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[blueboy25]

Last couple of times i have been getting really bad knee soreness the next day 1st time it took me almost 8 days to get over it 2nd time it has taken me 2 days to get over it thats after anti inflams and icing every night

Going for a scan which my physio has asked me to do bit worried about it anyone had any experience with something like this ?

About 3 years back I had the same type of thing but happened when I was playing footy. My knee would blow up after training on a tuesday night, I would ice it, take anti inflams and just some general rest to get the swelling down. Attempt to play on the saturday and by half time my knee had blown up again.

The physio sent me to a specialist who sent me for a MRI. The scan showed that I had:
- Chondral fragments- small loose bodies of bone within knee joint
- Oedema surrounding MCL- fluid in knee joint caused from injury
- Patella/femoral maltracking- knee cap moves laterally (to the side)

Plus I no longer had any cushioning between the bones that make up my knee and work as a sponge or shock absorber.

He gave me two options:
1 - quit football and stop running and take up cycling and swimming (his recommendation)
2 - no running for 3-4 months and try and strengthen my quad muscles.

As a 29yo (at the time) giving up running was not a option I really wanted to consider so I decided on option 2 and my knees have been pretty good (touch wood) after giving them a rest of 4 months. I run most days and quite a bit of hill and stair work.

I know in time that I will need to get my knee cleaned up and possibly more.

 

[BEEG]

About 3 years back I had the same type of thing but happened when I was playing footy. My knee would blow up after training on a tuesday night, I would ice it, take anti inflams and just some general rest to get the swelling down. Attempt to play on the saturday and by half time my knee had blown up again.

The physio sent me to a specialist who sent me for a MRI. The scan showed that I had:
- Chondral fragments- small loose bodies of bone within knee joint
- Oedema surrounding MCL- fluid in knee joint caused from injury
- Patella/femoral maltracking- knee cap moves laterally (to the side)

Plus I no longer had any cushioning between the bones that make up my knee and work as a sponge or shock absorber.

He gave me two options:
1 - quit football and stop running and take up cycling and swimming (his recommendation)
2 - no running for 3-4 months and try and strengthen my quad muscles.

As a 29yo (at the time) giving up running was not a option I really wanted to consider so I decided on option 2 and my knees have been pretty good (touch wood) after giving them a rest of 4 months. I run most days and quite a bit of hill and stair work.

I know in time that I will need to get my knee cleaned up and possibly more.

Cheers for that hope its not this the only thing i can say thats probably different is the pain does not come until the next day i could keep running at training but give it some hours later its terrible

Only positive i could think of is that it actually does not become swollen its more just the pain inside and around the knee and that the pain has gone away much quicker then the first time how long would it take you each time to get over it?

 

[blueboy25]

Cheers for that hope its not this the only thing i can say thats probably different is the pain does not come until the next day i could keep running at training but give it some hours later its terrible

Only positive i could think of is that the pain has gone away much quicker then the first time how long would it take you each time to get over it?

It would probably take 3 days of icing, anti inflams and compression to get the swelling down before I would attempt to play or train but would then blow up again within 60 mins of any running. After 3 attempts I was seeing the specialist.

 

[BEEG]

It would probably take 3 days of icing, anti inflams and compression to get the swelling down before I would attempt to play or train but would then blow up again within 60 mins of any running. After 3 attempts I was seeing the specialist.

Only difference i can say that mine do not really blow up its more a pain inside around the joint this happens the next day more so he said the struture seems to be ok not much movement so will soon find out

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Trying to do 13km/h for 5km at the moment (on treadmill).

Been doing 12s and 12.5 - just gotta make the jump for the full amount of time.

I know doing 5ks isn't the most efficient way of training, but I'm not out to break any records.

 

[Copeland]

Started Running first time a couple weeks ago pulled up very sore 1st time but since then i have been ok

Last couple of times i have been getting really bad knee soreness the next day 1st time it took me almost 8 days to get over it 2nd time it has taken me 2 days to get over it thats after anti inflams and icing every night

Going for a scan which my physio has asked me to do bit worried about it anyone had any experience with something like this ?

It almost feels as if the knee is weak does not hurt when i squat but will hope when i get out of a chair or sometimes even cough goes right around the knee

I Have arthritis in the knees but your symptoms sound different.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Hey Copeland, thanks for directing me here.

Well done on the PB today - sounds like you pushed yourself hard and got the reward!

I started running about 7 years ago. I needed to get fit. I got up early one morning, started the stop watch, then I went outside and I ran and I ran and I ran until I could run no longer. Stop

30 seconds.

