Should Frawley go???
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Should go, won't go.
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We should only kick him out if we find someone better to take his place, because why place the coach with someone with hardly any experience and then replace the new gye two years later.
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I get the feeling that the club understand that it is the players that are the problem moreso than the coach. Some players attitude sucks while many others are simply not good enough.
I would suggest the the problem players - players who have the ability but don't perform - will be shown the door at years end.
A criticism of the list is that it is stocked with too many recycled hacks and doesn't really have a lot of hope for the future. This smacks of a coach that is protecting his position rather than doing his job.
Also, our method of play borders on being a joke. We have enough tall talent to make most teams tremble but are to busy choking the ball in the backline and through the middle to really bring these tall players into play.
For the past 2 years we have been induced into an injury related spiral - and both years, Spud hasn't had the answers to bringing us out of this predicament. This year, it certainly has cost us chance of finals.
These last 3 points are the biggest indictment on Spud and is the reason I feel he should go.
I would suggest the the problem players - players who have the ability but don't perform - will be shown the door at years end.
A criticism of the list is that it is stocked with too many recycled hacks and doesn't really have a lot of hope for the future. This smacks of a coach that is protecting his position rather than doing his job.
Also, our method of play borders on being a joke. We have enough tall talent to make most teams tremble but are to busy choking the ball in the backline and through the middle to really bring these tall players into play.
For the past 2 years we have been induced into an injury related spiral - and both years, Spud hasn't had the answers to bringing us out of this predicament. This year, it certainly has cost us chance of finals.
These last 3 points are the biggest indictment on Spud and is the reason I feel he should go.
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He should go.
I cannot believe how decidedely second rate Frawley looks alongside "newer" coaches such as Dean Laidley and John Worsfold. Spud makes constant excuses, tells the team that we have to play above our best to win (v. Collingwood) and the team lacks any sort of discipline. For the all the promised changes when he was hired, the team rules, etc, this year Richmond's thinking has degenerated into siege mentality.
I like how Worsfold deals with every issue as a challenge, that he would back his players to beat. Play a final at the MCG- Eagles can do that, cover injuries- Gives an opportunity for somebody else. He genuinely believes these things when he says them. A bit of Laidley toughness wouldn't go astray either.
When Laidley says "it hurts" after a loss, you know that it does. When Spud says "yeah, nah, it hurts" it makes me want to puke.
I cannot believe how decidedely second rate Frawley looks alongside "newer" coaches such as Dean Laidley and John Worsfold. Spud makes constant excuses, tells the team that we have to play above our best to win (v. Collingwood) and the team lacks any sort of discipline. For the all the promised changes when he was hired, the team rules, etc, this year Richmond's thinking has degenerated into siege mentality.
I like how Worsfold deals with every issue as a challenge, that he would back his players to beat. Play a final at the MCG- Eagles can do that, cover injuries- Gives an opportunity for somebody else. He genuinely believes these things when he says them. A bit of Laidley toughness wouldn't go astray either.
When Laidley says "it hurts" after a loss, you know that it does. When Spud says "yeah, nah, it hurts" it makes me want to puke.
Spud should stay. For too long we've let the players off the hook for poor performances. For too long we've appointed a coach, put him in a 'performance-based' contract that pressures him into short-term solutions and quick fixes. Then when it blows up in our face, we show him the door, spin him around and push him out.
Let his contract run, clean out the list and then reassess next year. Even on a cynical level, it makes sense to keep Spud on — 8 current coaches come out of contract next season, significantly widening the market for a new coach if so desired. Spud stays IMO.
Let his contract run, clean out the list and then reassess next year. Even on a cynical level, it makes sense to keep Spud on — 8 current coaches come out of contract next season, significantly widening the market for a new coach if so desired. Spud stays IMO.
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I doubt we'd be able to reassess Spud realistically next year either. If we are to get rid of a lot of dead wood this year, means we will be struggling for depth, and hence, we will see the team down the bottom again. I guess we can only judge on the recruits we get next year and whether they're up to scratch.
I ain't got a clue if he's a good coach - i think most people don't have a clue - I suppose we will have to see when we get a decent crop of youngsters start to come through the tiger ranks. Hope it's soon.
