Event Sending condolences and love to all involved in the Bondi shootings!

[StCicatriz]

The carry on, means the terrorists have won.
We should have greaved , we should have collectively agreed that the perpetrators were evil and cowardly.

We should not have let it be an action that made a political impact. Anyone doing this is encouraging more of the same.

My heart goes out to the friends and family's of those lost.

100%

Got exactly what they wanted. Also should have been bipartisan support to tell the leader of another country to stay the **** out of it

 

[sammm]

It's always been coming, surprised it didn't happen earlier and hasn't come as a shock to be honest. When you have people marching for Palestine but barely a peep about what has been happening in Sudan, Syria, Yemen or Nigeria, as a Jew, you have to realise where this is headed. This isn't about whether the people protesting are right or wrong, when you see what the focus is/isn't, it's simply an indicator of what matters to people.
As a family we used to go to openly jewish events. We've avoided mass these gatherings for a while now, it's no longer safe to be there.

I go to jewish events, but i won't go into the CBD on a sunday.

 

[sammm]

100%

Got exactly what they wanted. Also should have been bipartisan support to tell the leader of another country to stay the **** out of it

how many other primeministers or presidents of countries get told what they can or cannot do. how to keep their citizens safe? who should be allowed to be prime minister? I would be less concerned if people denigraded italy's or germany's or greece, or new zealand politiions etc or thairland, , but its not that way

 

[FQFjt]

100%

Got exactly what they wanted. Also should have been bipartisan support to tell the leader of another country to stay the **** out of it

The carry on, means the terrorists have won.
We should have greaved , we should have collectively agreed that the perpetrators were evil and cowardly.

We should not have let it be an action that made a political impact. Anyone doing this is encouraging more of the same.

My heart goes out to the friends and family's of those lost.

Sorry but the only thing we know for sure about what the terrorists wanted is that they wanted a lot of dead people, and specifically dead Jews.

The line of argument that we should do nothing because "that is giving them what they wanted" or that "we should not let this make a political impact" is utterly spurious, and as a feel-good justification for not addressing the root causes, it is pernicious. If Australia's worst mass murder event in decades does not justify a thorough investigation into what took place and how it came about then what is politics even for?

 

[StCicatriz]

Sorry but the only thing we know for sure about what the terrorists wanted is that they wanted a lot of dead people, and specifically dead Jews.

The line of argument that we should do nothing because "that is giving them what they wanted" or that "we should not let this make a political impact" is utterly spurious, and as a feel-good justification for not addressing the root causes, it is pernicious. If Australia's worst mass murder event in decades does not justify a thorough investigation into what took place and how it came about then what is politics even for?

Its ISIS you dont think they want to destabilise western democracy?

How does any of that warrant the rhetoric we are getting that the current prime minister has blood on his hands?

 

[Ads734]

Its ISIS you dont think they want to destabilise western democracy?

How does any of that warrant the rhetoric we are getting that the current prime minister has blood on his hands?

Well considering reports have come out about the terrorists wanting to use ‘condemn Zionist’s’ the acceptance of the government to not push back against Imams in west Sydney calling to kill Jews.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce86l95gx5po.amp

Ultimately it’s easy to take on the koombaya, Vigil, let’s not blame people line when it’s not your community at risk.

Ultimately it doesn’t matter. In two months.
Footy will be back, NRL will be back.
99% of Australians will move on.
The government will promise more money for Jewish security.

Jews will walk with less certainty.
Jews will hide their identity and be a little bit more fearful.

Whether the government bans hate speech or not all that will happan is the anti semetism will go underground.

It’s unbelievable how even on social media the amount of conspiracies and jew hatred from the left and the right are written about Jews.

 

[True Believer]

Its ISIS you dont think they want to destabilise western democracy?

How does any of that warrant the rhetoric we are getting that the current prime minister has blood on his hands?

Who was prime minister when our nation allowed people to stand at the Opera House chanting "gas the Jews"?

The standards you walk past are the standards you accept.

Anyway this thread is not about you defending the indefensible from Airbus and his bunch of muppets, it is to show support following the worst terrorist event on Aussie soil.

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

16 white jewish people are murdered on a beach in australia and the country is up in arms, meanwhile we send TNT to israel to make the bombs (via the US) they drop on children's heads every day in palestine, on tents and old women, we supply the parts that keeps the F35s in the air, the parts that open the bomb bay to drop these bombs that kill 60 thousand palestinians (a conservative estimate), and our government is silent.