I stretched it out further and further each day and after eight months I ran the Sydney marathon and did alright. I've generally kept the running up over the years but it's taken its toll on the body. I strugged for a while, but then started to get into a routine with yoga last year and that helped a lot.

I have a couple of standard 10km runs around here I live. My PB is a tad over 36 mins. I was doing around 45 around the middle of last year. At the moment I'd struggle to get under 55.

I haven't been out for about three weeks (stinking hot or thunderstorms or have been sick). You've inspired to get up early in the morning and get back into it!

I'm doing my first triathlon in a month. It's a short course one and it's social so I'll take it easy. I swim quite a bit so that won't be a problem, but I don't own a bicycle so I'll have to sort something out there.

 

[nicky]

My osteo told me to quit running as it's really bad for you.... that was enough for me.

 

[Freakie]

My osteo told me to quit running as it's really bad for you.... that was enough for me.

This is true, I now have patella tendonitis from running 2500km a year for 15 years...

 

[nicky]

This is true, I now have patella tendonitis from running 2500km a year for 15 years...

Yeah, i've given it up on that advice. I do alot of walking, commute to work by bike and enjoy swimming.

 

[Jackfrost]

I run 6 days/week although lately I've been getting on the bike one of those days as I injured my calf just before the City to Surf half marathon. My usual week consists of 7.2km, 9.4km/3.1km & 2.5hr Muay Thai training, footy training & 7.2km run afterwards, 11km, 3.1km & 2.5hr Muay Thai training, 14km/35km bike ride. Try to go no slower than 4:20/km and aim for 4:10/km, there are lots of hills on my tracks so when I go for a run at the olds or the inlaws I'll aim for sub 4:05/km. I also have a free gym at work so do 2-3 weight sessions, 2 heavy bags sessions and a core workout during the day.

Ran a half marathon in 85:28 last year and best training time clocked on the Garmin was a 12.3km run in 48:26 at 3:56/km. Think I'm gonna go in the C2S 12km this year with a view to cracking it in 46 mins.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Hey Copeland, thanks for directing me here.

Well done on the PB today - sounds like you pushed yourself hard and got the reward!

I started running about 7 years ago. I needed to get fit. I got up early one morning, started the stop watch, then I went outside and I ran and I ran and I ran until I could run no longer. Stop

30 seconds.

I stretched it out further and further each day and after eight months I ran the Sydney marathon and did alright. I've generally kept the running up over the years but it's taken its toll on the body. I strugged for a while, but then started to get into a routine with yoga last year and that helped a lot.

I have a couple of standard 10km runs around here I live. My PB is a tad over 36 mins. I was doing around 45 around the middle of last year. At the moment I'd struggle to get under 55.

That is some effort to go from zero to a marathon in 8 months.
36 mins for 10kms is really moving, considering that the elite east Africans run 21kms in around an hour.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Ran a half marathon in 85:28 last year and best training time clocked on the Garmin was a 12.3km run in 48:26 at 3:56/km. Think I'm gonna go in the C2S 12km this year with a view to cracking it in 46 mins.

Those are some pretty quick paces. My best for a half marathon was 1:45 and for 12 km was about 52 mins.

The humidity here though does make it a bit tougher. I find that when return to Oz and run there that I can run quicker and for longer as the conditions are not so oppressive.

 

[Jackfrost]

Those are some pretty quick paces. My best for a half marathon was 1:45 and for 12 km was about 52 mins.

The humidity here though does make it a bit tougher. I find that when return to Oz and run there that I can run quicker and for longer as the conditions are not so oppressive.

Cheers Rod, 12km in 52 mins aint exactly jogging. Same here (regarding oppressive conditions) going from a Perth Summer (very hot with 20-25kn SW winds) to a Perth Autumn/Winter (mild with 8kn NE). Just gotta stick out the terrible running conditions and the Autumn/Winter running is a dream

 

[stmookeyj]

This year I have 4 events lined up to participate in, a 10km on the Gold Coast in early May, a 12km in Perth in Late May (was going to be 14km but it got so popular they needed to move the start line and shorten the distance!), a 14km in Brisbane, then the City2Surf in August. The Brisbane event (1st time it's being run) is apparently a sister event to the City2Surf. Hence I have now started training in earnest figuring that starting the run specific training too early would be detrimental (the 10km on the Gold Coast I'm treating like my NAB Cup!). It's not that I'm not in shape given I've been doing footy training (I'm missing 2 games this year for the Perth and City2Surf events, the GC run is on a bye weekend, undecided what to do with the Brisbane event but likely play reserves then head to airport).