Save Spud i reckon until we can realistically say, you are not getting enough out of the players you have. With this lot of players, nobody could i reckon.
I doubt we'd be able to reassess Spud realistically next year either. If we are to get rid of a lot of dead wood this year, means we will be struggling for depth, and hence, we will see the team down the bottom again. I guess we can only judge on the recruits we get next year and whether they're up to scratch.
I ain't got a clue if he's a good coach - i think most people don't have a clue - I suppose we will have to see when we get a decent crop of youngsters start to come through the tiger ranks. Hope it's soon.
Save Spud i reckon until we can realistically say, you are not getting enough out of the players you have. With this lot of players, nobody could i reckon.
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Patrick Smith on Frawley & Daniher....
Genius fleeting for coaches called to account
August 13, 2003
DANNY FRAWLEY used to be a genius. Well, 11 rounds ago he was.
He had his Tigers with six wins out of eight games and the most successful Victorian team in a competition dominated by the fancy pants north and west of the border.
Since then Frawley has apparently lost all ability, all knowledge, insight and good sense and should be sacked. He's a duffer.
These things happen to AFL coaches. Perfect one day, imbeciles the next.
It is true that Richmond have slumped to 12th place and won just a solitary game since Frawley was the sole defender of Victorian honour.
Indeed, this week's headlines have screamed that Frawley has won only 14 of his past 41 games. It has become the critical ratio that, we have been told, is sufficient for Frawley to be sacked or the players deported. But a win-loss ratio like that means it has to be one or the other.
Richmond have stood firmly behind their coach as they did when the media discovered the coach had lost the ability to walk on water.
For Frawley this is the second time this season that the Great Light of media scrutiny has sought him out.
Over at Melbourne, coach Neale Daniher must think he is running a school for journalists, for they surround him every other day and dutifully film and jot down everything he says.
Daniher has Melbourne – who finished sixth last year and played in two finals – in third last spot. He has won 18 of his past 43 games.
A board member, Bev O'Connor, was on radio last Friday saying that Melbourne lacked a spine. They also need tall key position players.
Last week, during his Wednesday tutorial, Daniher told the media that his men would come out fighting. That it was the only way to go. That he would never walk away from a battle. This was duly recorded in print and electronically. It was so absorbing you got a bit twitchy just listening to him.
Melbourne, of course, got flogged by Geelong, a side many people thought had dropped out of the competition due to lack of interest.
The Demons played an uninspired and listless game and the media said this was clear evidence Daniher could no longer get across his message.
Geelong are coached by someone called Mark Thompson. He has won 17 of his past 41 games. Apparently he is a very good coach because Frank Costa, the president, says he is.
It was reported last week that the Cats were in the market to draft or pick up key forwards. Names were named. So many, in fact, it appeared Geelong was after anybody and everybody taller than a fire hydrant.
Denis Pagan has won two premierships with the Kangaroos. Under his control they were said to be the best team of the 1990s. It was reckoned that here was a guy who could coach. This may have been a tad premature. Now at Carlton, he has won just 16 of 42 games.
Earlier this season Hawthorn coach Peter Schwab was so appalling that one media outlet suggested the club hire an interim coach until the Great Gabba Guru, Leigh Matthews, put down his sun screen and returned to Glenferrie Oval.
The GGG has since re-signed with the Brisbane Lions and Schwab took the Hawks to a mighty win over competition darling Sydney on Saturday. Schwab has won 20 of his past 41 games.
When it was thought necessary to sack Schwab, the Hawks were judged to be too slow, too slow moving the ball, guilty of kicking short and to the side, mentally and physically fragile. At the same time Richmond under Frawley were quick, good at clearances, and master of a direct game plan of kicking long to marking forwards.
Now, it is Richmond who are too slow moving the ball and Hawthorn who are thriving because they kick long and direct to tall forwards.
Oh, and they have many young men who are brave and extremely proficient at winning the hard ball. So Schwab can now coach and Frawley can't. All in the space of 11 weeks.
