Ryan Harris

[just maybe]

Let's discuss him.

Dominates the grade comp. Made 71 for SA in the current match, but took no wickets and more or less got tonked.

Is he worth persisting with?

Seems regularly useless with the bat and is batted with the tail, a sign of zero confidence (Bailey bats ahead of him), and his bowling has been useless at state level except in 20/20s.

Not convinced he is of any benefit to the Redbacks.

 

[raikkonen]

Last ball 6 to win the game v Queensland does it for me Give him a go, but if not I'd like t see Mark Cleary given an opportunity again or is he injured?

 

[RoosterLad]

He is very inconsistent with the bat, his 71 was good, and of course the 6 off the last ball against the Bulls was orgasmic. He is a reasonably quick bowler but he just does not seem to take any wickets and thats what he needs to do. Not sure who else we can bring in... but we don't really need the allrounder as Bailey fills this position.

 

[bus24]

I've been told Bailey opens the batting for Sturt, he has serious ability with the bat aswell as ball.

 

[NSWCROW]

As opposed to the benifit of having MARK COSGROVE in the side ???
At least RHYNO has showed a bit of pride and fight this year !!!!

 

[just maybe]

He is very inconsistent with the bat, his 71 was good, and of course the 6 off the last ball against the Bulls was orgasmic. He is a reasonably quick bowler but he just does not seem to take any wickets and thats what he needs to do. Not sure who else we can bring in... but we don't really need the allrounder as Bailey fills this position.

I think Cleary is a better bowler and a better bat personally.

 

[just maybe]

As opposed to the benifit of having MARK COSGROVE in the side ???
At least RHYNO has showed a bit of pride and fight this year !!!!

Oh please. Even this season Cosgrove > Harris.

More runs and probably more wickets too.

 

[RoosterLad]

I think Cleary is a better bowler and a better bat personally.

I agree. Bring Cleary in for Ryan Harris.

 

[Cap]

What ever happened to Cleary ? he was meant to be the next best thing for SA ??

Personally I think we are ******** - and probably will only get ********ter in the short term

 

[apollo_creed]

I think Cleary is a better bowler and a better bat personally.

you'd be right.

Cleary has been shafted this season, particuarly in the one day competition.

Always contributed but for some reason has been constantly overlooked this season.

 

[fryingpan]

You're all kidding right? Cleary better than R.Harris? No, just.... no.

Harris averages 60 at grade cricket and bowls well too. He has made ******** ******** all runs since coming into the SA side I agree (apart from today) but Cleary has had his chance. His batting is disgraceful (worse than Manou) and his bowling is nothing special.

Having said that, Harris is nothing special either but should be in the side ahead of Cleary without a doubt.

 

[fryingpan]

you'd be right.

Cleary has been shafted this season, particuarly in the one day competition.

Always contributed but for some reason has been constantly overlooked this season.

Yeah, no.

Cleary is hopeless in Pura Cup and not overly impressive in one dayers. I remember one of his last games we needed runs in the final 2 overs. Some one kept bowling bouncers so what does Cleary do? He ducks under them Swing the ********ing bat Cleary.

Yep, we lost the game.

 

[just maybe]

You're all kidding right? Cleary better than R.Harris? No, just.... no.

Harris averages 60 at grade cricket and bowls well too. He has made ******** ******** all runs since coming into the SA side I agree (apart from today) but Cleary has had his chance. His batting is disgraceful (worse than Manou) and his bowling is nothing special.

Having said that, Harris is nothing special either but should be in the side ahead of Cleary without a doubt.

You're off your nut.

Cleary averages 21.12 with the bat, including a 100, in the first-class comp.

As a bowler he averages a very respectable 32.4 with the ball, excellent S/R 53.78.

There's a reason he was picked for Australia A.

Harris, on the other hand, is older, averages, after this match, 14.39 with the bat. With the ball, he averages over 50 with a S/R over 90.

Please don't claim he is better than Cleary.

 

[fryingpan]

You're off your nut.

Cleary averages 21.12 with the bat, including a 100, in the first-class comp.

As a bowler he averages a very respectable 32.4 with the ball, excellent S/R 53.78.

There's a reason he was picked for Australia A.

Harris, on the other hand, is older, averages, after this match, 14.39 with the bat. With the ball, he averages over 50 with a S/R over 90.

Please don't claim he is better than Cleary.

Mmm yes and when did Cleary score that 100? Was it when the match was dead and meant nothing? I think yes yes.