The plan will vary with practice matches, it will involve training runs on Sunday afternoon, Monday morning (early), Wednesday Morning (early), Thursday Morning (early) and most Saturday Afternoons. Distances will vary, but looking to do 10-14km runs on the weekends during April. Targeting a 55 minute run for the 10km, a 1:10 for the 12km and a 1:30 for both 14km runs so far. Modest I know, but certainly attainable given my aims for last year's short events.

Heck I've even got a blog set up which occasionally gets updated.

 

[Copeland]

I want to beat my record of 16klm. Just wondering how many days before hand should I not run?

 

[Copeland]

I'm doing my first triathlon in a month. It's a short course one and it's social so I'll take it easy. I swim quite a bit so that won't be a problem, but I don't own a bicycle so I'll have to sort something out there.

How was your triathlon mate, find a bike?

 

[grimlock]

Signed up for the SMH Half Marathon in May. It will be my first halfie and only my 2nd competitive race after a 10km fun run in November. Nervous but very excited about it.

 

[Mr Eagle]

2:05 for the Canberra Half on the weekend. 10 mins slower than last year, but I've learned the important lesson that preparation really does matter. My legs told me to GAGF at about the 16k mark and suddenly all those missed opportunities for some extra training came flooding back to mind...

Targeting a 55 minute run for the 10km, a 1:10 for the 12km and a 1:30 for both 14km runs so far. Modest I know, but certainly attainable given my aims for last year's short events.

Thing to know about City2Surf is that the last ~3km is nicely downhill. In 2011, I did a 0:58 split for the first 10km and finished in 1:19. If you can even roughly get your '10 in 0:55' target (Heartbreak Hill notwithstanding!), you can finish C2S well under 1:30.

 

[76woodenspooners]

How was your triathlon mate, find a bike?

Sure did.

It was a 300m swim, a 8km bike ride and 3km run and I clocked in at a tad under 45 minutes.

It was good fun, I'd do it again.

 

[76woodenspooners]

I want to beat my record of 16klm. Just wondering how many days before hand should I not run?

Don't know how tapering works, but like you, I'm keen to find out.

Where would your run be? Do you have a course, do you run laps?

 

[Copeland]

Don't know how tapering works, but like you, I'm keen to find out.

Where would your run be? Do you have a course, do you run laps?

I run on a track beside the Murray river, Its 4.2klm. I've done it 4 times in a row, twice, and want to pass it. Will take me about 2 hours. Ran for 45min today, might run Wednesday and then leave it. I forgot the footy's on Sat tho, I'll wait and see.

 

[76woodenspooners]

I run on a track beside the Murray river, Its 4.2klm. I've done it 4 times in a row, twice, and want to pass it. Will take me about 2 hours. Ran for 45min today, might run Wednesday and then leave it. I forgot the footy's on Sat tho, I'll wait and see.

That sounds like a great track for the soul. It must be really nice just before dusk when you get all the birdsong.

One of the things I love about running is getting out and about amongst the sights and scenery and nature. It's great to refresh the mind and I barely notice the sore muscles. Often I really struggle to put the runners on and get the motivation to get out. But once I'm running I love it.

Pity it's a bit hard on the body.

Swimming is the exact opposite - it's easy on the body, but gee, it's as boring as dog poo and I struggle mentally with finishing my laps.

 

[Jackfrost]

Don't know how tapering works, but like you, I'm keen to find out.

Where would your run be? Do you have a course, do you run laps?

Tapering is when you reduce your training workload to ensure you retain your current level of fitness but remain fresh for a race/event. For example, I'll build up to 60-70km/week in the months leading up to a HM and two weeks out I'll reduce volume and then the week of the race I'll only run about 21km at an easy pace with 3 days rest before the event. That being said no need to taper for a casual 16km run if you are already running regularly. Just rest the day before would be fine if you think you'll need it.

 

[Copeland]

Tapering is when you reduce your training workload to ensure you retain your current level of fitness but remain fresh for a race/event. For example, I'll build up to 60-70km/week in the months leading up to a HM and two weeks out I'll reduce volume and then the week of the race I'll only run about 21km at an easy pace with 3 days rest before the event. That being said no need to taper for a casual 16km run if you are already running regularly. Just rest the day before would be fine if you think you'll need it.

16klm isn't a casual run for me, and I'm trying for a PB, I may not even make it. I run about three times a week, 4klm, 6klm and sometimes 8klm. Being 52yo, its pretty hard work for me Isn't 16klm just 4klm short of your HM?