Toast Scott Pendlebury

[Robroy22]

Definitely agree that Peter McKenna was a beautiful kick, he is probably the best drop punt kicker I have seen, but then back then so many players could kick. I often think that players like Clokey or Daisy that struggle with drop punts from in close should revert to what Twiggy Dunne, Peter Hudson and Douglas Wade did back then...when you are in close, just kick the bladder out of a "flat punt" it flies ugly but it always goes straight. Drop punts (unless you're Daics or Peter McKenna ) always swing a little off the boot and from close in that's enough to miss.....sorry the old coach in me is rambling again.

On the topic of "major talents from the past" some of you from the sixties and seventies would remember Graham Shepherd. Shep was a mature age recruit from Tassie (Greening was a Taswegian too) and Shep came and played 2 or 3 years before returning to the apple isle. Shep was as good as Daryl Baldock, could kick goals from anywhere, took 2or 3 speccies every week he just didn't get to play VFL until he was 28 or so, geez he could play though.

And for the Daicos tragics (if you aren't one....why not?) I'm sure you all remember he started as a centreman and would regularly get his 30posessions and a couple of goals. But do you remember the first game Tommy Hafey asked Daics to go forward? I do. Vicci Park, against the Tiges and we're 5 goals down at half time. Daics goes forward, Tommy clears out the forward line and it was Emmet Dunne trying to chase him!....lol...then Jimmy Jess trying to knock his block off, then Merve Keane, finally Brian Wood. Daics kicked a lazy 8 after half time and we got up to win by 5 goals. sweet. The best was when 4 defenders converged on him from all angles of the compass, Daics taps the ball back between his legs, back bulks the lot of them (causing the 4 of them to collide) and casually turns onto his left (non preferred) and slots a 50 meter goal...heaven.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Definitely agree that Peter McKenna was a beautiful kick, he is probably the best drop punt kicker I have seen, but then back then so many players could kick. I often think that players like Clokey or Daisy that struggle with drop punts from in close should revert to what Twiggy Dunne, Peter Hudson and Douglas Wade did back then...when you are in close, just kick the bladder out of a "flat punt" it flies ugly but it always goes straight. Drop punts (unless you're Daics or Peter McKenna ) always swing a little off the boot and from close in that's enough to miss.....sorry the old coach in me is rambling again.

On the topic of "major talents from the past" some of you from the sixties and seventies would remember Graham Shepherd. Shep was a mature age recruit from Tassie (Greening was a Taswegian too) and Shep came and played 2 or 3 years before returning to the apple isle. Shep was as good as Daryl Baldock, could kick goals from anywhere, took 2or 3 speccies every week he just didn't get to play VFL until he was 28 or so, geez he could play though.

And for the Daicos tragics (if you aren't one....why not?) I'm sure you all remember he started as a centreman and would regularly get his 30posessions and a couple of goals. But do you remember the first game Tommy Hafey asked Daics to go forward? I do. Vicci Park, against the Tiges and we're 5 goals down at half time. Daics goes forward, Tommy clears out the forward line and it was Emmet Dunne trying to chase him!....lol...then Jimmy Jess trying to knock his block off, then Merve Keane, finally Brian Wood. Daics kicked a lazy 8 after half time and we got up to win by 5 goals. sweet. The best was when 4 defenders converged on him from all angles of the compass, Daics taps the ball back between his legs, back bulks the lot of them (causing the 4 of them to collide) and casually turns onto his left (non preferred) and slots a 50 meter goal...heaven.

Always glad of input of people that have seen more than me. I started following in 1976.

Shepard is a name I don't know, i'll now have to do a bit of research, thanks.

 

[Quicky]

I'm fairly new and have never started my own thread so apologies in advance if I've done this wrong or haven't earn't the right to start threads, feel free to remove it if need be.

Anywhom,
Where would you guys rate pendles in our history of great players., ino his career is only half way but he has already achieved:

played 148 games
Premiership player
normsmith medalist
2 ANZAc day medals (in a row)
B&F winner
3 time All Australian
twice finished 2nd in the b&f
Has polled 90 browlow votes
Runner up in rising star award

and is currently just 24 years old.

Swanny is ahead of him, but pendles is very chance to pass him (just needs a brown low lol) WHere that places him overall.......discuss.

Well must say a good first effort! And welcome to BF!

76 posted this in one of our other threads and thought might be helpful for you or others when starting a thread:

I think there is a strong onus on the OP and how they name and introduce the thread. If,as an OP, you want to create a thread that discusses a topic from a different angle, the onus is on you to differentiate your new thread and justify why you've created it. Not just to prevent us mods from merging it, but to avoid the inevitable flames from other posters who complain about "Why has yet another thread been created to discuss this?"

I think in particular it is important to ensure a thread is named properly to draw posters in and set the topic for the thread.

Back to the thread are we comparing Pendlebury to other Collingwood greats only?

Or to all the greats of footy?

At Collingwood he has already achieved so much he could be anything in the fullness of time.

 

[Temploar]

2013 brownlow winner.
That's where i'd put him.

