Teams SC 2015 - My team (During NAB)

[Krujan]

I said I can see him averaging 85-90, not he will average 85-90, thats implying that he stays on the track and plays the same role which he did last year as a rebounding defender, and as I said with maturity and an improving team this could easily happen

And he could just as easily play 22 games in the same role and average 70-75 even in an improving team. Personally, I rather a young defender average 70-75 from a full season in the previous year to sway me on what could happen in the future.

 

[toxic]

What a load of rot. I started and finished with the top DEF, MID and FWD last year and I upgraded into guys on each line who were in the top 10-15 for their position by about R16. Overall finish was top 200.

You can think the concept is flawed if you want to, suit yourself. If my D6 is averaging 83 this year, they will certainly be in line for an upgrade.

started with the top in all 3 positions? Or am I reading that wrong?

Players averages chsnge during the year. Fijishing with the top averaging players doesnt mean you've scored the most.
total points and durability need to be considered is what I'm saying.

 

[Krujan]

Dayne beams says hi

I fail to see the comparison to Dayne Beams.

 

[toxic]

I fail to see the comparison to Dayne Beams.

Injury based starting price, however dayne did have a history of elite scoring

 

[Krujan]

Injury based starting price

Just confirming we're talking about Haynes here?

 

[toxic]

Risk is he is worth 380k (not cheap) and played 7 games last year for an average of 80.

He was injured for most of the year, and it is irrefutable he is in an awkward price range.

I agree he's an awkward price range 100%

 

[toxic]

Just confirming we're talking about Haynes here?

We were.
i was eluding, perhaps poorly, to what are the viable options?
I suspect majority have taken an injury player

 

[Bont2Bruce]

started with the top in all 3 positions? Or am I reading that wrong?

Players averages chsnge during the year. Fijishing with the top averaging players doesnt mean you've scored the most.
total points and durability need to be considered is what I'm saying.

Your previous post said nothing about durability to be honest, I struggle to understand what you are really trying to say.

My post that you quoted was about whether D6 averaging 83 does or does not need to be upgraded.

You quoted me and then asked whether I had ever ended up with the top averaging player in any position. Well I started and finished with Gray so clearly yes. Not that this had anything to do with the post you quoted, hence I have no real idea what you are trying to say. Something about a flawed concept, when all I was talking about was what score was going to be acceptable for a keeper at D6.

 

[thetradesman]

Dayne beams says hi

Completely different scenarios

 

[MotlopMagic]

Very risky team with Wells, Nic Nat, Van Berlo.

Like the wines selection, also like a few PODS you have in there such as Mckenzie and Bartel.

Nice team but would steer clear of Wells and Van Berlo.

Thanks for the advice.

Naitanui and Wells aren't going anywhere at this stage so I might look at trading Van Berlo for a rookie and pocketing the cash.

 

[thetradesman]

Thanks for the advice.

Naitanui and Wells aren't going anywhere at this stage so I might look at trading Van Berlo for a rookie and pocketing the cash.

Just curious, what do you think Wells will average? through the year? Or are you looking to him to go up a bit in money and trade him out?

 

[toxic]

Your previous post said nothing about durability to be honest, I struggle to understand what you are really trying to say.

My post that you quoted was about whether D6 averaging 83 does or does not need to be upgraded.

You quoted me and then asked whether I had ever ended up with the top averaging player in any position. Well I started and finished with Gray so clearly yes. Not that this had anything to do with the post you quoted, hence I have no real idea what you are trying to say. Something about a flawed concept, when all I was talking about was what score was going to be acceptable for a keeper at D6.

Okay let me clarify my point

Did you have the top 6 averaging defenders? Top 8 averaging mids?
Top 2 averaging rucks?
Top 6 averaging fwds?

Dismissing Haynes or any other player coz they wont be top 6/8/2/6;in their respective position is the flawed concept I tried. ..obviously bloody poorly, to elude to.

I do agree he's a risk based on injury history

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Okay let me clarify my point

Did you have the top 6 averaging defenders? Top 8 averaging mids? No, but there were all in the top 15
Top 2 averaging rucks? No, but they were in the top 5
Top 6 averaging fwds? No, but there were in the top 20

Dismissing Haynes or any other player coz they wont be top 6/8/2/6;in their respective position is the flawed concept I tried. ..obviously bloody poorly, to elude to.

I do agree he's a risk based on injury history

I never dismissed Haynes. Whatever flawed concept you think is out there is a segue that I'm still not following. Nobody (apart from you) is talking about trying to name the top 6/8/2/6 and dismiss the rest.

In my previous post I also said that should Haynes increase to 90 ave that would put him in the top 10 DEFs. This is clearly worthy of a keeper.

Then the post that I was responding to, said that 83 for a D6 is a keeper. I replied that it is not good enough, because 83 wouldn't even be in the top 20.

