Scoring Shots

[mr snip]

The previous season's results have been done to death I know, but I am interested in your thoughts with regards the doom and gloom that is forecast for the crows this season.

I was just sifting through the results from last season and was looking at the "what Ifs." Considering we had key injuries to a leading backmen, midfielder and forward. With a little bit of luck the over all results could have been different.

My key focus is that of scoring shots and how important kicking straight is.

RD2 Adel 28 V Bris 29 (L 21pts)
RD3 Freo 23 V Adel 24 (L 9pts)
RD4 Adel 23 V St K 23 (L 15pts)
RD9 Col 23 V Adel 20 (L 3 pts)
RD11 Adel 27 V Carl 21 ( L 4 pts)
RD15 Syd 18 V Adel 15 (L 3 pts)
RD16 Adel 20 V Freo 22 (L 12pts)
RD19 St K 21 V Adel 18 (L 23 pts)

To have as morning scoring shots and sometimes more you have to say the football gods weren't on your side and it appears we had a lot of that last year

Hopefully this year will be different.

 

[Crowked]

mmmm, its a problem OK.

Hopefully our new game plan is more direct, resulting in easier shots on goal. Its one of the major flaws in our play over the past few years. We go via the coast and end up with set shots on tight angles.

looking at those stats, losing to bloody Fremantle twice by a couple of kicks is a major pi$$ off to me. Also the games against Collingwood and Carlton, god I hate losing to those pricks, especialy by such small margins.

The doom and gloom IMO, is largely coming from those who want it to be more so than those who know how it is. We will go OK.

 

[Mong]

Inside 50's is another area where we often beat our opponents in games that we lost, in fact it's a stat we rarely lost at all. It's no secret that our forward line is a major problem and has been for years.

 

[Cap]

Inside 50's is another area where we often beat our opponents in games that we lost, in fact it's a stat we rarely lost at all. It's no secret that our forward line is a major problem and has been for years.

yeah but i would be rather getting it in there having the possiblity in scoring than not getting it in their to improive the stats !

saying that we were a wasteful bunch of buggers last year - I honestly think NC should say if your in the 50 have a shot don't be cute

 

[arrowman]

RD2 Adel 28 V Bris 29 (L 21pts)
RD3 Freo 23 V Adel 24 (L 9pts)
RD4 Adel 23 V St K 23 (L 15pts)
RD9 Col 23 V Adel 20 (L 3 pts)
RD11 Adel 27 V Carl 21 ( L 4 pts)
RD15 Syd 18 V Adel 15 (L 3 pts)
RD16 Adel 20 V Freo 22 (L 12pts)
RD19 St K 21 V Adel 18 (L 23 pts)

Thanks for that, snip. Six losses by less than 3 goals. And, IIRC, not too many narrow wins. Greater accuracy = 15 wins = top 4

But seriously - just another reason why the gloom and doom merchants are barking up the wrong tree.

… I honestly think NC should say if your in the 50 have a shot don't be cute

I agree. Too many times last year (and before that) I’ve seen players either pass off or look to be too “perfect” in the move forward. Take the responsibility - take the shot. I’d rather see us kick 21.35 that way, than 15.8 by being careful.

 

[jo172]

The main problem would be our incistence to run down the wings and have our tall forwards leading into flanks, why not just lead up the f**king ground?

This is one of the things about the AFC that really bothers me, since Modra left we have not had a key forward prepared to lead straight up the ground and therefore getting easier shots on goal. Welshy is a fairly accurate kick so i don't mind him leading wherever he wants, but awkward kickers such as Perrie must lead straight up the ground because the man simply can't kick when he's not at 100% confidence!

 

[missionpossible]

My key focus is that of scoring shots and how important kicking straight is.