 

[forwardflanker]

Jason Wilde, Buckley, Daicos, Pendlebury, Clement, Stephen Patterson,

 

[Robroy22]

Jason Wild....now we're talkin.....rangas!!
Didn't Patto have a touch of the strawberry blondes as well?

Great fun post!

 

[Pie_fan92]

Well I haven't been around for too long so I can't compare Pendles to past greats such as Daics, Browny etc but he is definitely the 2nd best pie I've seen (Bucks being number 1). It's also exciting because he is only 24 and, barring injury, will be remembered as an all-time great. I get the feeling that we, pies fans, will look at the number 10 guernsey in the same light as the number 5 when Pendles finishes up.

On the topic of past players, I wonder where Bob Rose is at in all these discussions. I doubt anyone on BF ever saw him play but he is often regarded as our greatest by the older gen pies fans, which wouldn't surprise me seeing as he is the centre in our team of the century.

 

[Son of Skeletor]

And for the Daicos tragics (if you aren't one....why not?) I'm sure you all remember he started as a centreman and would regularly get his 30posessions and a couple of goals. But do you remember the first game Tommy Hafey asked Daics to go forward? I do. Vicci Park, against the Tiges and we're 5 goals down at half time. Daics goes forward, Tommy clears out the forward line and it was Emmet Dunne trying to chase him!....lol...then Jimmy Jess trying to knock his block off, then Merve Keane, finally Brian Wood. Daics kicked a lazy 8 after half time and we got up to win by 5 goals. sweet. The best was when 4 defenders converged on him from all angles of the compass, Daics taps the ball back between his legs, back bulks the lot of them (causing the 4 of them to collide) and casually turns onto his left (non preferred) and slots a 50 meter goal...heaven.

History repeated itself to an extent in 1990- we were thrashed in Perth by West Coast in R1, and to compound matters we were losing at half-time the next week against the old enemy at Waverley. It was looking like a really miserable start to the season..

Matthews moved Daics up forward at half-time, and he bagged seven in the second half as we went on to win by six goals. That was THE game when both Daics' late-career re-invention (came full-circle really) as a full-time forward was cast, as well as serving as (I believe) the catalyst for our flag that year. Really wish he'd kicked 100 that year, would've been perfect.

 

[Greening Magic]

Great Thread.

Despite my user name I actually never saw Greening play but a family friend always told me that he was an absolute freak, so I've read everything that's available and watched as many highlights as I could. What has always struck me is the way other club champions like Len Thompson and Peter McKenna talk about him. It's almost as if they were in awe of him. Extremely jealous of those like Robroy who witnessed him play. Would have bolted the Brownlow in the year he was cut down and therefore gained more recognition.

For those that I've witnessed I'd have Daics just ahead of Carmen for pure ability. Buckley willed himself to greatness.

 

[Son of Skeletor]

Always glad of input of people that have seen more than me. I started following in 1976.

Shepard is a name I don't know, i'll now have to do a bit of research, thanks.

Didn't Shephard's son play briefly for us as well? I think he kicked a bag in one game, maybe late 80s..

 

[jonbe54]

Well I haven't been around for too long so I can't compare Pendles to past greats such as Daics, Browny etc but he is definitely the 2nd best pie I've seen (Bucks being number 1). It's also exciting because he is only 24 and, barring injury, will be remembered as an all-time great. I get the feeling that we, pies fans, will look at the number 10 guernsey in the same light as the number 5 when Pendles finishes up.

On the topic of past players, I wonder where Bob Rose is at in all these discussions. I doubt anyone on BF ever saw him play but he is often regarded as our greatest by the older gen pies fans, which wouldn't surprise me seeing as he is the centre in our team of the century.

I saw him play Pie fan, much underrated nowadays except by Pie fans, sensational player with great skills though not quite in the class of Daics or Greening.

 

[forwardflanker]

Great Thread.

Despite my user name I actually never saw Greening play but a family friend always told me that he was an absolute freak, so I've read everything that's available and watched as many highlights as I could. What has always struck me is the way other club champions like Len Thompson and Peter McKenna talk about him. It's almost as if they were in awe of him. Extremely jealous of those like Robroy who witnessed him play. Would have bolted the Brownlow in the year he was cut down and therefore gained more recognition.

For those that I've witnessed I'd have Daics just ahead of Carmen for pure ability. Buckley willed himself to greatness.

+1 for most of that. Although I've heard from a few people that if Carmen got his head read he would of been an all time great and that when he was going he was about the best there's been

 

[jonbe54]

+1 for most of that. Although I've heard from a few people that if Carmen got his head read he would of been an all time great and that when he was going he was about the best there's been

He was simply explosive when on song, unbeatable.

Trouble was he was so easily derailed by someone saying something narky to him, then he forgot football and went after the man. It wasn't once or twice he did it time after time - don't think Phil's elevator went to the top floor

 

[Robroy22]

I love the fact that Pendles has given the number 10 that touch of class. Til he came along 10 was always just a "so so guernsey" though Ian Cooper did do it proud in the 70's.