We are complicit.

Everyone muslim I know has loudly condemned the bondi terrorists lest they be assumed a secret jihadist, but half of the non muslim people I know (yes including jews) can't even condemn a genocide. 16 people vs 60 thousand dead. It's the absurd double standard.

These anti protest laws are orwellian, or should I say, trumpian. If anything it encourages the possibility of actual false flag terrorist events (not saying the bondi shooting was a false flag). In times of turmoil, if the government is dealing with large scale protests they can legally shut them down as long as there has been a terrorist attack within the last 3 months.

The fact that the Chabad group that organised the gathering is staunchly pro israel and pro genocide is not lost on me either. One of the Rabbis (at least one) went to israel and signed bombs that then got dropped on children in gaza. That man was not innocent. The child of course was and im sure many of the victims were, but if you sign a bomb destined to be used in genocide, you have forgone the sanctity of innocence.

Obviously the bondi attack was horrible, anyone involved should and will face justice, but the opposite is not true for the people commiting genocide and apartheid in israel that we facilitate as a nation. There is no justice for the palestinians, not in gaza, not in the west bank. So for a lot of people it is extremely frustrating to see our government and society suddenly mobilise following the death of 16 people after doing next to nothing for the past 800 days in the face of a genocide

Lastly, it's the subconscious code of what is acceptable to talk about and what is not. Even here. I talk about israel/the genocide all the time in my personal life, but here I don't really mention it, maybe because I think it will fall on deaf ears, or worse end some stupid back and forth with some zionist moron. But immediately after the bondi attacks it's all over this place. Would I be allowed to have a "condolences to the children in gaza" thread bouncing around on our main board?

 

[Ads734]

16 white jewish people are murdered on a beach in australia and the country is up in arms, meanwhile we send TNT to israel to make the bombs (via the US) they drop on children's heads every day in palestine, on tents and old women, we supply the parts that keeps the F35s in the air, the parts that open the bomb bay to drop these bombs that kill 60 thousand palestinians (a conservative estimate), and our government is silent.

We are complicit.

Everyone muslim I know has loudly condemned the bondi terrorists lest they be assumed a secret jihadist, but half of the non muslim people I know (yes including jews) can't even condemn a genocide. 16 people vs 60 thousand dead. It's the absurd double standard.

These anti protest laws are orwellian, or should I say, trumpian. If anything it encourages the possibility of actual false flag terrorist events (not saying the bondi shooting was a false flag). In times of turmoil, if the government is dealing with large scale protests they can legally shut them down as long as there has been a terrorist attack within the last 3 months.

The fact that the Chabad group that organised the gathering is staunchly pro israel and pro genocide is not lost on me either. One of the Rabbis (at least one) went to israel and signed bombs that then got dropped on children in gaza. That man was not innocent. The child of course was and im sure many of the victims were, but if you sign a bomb destined to be used in genocide, you have forgone the sanctity of innocence.

Obviously the bondi attack was horrible, anyone involved should and will face justice, but the opposite is not true for the people commiting genocide and apartheid in israel that we facilitate as a nation. There is no justice for the palestinians, not in gaza, not in the west bank. So for a lot of people it is extremely frustrating to see our government and society suddenly mobilise following the death of 16 people after doing next to nothing for the past 800 days in the face of a genocide

Lastly, it's the subconscious code of what is acceptable to talk about and what is not. Even here. I talk about israel/the genocide all the time in my personal life, but here I don't really mention it, maybe because I think it will fall on deaf ears, or worse end some stupid back and forth with some zionist moron. But immediately after the bondi attacks it's all over this place. Would I be allowed to have a "condolences to the children in gaza" thread bouncing around on our main board?

Obviously you are clueless about what a real genocide is.

Clearly you have no understanding of the conflict or radical Islam.

 

[Sully111]

16 white jewish people are murdered on a beach in australia and the country is up in arms, meanwhile we send TNT to israel to make the bombs (via the US) they drop on children's heads every day in palestine, on tents and old women, we supply the parts that keeps the F35s in the air, the parts that open the bomb bay to drop these bombs that kill 60 thousand palestinians (a conservative estimate), and our government is silent.

We are complicit.

