons

[Chrispiesssss]

Looks like we are playing on the Friday night. Possibly a top 4/home final guaranteed match. It’ll be interesting.

 

[gappa]

How long since there’s been a game between us that’s really mattered? Seems like yonks.

 

[Kappa]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Stoods]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

boo-urns?

 

[nahnah]

No Daniher kicking from 70 metres and playing his one good game for the year, easy win

 

[Carringbush2010]

Where will we lose more %age this one or the Richmond game?

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Where will we lose more %age this one or the Richmond game?

If you outscore the opposition your % really should go up.

I’m not very good a playing defeatist. Pointless angst for me anyway.

 

[sr36]

If you outscore the opposition your % really should go up.

I’m not very good a playing defeatist. Pointless angst for me anyway.

Only if you outscore it by more than you usually do. I prefer to presume that the poster was suggesting that those games will both be close narrow wins. Due to the closeness of the heroic wins by the Pies, there will be slight drops in our percentage.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Why are we stopping the previews here? Why can’t we get a thread up for Round 14 v Fremantle at Optus next year?

 

[beez]

Let's hope it goes the way of the Rd 22 game in 2003. Friday night. Pies looking to secure top two. Dons looking to grab a top four spot. Tight all night. So tense. Pies win the arm wrestle with a strong last quarter and triumph by 16 points.

Still one of my all time favourite commentary bits was a kick into the F50 from Scotland with Eddie the supporter calling the Tarrant mark a second before it hits his chest.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Still one of my all time favourite commentary bits was a kick into the F50 from Scotland with Eddie the supporter calling the Tarrant mark a second before it hits his chest.

Ah, before he became an eye gouging campaigner.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Only if you outscore it by more than you usually do. I prefer to presume that the poster was suggesting that those games will both be close narrow wins. Due to the closeness of the heroic wins by the Pies, there will be slight drops in our percentage.

That is correct.
Very fair point.

As a very basic rule of thumb, sides in the middle parts of the ladder fighting for too 8 etc; sides sitting nearer 100% are basically gaining 1 % point for 20 points scored ahead of opposition or losing 20 points the other way.

Very basic rule of thumb.

Ofcourse that’s the % at the end of the season when it may count sure to tied ladder points.

 

[Carringbush2010]

If you outscore the opposition your % really should go up.

I’m not very good a playing defeatist. Pointless angst for me anyway.

Only if you outscore it by more than you usually do. I prefer to presume that the poster was suggesting that those games will both be close narrow wins. Due to the closeness of the heroic wins by the Pies, there will be slight drops in our percentage.

But you have to outscore the opposition for %age to go up, ours has been going down from over 120 to 111 now. Math will tell you is that we've been losing more than winning.

Given the two oppositions mentioned, the form they're in, the form we're in - injuries on top, external noises etc. To have unwarranted optimism or even desperate hope........ well you're better individuals than I and I commend you both.

 

[sr36]

But you have to outscore the opposition for %age to go up, ours has been going down from over 120 to 111 now. Math will tell you is that we've been losing more than winning.

Given the two oppositions mentioned, the form they're in, the form we're in - injuries on top, external noises etc. To have unwarranted optimism or even desperate hope........ well you're better individuals than I and I commend you both.

We've gone back to trying to run the ball with hamdball. If that clicks and a couple of our dangerous forwards return to the team or return to being dangerous. Its once again game on.

 

[Carringbush2010]

We've gone back to trying to run the ball with hamdball. If that clicks and a couple of our dangerous forwards return to the team or return to being dangerous. Its once again game on.

Again that is optimistic, to do that is to "flick the switch" into form. Of course the - potential - is there, even with all the injuries because it is the system that is so revered not the personnel.

But we haven't seen that "system" all year apart from a qtr and a bit against wc. The rest of the year we've been massaging the ball in an attempt to perfect control - not working and to just all of a sudden return to that 2018 form that the comp feared is not a case of "oh well let's do that this week".

 

[sr36]

Again that is optimistic, to do that is to "flick the switch" into form. Of course the - potential - is there, even with all the injuries because it is the system that is so revered not the personnel.

But we haven't seen that "system" all year apart from a qtr and a bit against wc. The rest of the year we've been massaging the ball in an attempt to perfect control - no working and to just all of a sudden return to that 2018 form that comp feared is not a case of "oh well let's do that this week".