RD2 Adel 28 V Bris 29 (L 21pts)
RD3 Freo 23 V Adel 24 (L 9pts)
RD4 Adel 23 V St K 23 (L 15pts)
RD9 Col 23 V Adel 20 (L 3 pts)
RD11 Adel 27 V Carl 21 ( L 4 pts)
RD15 Syd 18 V Adel 15 (L 3 pts)
RD16 Adel 20 V Freo 22 (L 12pts)
RD19 St K 21 V Adel 18 (L 23 pts)

To have as morning scoring shots and sometimes more you have to say the football gods weren't on your side and it appears we had a lot of that last year

Just looking at what you have put here of the 8 results you have listed, in only 2 of them the crows had more scoring shots kicking straight may have given you 2 more wins. It would be interesting to see the other 14 results to see if your opposition could use the same arguement.

However the problem with stats is they only tell part of the story. It does not tell you that the opposition had 4 set shot 20m out from goals from marks to the crows 1 straight out in front or how many of the points were rushed.

I think you suffed last year by not having mark stevens to give you a contest in the hot spot (no matter someone to take the strong mark) and the poor delivery that your forwards have to endure.

 

[arrowman]

Just looking at what you have put here of the 8 results you have listed, in only 2 of them the crows had more scoring shots kicking straight may have given you 2 more wins. ... It does not tell you that the opposition had 4 set shot 20m out from goals from marks to the crows 1 straight out in front or how many of the points were rushed.

Certainly that is true and I'm not following mr snip's "luck" and "footy gods" line, I think the more interesting/important things are
1. We had a lot of narrow losses so we weren't as far off the mark as our win/loss record would suggest.
2. The problem is not luck, it's the way we go forward, and hopefully NC and the boys are doing something about that.

The thing about rushed behinds is also important. So often we hear about how poorly a team kicked for goal, but a closer analysis will show that their score of, say, 8.15 was actually 8.8 from shots and 7 rushed behinds.

 

[Stiffy_18]

The main problem would be our incistence to run down the wings and have our tall forwards leading into flanks, why not just lead up the f**king ground?

This is one of the things about the AFC that really bothers me, since Modra left we have not had a key forward prepared to lead straight up the ground and therefore getting easier shots on goal. Welshy is a fairly accurate kick so i don't mind him leading wherever he wants, but awkward kickers such as Perrie must lead straight up the ground because the man simply can't kick when he's not at 100% confidence!

You theory is sound but using Perrie as an example couldn't be more off mark. HIs set shots from tight angles are more accurate than directly in from and stats would show this. For such a crappy kick in general field play he is surprisingly accurate from set shots especially where he is hugging the boundry line

 

[jo172]

You theory is sound but using Perrie as an example couldn't be more off mark. HIs set shots from tight angles are more accurate than directly in from and stats would show this. For such a crappy kick in general field play he is surprisingly accurate from set shots especially where he is hugging the boundry line

Well there ya go!

But seriously if i go on Sunday night and see them leading and kicking to flanks i don't think i'll bother again this season!

 

[Damp Squarie]

So it'll be your last game then

I said in an earlier post Id like to see us win the close games.
Kicking straight would help.

Not sure if D Jarman had us kicking more accurately though did he?

 

[arrowman]

Not sure if D Jarman had us kicking more accurately though did he?

I think he fixed Perrie.

 

[Damp Squarie]

I think you're right.
Remember him having a day out against Melbourne and angry Nietz.

 

[- PC -]

Dont mind me its late and I am using memory , and the new AFC site takes forever.

But IIRC Adelaide had a great season in that except for one game ( dont mention Brisbane) our highest losing margin was under 37 points ( stat supplied by Inside Football) now 6 goals may seem a lot but when analysed IMO it meant that we were in a lot of games and our concentration levels dropped. I am trying to think of a game late at AAMI ( essendon ) where we came within 11 points and then let an umpiring decision affect us and we lost by 36 .It seemed to me the AFC had 1 bad quarter and there went the game. If NC can rectify that as well it would go a long way to putting the ledger on the plus side.