Everyone muslim I know has loudly condemned the bondi terrorists lest they be assumed a secret jihadist, but half of the non muslim people I know (yes including jews) can't even condemn a genocide. 16 people vs 60 thousand dead. It's the absurd double standard.

These anti protest laws are orwellian, or should I say, trumpian. If anything it encourages the possibility of actual false flag terrorist events (not saying the bondi shooting was a false flag). In times of turmoil, if the government is dealing with large scale protests they can legally shut them down as long as there has been a terrorist attack within the last 3 months.

The fact that the Chabad group that organised the gathering is staunchly pro israel and pro genocide is not lost on me either. One of the Rabbis (at least one) went to israel and signed bombs that then got dropped on children in gaza. That man was not innocent. The child of course was and im sure many of the victims were, but if you sign a bomb destined to be used in genocide, you have forgone the sanctity of innocence.

Obviously the bondi attack was horrible, anyone involved should and will face justice, but the opposite is not true for the people commiting genocide and apartheid in israel that we facilitate as a nation. There is no justice for the palestinians, not in gaza, not in the west bank. So for a lot of people it is extremely frustrating to see our government and society suddenly mobilise following the death of 16 people after doing next to nothing for the past 800 days in the face of a genocide

Lastly, it's the subconscious code of what is acceptable to talk about and what is not. Even here. I talk about israel/the genocide all the time in my personal life, but here I don't really mention it, maybe because I think it will fall on deaf ears, or worse end some stupid back and forth with some zionist moron. But immediately after the bondi attacks it's all over this place. Would I be allowed to have a "condolences to the children in gaza" thread bouncing around on our main board?

And there it is

Regardless of what is going on anywhere in the world... regardless of what other governments are doing.... this is an attack on innocent Australians

This is a largely Australian forum, dedicated to an Australian sport. A terrorist attack happened against a group of people on our shores.

Regardless of what you or anyone else thinks of Israel, it's a shocking thing to happen.

Should Chinese Australians be vilified for the atrocities of the Chinese government?

Whatever is happening in the Middle East, all Australians should have a right to live in peace, without fear.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Sorry but the only thing we know for sure about what the terrorists wanted is that they wanted a lot of dead people, and specifically dead Jews.

The line of argument that we should do nothing because "that is giving them what they wanted" or that "we should not let this make a political impact" is utterly spurious, and as a feel-good justification for not addressing the root causes, it is pernicious. If Australia's worst mass murder event in decades does not justify a thorough investigation into what took place and how it came about then what is politics even for?

My personal opinion is that the gun owner probably didn't comply with NSW existing gun legislation.
Doesn't take a royal commission to determine that.
The prime minister resigning would achieve nothing.

The bigger the impact on our government , the more it will encourage others to follow suite.

 

[LH7]

16 white jewish people are murdered on a beach in australia and the country is up in arms, meanwhile we send TNT to israel to make the bombs (via the US) they drop on children's heads every day in palestine, on tents and old women, we supply the parts that keeps the F35s in the air, the parts that open the bomb bay to drop these bombs that kill 60 thousand palestinians (a conservative estimate), and our government is silent.

We are complicit.

Everyone muslim I know has loudly condemned the bondi terrorists lest they be assumed a secret jihadist, but half of the non muslim people I know (yes including jews) can't even condemn a genocide. 16 people vs 60 thousand dead. It's the absurd double standard.

These anti protest laws are orwellian, or should I say, trumpian. If anything it encourages the possibility of actual false flag terrorist events (not saying the bondi shooting was a false flag). In times of turmoil, if the government is dealing with large scale protests they can legally shut them down as long as there has been a terrorist attack within the last 3 months.

The fact that the Chabad group that organised the gathering is staunchly pro israel and pro genocide is not lost on me either. One of the Rabbis (at least one) went to israel and signed bombs that then got dropped on children in gaza. That man was not innocent. The child of course was and im sure many of the victims were, but if you sign a bomb destined to be used in genocide, you have forgone the sanctity of innocence.

Obviously the bondi attack was horrible, anyone involved should and will face justice, but the opposite is not true for the people commiting genocide and apartheid in israel that we facilitate as a nation. There is no justice for the palestinians, not in gaza, not in the west bank. So for a lot of people it is extremely frustrating to see our government and society suddenly mobilise following the death of 16 people after doing next to nothing for the past 800 days in the face of a genocide

Lastly, it's the subconscious code of what is acceptable to talk about and what is not. Even here. I talk about israel/the genocide all the time in my personal life, but here I don't really mention it, maybe because I think it will fall on deaf ears, or worse end some stupid back and forth with some zionist moron. But immediately after the bondi attacks it's all over this place. Would I be allowed to have a "condolences to the children in gaza" thread bouncing around on our main board?