Yes it's optomistic, but to write us off this week is very pessimistic, to write us off for the Essendon game, is ridiculously pessimistic. I would go as far as saying its delusionally pessimistic.

 

[jackcass]

But you have to outscore the opposition for %age to go up, ours has been going down from over 120 to 111 now. Math will tell you is that we've been losing more than winning.

Given the two oppositions mentioned, the form they're in, the form we're in - injuries on top, external noises etc. To have unwarranted optimism or even desperate hope........ well you're better individuals than I and I commend you both.

It was only as recently as R11-13 that the Tigas had 3 consecutive loses. The wheel can turn pretty quickly.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Yes it's optomistic, but to write us off this week is very pessimistic, to write us off for the Essendon game, is ridiculously pessimistic. I would go as far as saying its delusionally pessimistic.

Pessimistic sure I'll admit but you also have to admit that to defeat those teams would take a very different form line to do so. Something that doesn't just happen in the time required to defeat them.

If that does surprisingly come to pass then questions would have to be asked of the opportunities missed last week, the hawks, north, freo. Hell the form of the whole season.

 

[Carringbush2010]

It was only as recently as R11-13 that the Tigas had 3 consecutive loses. The wheel can turn pretty quickly.

But we haven't played our brand nearly all season, it'd be surprising if we all of a sudden turned on that swarm spread of last year that is required. I hope you're right Jack.

 

[sr36]

Pessimistic sure I'll admit but you also have to admit that to defeat those teams would take a very different form line to do so. Something that doesn't just happen in the time required to defeat them.

If that does surprisingly come to pass then questions would have to be asked of the opportunities missed last week, the hawks, north, freo. Hell the form of the whole season.

I'm already asking questions about the change in ball movement and midfield running patterns that occurred at the beginning of the year. I'm also asking questions of the decision to put Mayne and Crocker into our forward line in recent weeks. But viewing Essendon in 5 weeks as a game where we have little chance is way OTT. We'll go in outsiders against the Tigers, but a victory won't be as big an upset as the Prelim was. Its a very winnable game. With our current outs, all our guns have to fire, because we're carrying a fair few passengers, but our guns firing and getting us across thd line occurred only a fortnight ago, so it's not actually that unlikely.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I'm already asking questions about the change in ball movement and midfield running patterns that occurred at the beginning of the year. I'm also asking questions of the decision to put Mayne and Crocker into our forward line in recent weeks. But viewing Essendon in 5 weeks as a game where we have little chance is way OTT. We'll go in outsiders against the Tigers, but a victory won't be as big an upset as the Prelim was. Its a very winnable game. With our current outs, all our guns have to fire, because we're carrying a fair few passengers, but our guns firing and getting us across thd line occurred only a fortnight ago, so it's not actually that unlikely.

But our guns aren't firing, haven't been all year apart from rare fits and starts (Grundy aside the only consistent). What tells you that this will turn around all of a sudden, do you know something the rest of us don't? Or are you being desperately hopeful?

 

[sr36]

But our guns aren't firing, haven't been all year apart from rare fits and starts (Grundy aside the only consistent). What tells you that this will turn around all of a sudden, do you know something the rest of us don't? Or are you being desperately hopeful?

This season, other than Gold Coast supporters, no supporter hopes of weekly success are desperate or unjustified. Every team goes in with a realistic chance.

 

[jackcass]

But we haven't played our brand nearly all season, it'd be surprising if we all of a sudden turned on that swarm spread of last year that is required. I hope you're right Jack.

Game against the Bears the closest we've come to putting 4 quarters together this year but we've certainly had periods within games where we've played to our full potential.

 

[nahnah]

Let's hope it goes the way of the Rd 22 game in 2003. Friday night. Pies looking to secure top two. Dons looking to grab a top four spot. Tight all night. So tense. Pies win the arm wrestle with a strong last quarter and triumph by 16 points.

Still one of my all time favourite commentary bits was a kick into the F50 from Scotland with Eddie the supporter calling the Tarrant mark a second before it hits his chest.

Ed should still commentate our games

 

[Darkyprotector]

Mayne and Crocker are filling holes
We've been slaughtered with run out of opposition backlines
Not much speed there now

We're in a bad way
Opposition know if you sit on the skipper and reduce Sidey we've been forced to pay peter instead of paul playing jdg in the guts

Weakens the forward line