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Got this from the Hawthorn board. Tonight's game... average years old and average games played...

Hawthorn 23.7 years and 64.4 games
Melbourne 24.3 years and 76.4 games

:eek:
 
It is a bit of a scary fact but expected. They're guns are in their prime where as our "guns" are in their motorised buggies (Robbo, Junior, Bruce, even Green to an extent). They have a lot of injuries so are playing quite a few yongsters as well but the talent around them is enough to lift the whole team.
 

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doctoring stats, i'd say.

but i can't think how :o
 
The thing about Hawthorn is that they don't have any veterans. Bateman was their oldest today at 28 years. They then had 9 more players aged 25 - 27 years, which means that overall they had 12 players under the age of 25.

On the other hand, we had 5 players that are older than Bateman today. We had 13 players under the age of 25 (basically the same number as them), which means we are both playing the same amount of youngsters. The only thing is that we have a handful of veterans, whereas they have a handful of guys in their prime footballing age.
 
Someone do the numbers if you drop Bruce and Robertson and bring in Woneamirri and Cheney.


We would have won today with those changes.
 
It's true according to footywire - but remember we have McDonald, Robbo, Bruce, Whelan, Green to up the averages.

This explains why the stats are in their favour.

Hawthorn Games Melbourne
9 Less than 50 ----10
7 50 to 99-----6
5 100 to 149 ----2
1 150 or more ----4

Both have lots of young kids playing, but in 100 games plus it is equal but ours are older and 3 at least (McDonald, Whelan, Robbo) are potentially replaced reasonably easily ie. in 2 years Garland, Watts, Valenti/Blease makes us even younger and better.
 
this is because we still have Junior, Robbo, Bruce, Whelan, Green in our side.

I'd like to see some descriptive statistics of that info, would shed better light on it.

I bet if you took the 3 or 4 most experienced and least experienced players out of each side, those stats would tell a different story...
 
Take out Robbo and Junior at the end of the year and we'd probably be in front.

As has already been said in the thread, the Hawks don't have any veterans.
 
I'm quite board, so I've just done some descriptive statistics to tell the story a little better. This is based on the teams that played tonight.

The numbers in the bracket is the standard deviation of the relevant statistic.

Melbourne:

Average Age: 24.23 years (4.00)
Average Games: 82.86 (70.51)

Hawthorn:
Average Age: 23.56 years (2.76)
Average Games: 70.55 (49.73)

What the standard deviations here show how spread out the data is. Look at average age for example. While Hawthorn's avg. age was less than ours, at 23.56, the std. deviation sugguests most of Hawthorn's players are between 20.80 years, and 26.31 years. Whilst ours would suggest the same range for us would be between 20.23 and 28.23. Whilst we have quite a few young, and quite a few old players, Hawthorn has more players in that middle age bracket.

No concern for us at all.
 

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w00dy said:
I'm quite board, so I've just done some descriptive statistics to tell the story a little better. This is based on the teams that played tonight.

The numbers in the bracket is the standard deviation of the relevant statistic.

Melbourne:

Average Age: 24.23 years (4.00)
Average Games: 82.86 (70.51)

Hawthorn:
Average Age: 23.56 years (2.76)
Average Games: 70.55 (49.73)

What the standard deviations here show how spread out the data is. Look at average age for example. While Hawthorn's avg. age was less than ours, at 23.56, the std. deviation sugguests most of Hawthorn's players are between 20.80 years, and 26.31 years. Whilst ours would suggest the same range for us would be between 20.23 and 28.23. Whilst we have quite a few young, and quite a few old players, Hawthorn has more players in that middle age bracket.

No concern for us at all.
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HAHA the first practical application for 6 sigma i've ever seen.
 
That's an interesting point that the statistics hide. So its not like the Hawks are winning with a lot of kids, its more that they've simply got a lot of blokes in their mid 20s...

Still their list management has been superb since Pelchen has been overseeing their drafting/recruiting...
 
Don't forget that Hawthorn still have injuries with some more experienced (and hence older) players to come back.
 
And so do we of course. Not all necessarily in the 'experienced' category, but still a whole bunch of talent to come back.

I think our best current lineup atm would prob be younger than Hawthorn's. But I'm just guessing...
 

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