Finally, St Kilda are said to be the most exciting young team in the competition. They might not make the final eight this year but they most certainly will in 2004. They are tall, they are small, they are quick, they are big, they are fierce, they have youth mixed in with experience.
St Kilda coach Cornflakes Thomas has won 14 of his past 41 games.
Genius fleeting for coaches called to account
August 13, 2003
DANNY FRAWLEY used to be a genius. Well, 11 rounds ago he was.
He had his Tigers with six wins out of eight games and the most successful Victorian team in a competition dominated by the fancy pants north and west of the border.
Since then Frawley has apparently lost all ability, all knowledge, insight and good sense and should be sacked. He's a duffer.
These things happen to AFL coaches. Perfect one day, imbeciles the next.
It is true that Richmond have slumped to 12th place and won just a solitary game since Frawley was the sole defender of Victorian honour.
Indeed, this week's headlines have screamed that Frawley has won only 14 of his past 41 games. It has become the critical ratio that, we have been told, is sufficient for Frawley to be sacked or the players deported. But a win-loss ratio like that means it has to be one or the other.
Richmond have stood firmly behind their coach as they did when the media discovered the coach had lost the ability to walk on water.
For Frawley this is the second time this season that the Great Light of media scrutiny has sought him out.
Over at Melbourne, coach Neale Daniher must think he is running a school for journalists, for they surround him every other day and dutifully film and jot down everything he says.
Daniher has Melbourne – who finished sixth last year and played in two finals – in third last spot. He has won 18 of his past 43 games.
A board member, Bev O'Connor, was on radio last Friday saying that Melbourne lacked a spine. They also need tall key position players.
Last week, during his Wednesday tutorial, Daniher told the media that his men would come out fighting. That it was the only way to go. That he would never walk away from a battle. This was duly recorded in print and electronically. It was so absorbing you got a bit twitchy just listening to him.
Melbourne, of course, got flogged by Geelong, a side many people thought had dropped out of the competition due to lack of interest.
The Demons played an uninspired and listless game and the media said this was clear evidence Daniher could no longer get across his message.
Geelong are coached by someone called Mark Thompson. He has won 17 of his past 41 games. Apparently he is a very good coach because Frank Costa, the president, says he is.
It was reported last week that the Cats were in the market to draft or pick up key forwards. Names were named. So many, in fact, it appeared Geelong was after anybody and everybody taller than a fire hydrant.
Denis Pagan has won two premierships with the Kangaroos. Under his control they were said to be the best team of the 1990s. It was reckoned that here was a guy who could coach. This may have been a tad premature. Now at Carlton, he has won just 16 of 42 games.
Earlier this season Hawthorn coach Peter Schwab was so appalling that one media outlet suggested the club hire an interim coach until the Great Gabba Guru, Leigh Matthews, put down his sun screen and returned to Glenferrie Oval.
The GGG has since re-signed with the Brisbane Lions and Schwab took the Hawks to a mighty win over competition darling Sydney on Saturday. Schwab has won 20 of his past 41 games.
When it was thought necessary to sack Schwab, the Hawks were judged to be too slow, too slow moving the ball, guilty of kicking short and to the side, mentally and physically fragile. At the same time Richmond under Frawley were quick, good at clearances, and master of a direct game plan of kicking long to marking forwards.
Now, it is Richmond who are too slow moving the ball and Hawthorn who are thriving because they kick long and direct to tall forwards.
Oh, and they have many young men who are brave and extremely proficient at winning the hard ball. So Schwab can now coach and Frawley can't. All in the space of 11 weeks.
Finally, St Kilda are said to be the most exciting young team in the competition. They might not make the final eight this year but they most certainly will in 2004. They are tall, they are small, they are quick, they are big, they are fierce, they have youth mixed in with experience.
St Kilda coach Cornflakes Thomas has won 14 of his past 41 games.
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Frawley will be coaching next season ...... Simple
Coz the contract says so
Frawley will be coaching next season ...... Simple
Coz the contract says so
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Originally posted by TheFoxhat
Another Crap Thread
Frawley will be coaching next season ...... Simple
I think the question was 'should' not 'will' Spudley coach next season.
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