Starting your post with 16 "white" jewish people tells us enough about you, no need to keep reading. The people who simply attended a Chanukah event in Bondi are no more or less deserving of being murdered because of the colour of their skin.

 

[Ads734]

Starting your post with 16 "white" jewish people tells us enough about you, no need to keep reading. The people who simply attended a Chanukah event in Bondi are no more or less deserving of being murdered because of the colour of their skin.

And also Jews are not exclusively white/or depending on the time through history or when it is convenient or not Jews either are grouped as white or are not, including one who was murdered who was French Jewish. Which is usually someone from French Moroccan ancestry.

Eg the Nazis and many Europeans did not view the Jews as white including fact the opposite. On the contrary. Today Jews are seen as white exclusively even though this just frankly false.

 

[Mibie]

Any chance this thread can **** off?

 

[MightySaint]

16 white jewish people are murdered on a beach in australia and the country is up in arms, meanwhile we send TNT to israel to make the bombs (via the US) they drop on children's heads every day in palestine, on tents and old women, we supply the parts that keeps the F35s in the air, the parts that open the bomb bay to drop these bombs that kill 60 thousand palestinians (a conservative estimate), and our government is silent.

We are complicit.

Everyone muslim I know has loudly condemned the bondi terrorists lest they be assumed a secret jihadist, but half of the non muslim people I know (yes including jews) can't even condemn a genocide. 16 people vs 60 thousand dead. It's the absurd double standard.

These anti protest laws are orwellian, or should I say, trumpian. If anything it encourages the possibility of actual false flag terrorist events (not saying the bondi shooting was a false flag). In times of turmoil, if the government is dealing with large scale protests they can legally shut them down as long as there has been a terrorist attack within the last 3 months.

The fact that the Chabad group that organised the gathering is staunchly pro israel and pro genocide is not lost on me either. One of the Rabbis (at least one) went to israel and signed bombs that then got dropped on children in gaza. That man was not innocent. The child of course was and im sure many of the victims were, but if you sign a bomb destined to be used in genocide, you have forgone the sanctity of innocence.

Obviously the bondi attack was horrible, anyone involved should and will face justice, but the opposite is not true for the people commiting genocide and apartheid in israel that we facilitate as a nation. There is no justice for the palestinians, not in gaza, not in the west bank. So for a lot of people it is extremely frustrating to see our government and society suddenly mobilise following the death of 16 people after doing next to nothing for the past 800 days in the face of a genocide

Lastly, it's the subconscious code of what is acceptable to talk about and what is not. Even here. I talk about israel/the genocide all the time in my personal life, but here I don't really mention it, maybe because I think it will fall on deaf ears, or worse end some stupid back and forth with some zionist moron. But immediately after the bondi attacks it's all over this place. Would I be allowed to have a "condolences to the children in gaza" thread bouncing around on our main board?

I'm a white jew. I don't think there's a genocide. Of the ~50 Jews that i know (some are white, some not), not one thinks there's a genocide. People may tell you one thing in public, but in private, amongst other jews, it's another matter. If we are being honest, 99.5% of Jews around the world think the genocide talk is from insane people that hate Jews of all colours. I'm not here to say whether that's right or wrong, just that this is what the community thinks. Make of that what you will I guess.

Oh, and people should be allowed to protest whatever they want.

 

[MightySaint]

Any chance this thread can **** off?

This is actually a solid point. As someone that has contributed to it, I'd say this should probably be moved to another board. The St Kda forum is not the place for it.

 

[thekizzler]

This is actually a solid point. As someone that has contributed to it, I'd say this should probably be moved to another board. The St Kda forum is not the place for it.

It didn't make a very good start as it was born out of virtue signalling too.

Shut it down mods.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Any chance this thread can **** off?

Yeah , it was suppose to be about sending condolences and its turned into a sh1t fight with people pushing their own ideas .

 

[StFly]

It didn't make a very good start as it was born out of virtue signalling too.

Shut it down mods.

Personally was waiting for a happy new year.

Anyone wishing to continue, please visit the SRP forum and be respectful. We've a wonderful wider forum around the bigness.