Preview Round 5 2018: Sydney Swans v Adelaide Crows

[Punts]

I would think Aliirs confidence is down right now

 

[Wolftone]

Dropping Aliir we are going in with a short defence, something that is a bit of a worry against Adelaide.

Exactly. I think it is suicide on a dry day. Pies got away with it because they knew it would rain. If it didn't the result may not have been as good.

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[Jeffers]

Possibility of rain/storms tomorrow, i can understand us going a smaller backline for flexibility.

 

[SilentHunter_]

and even against Adelaide's very depleted midfield I do not trust our midfield to win the contest. They have been beaten in every match so far this year.

They've been beaten outside the contests. We've faired well in contested possessions so far.

 

[RUNVS]

They smashed Port for more than half a game.

I am talking about the entire game. Being able to beat an oppositions midfield for half the game doesn't really cut it.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Anyway our mids have no bloody excuses this week. However Sloane has come over to Sydney. Don't rule out a late change.

He's not an emergency. Can't play.

 

[TheWhiteRhino]

I am talking about the entire game. Being able to beat an oppositions midfield for half the game doesn't really cut it.

Well, if you even it out over the whole game, our midfield won. They were not beaten as you said

 

[SilentHunter_]

He's not an emergency. Can't play.

My bad! So absolutely no excuses then.

 

[RUNVS]

Possibility of rain/storms tomorrow, i can understand us going a smaller backline for flexibility.

Just checked and there is a 40% chance of rain tomorrow but even if it does rain weatherzone is expecting less than 1mm of it, so practically nothing. It is going to be either a dry, or slightly damp game, nothing more.

 

[Wolftone]

He gave him a go last week and he was average.

That's crap. Horse knew he was underdone and played him. He did the same last year. It's as though Horse wants him to fail.

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[caesar88]

Anyway will be great to see Gary out there on Friday night. Will have 35,000+ people all behind him.

 

[TheWhiteRhino]

and if the game is played in the dry?

They're still not going to be able isolate 4 forwards in the forward 50.

Our game against North last year without Grundy was the perfect example of this.

 

[cinderella man]

Which isn't rocket science considering he's a defender.

Horse is punishing Aliir for his own stupidity.

Horse may be punishing himself for his own stupidity. Unless there is something going on with this bloke we don't know about, imo the kid is being treated and developed poorly. In 2016 he was best 22 all day long with some crying over the fact we lost a massive part of our winning opportunity for the GF when he was injured. Now after sleeping in and an ordinary start to last year where he was no ******* orphan mind you, he is seemingly pushing shit up hill to retain the opportunity to be an AFL Player.

Longmire takes sets against blokes imo and the proof is the pudding with Mitchell and now Allir. When Mitchell gets the Brownlow hung around his neck this year one of the greatest **** ups in the clubs history since trading Carey to North for 6 V Stubbies and a stale packet of ******* Colvan chips should be recognised. Before anyone comes at me with Coaches don't take sets against players you can stick that where the sun don't shine because I foolishly done it myself when I Coached. Stamping young players papers and putting a line through them is piss poor coaching.

 

[momentbymoment]

Anyway our mids have no bloody excuses this week. However Sloane has come over to Sydney. Don't rule out a late change.

He is checking out the Swan's training grounds.

 

[Superstar swan]

People are forgetting how good he was in 16....he was played out of position as a forward decoy to free up buddy and horse drops him! Way to instill confidence.

"Hey mate we need you to play a role you have never played before and basically we just want you to compete and drag a player out of buddys way.....na aliir your shit go back to neafl "

Its going to hurt us when aliir walks out

 

[cinderella man]

Probably with no respect to be honest

What happened to You ??? You used to be quite a solid poster. To much Whacky Tobaccie ??? You have NFI. Grundy will destroy Jenkins.

 

[Wolftone]

Worked okay for Collingwood last week. They went in with one tall defender Dunn.

It just happened to be very wet in Adelaide last week. Crows went in far too tall for a wet day. It is not going to rain tomorrow no matter how many rain dances I try.

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[Superstar swan]

We have no other " tall" capable of playing down back...very smart dropping aliir horse

 

[Punts]

Aliir was imo one of the best running defenders coming up in the comp , was talked about in the media more often than not

Talent is there , I’m struggling to see how he is not in our defence

 

[caesar88]

Horse may be punishing himself for his own stupidity. Unless there is something going on with this bloke we don't know about, imo the kid is being treated and developed poorly. In 2016 he was best 22 all day long with some crying over the fact we lost a massive part of our winning opportunity for the GF when he was injured. Now after sleeping in and an ordinary start to last year where he was no ******* orphan mind you, he is seemingly pushing shit up hill to retain the opportunity to be an AFL Player.

Longmire takes sets against blokes imo and the proof is the pudding with Mitchell and now Allir. When Mitchell gets the Brownlow hung around his neck this year one of the greatest **** ups in the clubs history since trading Carey to North for 6 V Stubbies and a stale packet of ******* Colvan chips should be recognised. Before anyone comes at me with Coaches don't take sets against players you can stick that where the sun don't shine because I foolishly done it myself when I Coached. Stamping young players papers and putting a line through them is piss poor coaching.

I think he just does not like the type of player that Aliir is, which is attacking and instinctive. But where great coaches (ie Clarkson) would play Aliir in a way that takes advantage of that instinctive type of player, Horse just wants to drill him into a hard-edged Blood.

For example if we had Luke Breust right now on our list, he would be playing in the NEAFL because he's soft as **** and Horse wouldn't tolerate it. Meanwhile a 300-goal smaller forward would be wasted.

 

[momentbymoment]

People are forgetting how good he was in 16....he was played out of position as a forward decoy to free up buddy and horse drops him! Way to instill confidence.

"Hey mate we need you to play a role you have never played before and basically we just want you to compete and drag a player out of buddys way.....na aliir your shit go back to neafl "

Its going to hurt us when aliir walks out

I think that's only half the story.
The other half is that Melican has been undroppable. So we either go 3 talls, perhaps freeing Rampe or Mills up, or Allir has to wait for Grundy's retirement.

 

[Punts]

I’ll be spewing and jealous if he leaves

 

[RUNVS]

I think that's only half the story.
The other half is that Melican has been undroppable. So we either go 3 talls, perhaps freeing Rampe or Mills up, or Allir has to wait for Grundy's retirement.

Grundy isn't going to be around in 2 years time and at this rate Aliir is going to request a trade at the end of the year. I would not blame Aliir for requesting a trade as he is being treated terribly by Longmire.

 

[momentbymoment]

Grundy isn't going to be around in 2 years time and at this rate Aliir is going to request a trade at the end of the year. I would not blame Aliir for requesting a trade as he is being treated terribly by Longmire.

My vote would be to go 3 talls.
Personally I would love to see Rampe in the midfield.

 

[Wolftone]

Honestly I think Aliir is gone at the end of the year. Horse clearly plays favourites. Think he's over Aliir.

Yep and that is why Draft Horse will NEVER win another premiership. Because he does play favs. Other than the fact he inherited a great team and has produced a mediocre outcome. One premiership. One massive loss when favourite. One loss to a side that should not have even been there.

This season is another non event.

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