You said that no one here actually saw Bobby Rose Play ....oops showing my age! I was lucky enough to see Bobby as a 5-6 year old ( I was the 5 year old) and he was my boyhood hero. I wore his number 22 every day and cried when my grandfather told me that Bobby was retiring to go and coach Wang rovers. Bobby Rose was of another era but if you think of a quicker, cleaner and more skilful Joel Selwood, that was Bobby Rose. I cannot compare him to Daics and Greening because they were virtuosos, but Bobby was the one you would follow into battle anyday.

As for the poster who said Players of the ilk of Thommo and McKenna spoke as if they were in awe of Johnnycake Greening, they were. He was simply that good. People from other clubs used to go to games just to see what he could do. You have to remember he started as a 17 year old but was immediately a STAR. He only played really the 4 full years and was effectively finished at 22, but if he had have had a 10 year career he would have won multiple brownlows and led his team to regular flags. He was a natural....freak!

 

[Quicky]

Did Carmen and McKenna ever play in the same forward line? That would have been a sight!

When you think about some of the administrative bungles that were happening at the time within the club, the tragic loss of Greening, the short fuse of Carmen it really illustrates just how unlucky and how god damn frustratingly self destructive we have been as a club over the journey.

 

[Robroy22]

Yep Sheps boy did play a year and a bit for us in the 80's, he wasn't the same prodigious talent as his dad but he did try to take hangers!
As for fabulous Phil, I saw him first in an interstate game when he kicked 10 on various all time great Victorian defenders (Doull and Southby) to name a couple, Phil just stood on their heads all night taking marks. People are right to say he had "no fuse" but he also had no peer at that time as well (1977). He was ahead of his time because he was a mobile tall marking forward that could run opponents off their legs, then take marks on the lead, then kick goals from anywhere and finish it all off by giving out a few backhanders as well! It's history now that he was suspended for clocking Micheal Tuck in the 77 Prelim or else Tommy Hafey would have got his premiership at the pies. He was never boring was fabulous Phil.

I think McKenna was gone to Carlton by the time Carman got to Collingwood, but Peter perfect was never the same again and retired soon after.

 

[rose jam]

I always struggle to know where to rate Bucks in discussions like this. Nobody can deny that he had sublime skills and a great footy brain but I will always see his captaincy as a bit of a down side. He certainly led by example but in the early years he seemed completely incapable of empathy with his charges. By the end of his career he seemed to have mostly overcome that issue but for me it will always be a bit of a cloud over his career and one can only wonder if perceptions of him will hold back success in his coaching career.

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Bucks had a 21st century attitude to footy before his time, and he started his career still kicking it with the party boy types still coming out the the 80's era.

I loved his attitude, total committment to winning, wtf is wrong with that!

Best Pies player ever. Daicos 2nd. Then a fair way back to the next.

 

[Pie_fan92]

I love the fact that Pendles has given the number 10 that touch of class. Til he came along 10 was always just a "so so guernsey" though Ian Cooper did do it proud in the 70's.

Yup and I expect that when Pendles retires there will be a big fuss over who we give our number 10 too, much like the whole Buckley-Maxwell thing a few years ago with the number 5.

 

[bodga22]

Born in 90 so never got to watch daicos, but i wish i could have being maco too and one of the greatest ever players

 

[Pie_fan92]

Born in 90 so never got to watch daicos, but i wish i could have being maco too and one of the greatest ever players

Met him once at a function when I was 6 (he was retired by then), I had no idea who he was (I figured he was an ex-pies player) but I remember hundreds of people were there to hear him talk. He was a top bloke, got a couple of photos with him and he even kicked the footy with us young pie fans. At the time I didn't think too much of it as I was still a kid, it was only once I got older that I realised that how big of a legend he truly was and is something I'll cherish forever.

 

[nahnah]

Well must say a good first effort! And welcome to BF!

76 posted this in one of our other threads and thought might be helpful for you or others when starting a thread:



I think in particular it is important to ensure a thread is named properly to draw posters in and set the topic for the thread.

Back to the thread are we comparing Pendlebury to other Collingwood greats only?

Or to all the greats of footy?

At Collingwood he has already achieved so much he could be anything in the fullness of time.

Thanks and cheers for the tips man, I meant where he ranked in Collingwoods history!

 

[The_Eagles]

Sorry for infiltrating your board, and the following nerdy analogy... But I see Buckley as the Agent Smith of Matrix fame, as played by Hugo Weaving - Clinical, Precise, Consistent, Damaging, Relentless and had no mercy. Pendlebury is the Neo, as played by Keanu Reeves - Young, Mercurial, Gifted and an otherworldly bender of time and space.
I have Buckley as the Magpies no.1 still. Daicos, a pure superfreak. Pendlebury has time to become 'The One'.

 

[blaze036]

Most impressive thing about scott pendlebury? Alex Davis.

 

[coldpieswarmbeer]

^haha - agreed.

 

[millsy29gopies]

Pendles has also been my favourite player since his debut. Because of his skill with the ball, at the end of their careers he will be rated ahead of Swan.
He'll certainly be up there with the greatest to play for this football club, as he is still only 24.