 

[Achy Blakey Heart]

Would love advice on my team from a knowledgable coach.

My goal is to beat my father in law this year and stymie his gloating.....its quite unbearable.

D - Simpson, Newnes, Geary, Pearce, Goddard, Edwards Maynard, Saad
M - Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Priddis, Jack, Rich, Anderson, Heeney Boekerst, Vandenburg, Freeman
R - Lobbe, Giles Nankervis
F - Gray, Lids, Buddy, Swan, Clarke, Hogan Karnezis, Daniel


Many thanks in advance

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Would love advice on my team from a knowledgable coach.

My goal is to beat my father in law this year and stymie his gloating.....its quite unbearable.

D - Simpson, Newnes, Geary, Pearce, Goddard, Edwards Maynard, Saad
M - Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Priddis, Jack, Rich, Anderson, Heeney Boekerst, Vandenburg, Freeman
R - Lobbe, Giles Nankervis
F - Gray, Lids, Buddy, Swan, Clarke, Hogan Karnezis, Daniel


Many thanks in advance

Not too bad for this time of the preseason. Strong on some lines, at the expense of your ruck line, which doesn't appeal. Geary and Pearce at D3 and D4 is also a bit too exposed for me.

I think there are more cheap FWD options this year than in previous years. You might consider rebalancing to take a premium FWD out and put this $$ onto your DEF line instead.

 

[Krujan]

We were.
i was eluding, perhaps poorly, to what are the viable options?
I suspect majority have taken an injury player

The reason I asked was that Beams averaged 101 from 14 games in his 3rd season then 122.9 in 2012 from 21 games in his 4th season before playing only the 7 games in 2013 in his 5th season for a 102 average. Followed by 115 from 15 in his 6th.

Where as Haynes averaged 64 in his 2nd season from 11 games then 71 from 8 games last year.

Do you see where I'm getting at here?

 

[MotlopMagic]

Just curious, what do you think Wells will average? through the year? Or are you looking to him to go up a bit in money and trade him out?

He averaged 99.77 from 2011 - 2013. His best output was 104.2 in 2011. I'm expecting an average of 100 - 110. Best case scenario, he will be my M8. Worst cast scenario, he will be an easy upgrade to a fallen premium later in the year.

 

[MightyMark]

He averaged 99.77 from 2011 - 2013. His best output was 104.2 in 2011. I'm expecting an average of 100 - 110. Best case scenario, he will be my M8. Worst cast scenario, he will be an easy upgrade to a fallen premium later in the year.

Not saying he is a bad pick, but dont you think it might be a little tough for a guy who had only ever managed over 100 once to come out at 30 and produce his best year.

I would say he will push into the 90's at best, 100-110 is a little far fetched for mine.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Any thoughts on the following?

Potential donuts sitting in your defence from round 1.

 

[MotlopMagic]

Not saying he is a bad pick, but dont you think it might be a little tough for a guy who had only ever managed over 100 once to come out at 30 and produce his best year.

I would say he will push into the 90's at best, 100-110 is a little far fetched for mine.

His average from 2011 - 2013 was all but 100. I'd be happy with an average of 100 considering his price. He's had a big pre-season and I'm expecting North Melbourne to win 16+ games so I don't think an average of 110 is unachievable. I get what you're saying though.

 

[MotlopMagic]

Potential donuts sitting in your defence from round 1.

Fair call. I'm not sold on the likes of Clancee Pearce and Brendan Whitecross though.

 

[Feerits Elf]

My goal is to beat my father in law this year and stymie his gloating.....its quite unbearable.

Just go sleep with his daughter or something, that'll fix his wagon.

 

[Stickers32]

Anyone got any idea what Haynes would have to average for him to make around 70-100k?

His BE is around the 65-70 mark... GWS have a fairly good draw so i think he's every chance to average 80-90 and if he does that you won't care how much he makes.

 

[gcsunsfc]

Fair call. I'm not sold on the likes of Clancee Pearce and Brendan Whitecross though.

I agree, its tough to find a balance. Whitecross will have same dilemma I reckon. I don't have any great solutions. Perhaps save some dollars on Smith, Burgoyne, Simpson by going Murphy, Shaw, Hibberd, Kelly etc all about 25-50k cheaper which you could then use to upgrade a rookie to a Geary / Pearce / Darley / Henderson...Although realise that's probably not ideal.

 

[thetradesman]

He averaged 99.77 from 2011 - 2013. His best output was 104.2 in 2011. I'm expecting an average of 100 - 110. Best case scenario, he will be my M8. Worst cast scenario, he will be an easy upgrade to a fallen premium later in the year.

Fair enough, he has the talent to do it.

But I have doubts over his age and injuries to come out and produce his best year.