VFL Round 3 - Collingwood vs Essendon at Victoria Park (Pies lost 48-133, Cloke kicked 2 goals)

[Ari]

We lose tomorrow and we are officially in crisis.

No, if you lose tomorrow errr today, you officially get a new coach. Can't be a bad thing.

Cloke wasn't great, but was also starved of opportunity for three quarters. Was a bit of a waste out there after quarter time.

Let's hope we can get a good close match today guys!

 

[Pedro]

Cloke wasn't great, but was also starved of opportunity for three quarters. Was a bit of a waste out there after quarter time.

The problem with not trying to get him involved in the game is now what do we do with him? He was dropped to "find form" or whatever. He did not do that. Recalling him after that will be a bigger joke than dropping him in the first place.

 

[good4footy]

Not really sure what cloke was meant to do today. He was given no supply.

Personally i thought it was a horrible decision to drop him. He hasnt been playing well, but neither have any of our forwards. At least he takes the heat off moore.

He probably faced a tougher opponent today in grima than he wouldve got tomorrow in gwilt or hartley...with an ordinary team around him. Not sure how that is meant to build his confidence.

I personally just wouldve given him a week to get over the elbow injury and have a solid week of training

To me, the decision to drop him smacked of a decision based on making a statement to appease the circling media and impatient fans.

I wouldve backed him in.

What's done is done. Now we have an awkwars choice with what to do with him. Its hard to bring him in based on that performance, but if moore and cox do nothing then we have no choice.

Sorry mate love your posts normally but that post I can't agree with. He got the least disposals of anyone on the ground. At the very least that means there were 5 other Pies forwards of lesser talent also 'starved of opportunity' that got more.

That was a disgraceful effort - as i have stated previously he is emotionally shot - nothing can go wrong in his life without him dropping his bundle for that year. Grima is suburban footy fit because of the late call up to the bombers and he still couldn't get off him.

I don't think I have been more angry at a Pies player as I am of him. We need him and he is sooking whilst being handsomely paid. Instead of people having a crack at the club for dropping an under performing player how about we place his axing where it belongs -directly at his feet.

 

[TheSierBear]

LOL according to stats Cloke was WOG.

 

[Jonno94]

Broomhead looked mentally checked out of the club. I dont blame him, comes out of contract at the end of the year.

 

[pablo disco bar]

Broomhead looked mentally checked out of the club. I dont blame him, comes out of contract at the end of the year.

Isn't that great to hear...bloody hell

I was there yesterday at least there was alot of talent watching the game....

 

[Kappa]

Broomhead looked mentally checked out of the club. I dont blame him, comes out of contract at the end of the year.

The only players who look like they're still trying is Adams Treloar Greenwood Varcoe.. pretty much the guys we've traded in in the last few years.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Wyatt had double Cloke's possessions and 4 x as many marks.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Wyatt had double Cloke's possessions and 4 x as many marks.

For a convert and a 1st year player, he shows a little bit.
Still a long way off but worth persisting with I think

 

[TradeDraft]

Very Damming Stats for Cloke

 

[Kappa]

Wyatt had double Cloke's possessions and 4 x as many marks.

FFS give him a break! it's Cloke's 1st year in the system, he is still learning the game.

Oh wait

 

[Baird]

FFS give him a break! it's Cloke's 1st year in the system, he is still learning the game.

Oh wait

He's just getting used to the structures of the VFL team

 

[Collingwoodity]

Personal attacks on a new poster for no reason. I suppose you beat up kids on the way from school too. Look out people tough guy alert!

Put on the ignore list long ago...

 

[Kirby]

Broomhead looked mentally checked out of the club. I dont blame him, comes out of contract at the end of the year.

I think he always looks like that. He's never looked like he has mentally checked in.

My main criticism of him is his inconsistency, from week to week and within games (he can go missing for large periods).

 

[Collingwoodity]

Broomhead looked mentally checked out of the club. I dont blame him, comes out of contract at the end of the year.

So Broomhead returns from injury last week in the VFL and has a BOG performance. That performance is not rewarded with selection by Buckley.

However, in the same breath Blair retains his place after 4 average games and Maynard is gifted a game after sub-standard performances all year.

Cue the following week's VFL match: Broomhead seems disinterested/disheartened in a thumping loss.

Hardly surprising.

 

[mattys123]

Crocker with one of the better 9 possession games you'll see.

Should debut soon you'd think, would benefit from being in a team where the ball actually goes forward every now and then.

 

[mike123]

Sorry mate love your posts normally but that post I can't agree with. He got the least disposals of anyone on the ground. At the very least that means there were 5 other Pies forwards of lesser talent also 'starved of opportunity' that got more.

That was a disgraceful effort - as i have stated previously he is emotionally shot - nothing can go wrong in his life without him dropping his bundle for that year. Grima is suburban footy fit because of the late call up to the bombers and he still couldn't get off him.

I don't think I have been more angry at a Pies player as I am of him. We need him and he is sooking whilst being handsomely paid. Instead of people having a crack at the club for dropping an under performing player how about we place his axing where it belongs -directly at his feet.

Yet Cloke kicked more goals than any other forward on our team.

 

[good4footy]

Yet Cloke kicked more goals than any other forward on our team.

You are better than that.

 

[mike123]

You are better than that.

While I'm at it, Cloke played in a side that got flogged and bare got the ball forward and kicked two goals. Moore and Cox kicked 3 combined in a side that dominated the other team.

 

[good4footy]

While I'm at it, Cloke played in a side that got flogged and bare got the ball forward and kicked two goals. Moore and Cox kicked 3 combined in a side that dominated the other team.

Really. We can argue till the cows come home about how they did it against better opposition, how they actually got more possessions and score assists, how he got the least disposals in a VFL game of footy including our other forwards etc etc

The actual discussion should be based on the fact that he didn't get dropped because of goals or lack off, but hard work, effort and confidence. To try and mount an argument on behalf of Cloke based on just goals from a 5 possession game in the VFL is not at your normal standard of posting.

I really want him to get back as he makes us a better team when he is on but that game on the weekend has no excuse. He was terrible.

 

[eth-dog]

Yet Cloke kicked more goals than any other forward on our team.

You do realize that one was a missed pass that somehow managed to roll through for a goal, right?

 

[sirlothie]

Broomhead looked mentally checked out of the club. I dont blame him, comes out of contract at the end of the year.

Broomhead is always aloof. He always looks a million miles away.

 

[Apex36]

Broomhead looked mentally checked out of the club. I dont blame him, comes out of contract at the end of the year.

Not sure if you've actually ever paid attention to Broomy, but that's his bog standard look. Kicks a goal in the seniors and then looks like his Mum just died.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Not sure if you've actually ever paid attention to Broomy, but that's his bog standard look. Kicks a goal in the seniors and then looks like his Mum just died.

Whereas Sidebottom is the exact opposite. If Steele's Mum died, he'd probably still run around with a dopey looking smile on his face!