Cleary wont play again for SA, and rightly so

 

[just maybe]

Mmm yes and when did Cleary score that 100? Was it when the match was dead and meant nothing? I think yes yes.

Cleary wont play again for SA, and rightly so

So you rubbish the 100, but can't answer anything else?

Cheap.

 

[ShearMagic9]

Well... Harris is very good in the field.

I mean the mediocre side that we are we could do with a specialist fieldsman that can occasionally bat/bowl well.

 

[just maybe]

Mmm yes and when did Cleary score that 100? Was it when the match was dead and meant nothing? I think yes yes.

No it wasn't. You are bagging him and you don't even have a clue what you're talking about.

Shameful! You are so bloody clueless you attack Cleary when his 100 was made in the first innings, in partnership with Lehmann, building a total which helped us beat Tasmania outright!

OH OH OH! You got pounded right here!

http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2005-06/AUS_LOCAL/PC/SCORECARDS/SOA_TAS_PC_16-19JAN2006.html

 

[fryingpan]

No it wasn't. You are bagging him and you don't even have a clue what you're talking about.

Shameful! You are so bloody clueless you attack Cleary when his 100 was made in the first innings, in partnership with Lehmann, building a total which helped us beat Tasmania outright!

OH OH OH! You got pounded right here!

http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2005-06/AUS_LOCAL/PC/SCORECARDS/SOA_TAS_PC_16-19JAN2006.html

How the hell did we make 580?

Ok so I was wrong the match wasn't dead like I thought it was, but we didn't need his century, we were gonna win without it anyway

But still, that's one decent score. Whoopdee dooooooo

 

[just maybe]

How the hell did we make 580?

Ok so I was wrong the match wasn't dead like I thought it was, but we didn't need his century, we were gonna win without it anyway

But still, that's one decent score. Whoopdee dooooooo

He has 1 hundred and 2 fifties at an average of 21. A handy lower-order hitter.

His bowling figures are excellent.

You've got nothing. Now you're resorting to bagging a player who got 100 in a key innings.

 

[fryingpan]

He has 1 hundred and 2 fifties at an average of 21. A handy lower-order hitter.

His bowling figures are excellent.

You've got nothing. Now you're resorting to bagging a player who got 100 in a key innings.

Cleary will never play for SA again, that's what I've got.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Surely we should be picking bowlers mainly for their bowling ability - not their batting ability. Paul Rofe should be in the side (or is he injured now?)

 

[just maybe]

Paul Rofe should be in the side (or is he injured now?)

No doubt.

 

[Thunderstruck]

Harris has more ability than he knows.

He owns both Rofe and Cleary in Grade cricket with bat and ball. Just can't seem to translate that into first class cricket atm but he has only just been given a chance, so I think we should persist with him for now. Alnost always takes 5 wickets an innings in grade cricket, always far too good for that level. Seems to have Mark McGough syndrome.

Rofe is a better bowler in that he is smarter and knows how to get wickets and is more experienced. Just that his batting is a bit on the poor side and unfort his bowling hasn't been as good lately.

I also heard national selectors were keen on Adcock for his all round abilities with bat, ball and in the field. Very interesting....massive talent as a junior and left to waste in grade cricket, getting a bit old now for national honours...needs to solidify himself at state cricket yet...

 

[just maybe]

He owns both Rofe and Cleary in Grade cricket with bat and ball. Just can't seem to translate that into first class cricket atm

Bit like plenty of players had better stats at domestic level than McGrath or Warne, but just weren't as good. Harris is a grade cricket bully, first class hack.

but he has only just been given a chance, so I think we should persist with him for now.

He's been in the system for years and failed consistently...

Rofe is a better bowler in that he is smarter and knows how to get wickets and is more experienced. Just that his batting is a bit on the poor side and unfort his bowling hasn't been as good lately.

When has he had a chance to bowl lately?

I also heard national selectors were keen on Adcock for his all round abilities with bat, ball and in the field. Very interesting....massive talent as a junior and left to waste in grade cricket, getting a bit old now for national honours...needs to solidify himself at state cricket yet...

You kidding? He is way too old...and he is an utter hack. He wasn't 'left to waste', he was given plenty of chances and failed consistently.

 

[crowsarethebest]

I was impressed with Cleary when I saw him play. The Aussie selectors saw something in him as well.. was picked in the Aussie A side. Bailey- Maybe a bolwing all-rounder? Warnie similarity again. If Cam White can just work on his bolwing just a bit.. White and Bailey combination will be good to watch.