Opinion Should the team ask for a Priority Pick 2025 edition.

[RanaNaved]

random260 I know you're here, we need your campaigning skills to be put to good use. Start the campaign to get the AFL to give us assistance

 

[Obeanie1]

In 2018, Carlton got a special assistance package being able to pre-list 2 State League players (Suns got 3 in the same announcement).

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Maybe there is hope then.

AFL House.....the gift that keeps on giving.

Lol.

 

[Mr Q]

Under this system if we were signing a band 1 free agent we would be have to give up pick 1. When we could always just take any uncontracted player via the ND or PSD from last anyway.

Actually, under the system I proposed - you havve to give up your next natural pick - this year, to take a band 1 free agent, the Eagles would have to cough up our R2 pick - so a 20+ pick - plus additional points to cover the difference. No one can get a band 1 pick ahead of our first pick after all.

If we were taking a player out of one of the top teams, that might not be much. Take someone off Norf or Tiggers, then it will cost a lot in makeup points.

Works with the idea of equalisation - the top teams raiding the bottom teams pay up more.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

For me FA should have zero compo picks (bring the draft back to wear it should be).

Compo is salary cap to get spend on another FA.

But ... top 8 should be excluded from Restricted Free Agents. If they want a RFA, they can get them, but need to do it via Trade (ie pay a fair price for them).

The problem with free agency is the restrictions on list building that the draft creates. With an 18 team comp (soon to be 20), you're statistically only be able to add one 200 game player to your list per year via the draft. If these players are then getting raided with no compensation to the losing team for the years of development, some teams will never get off the bottom.

At least right now we get compensated for losing Oscar. If he left for free, we get weaker and the reigning premiers get stronger. That can't be allowed to become the norm.

 

[Obeanie1]

For me FA should have zero compo picks (bring the draft back to wear it should be).

Compo is salary cap to get spend on another FA.

But ... top 8 should be excluded from Restricted Free Agents. If they want a RFA, they can get them, but need to do it via Trade (ie pay a fair price for them).

No compo just means the top sides get stronger and the weak get weaker.

Tell us, which players have been attracted to North as free agents with North using all this spare cash to improve their list?

Players like Battle took less and left a struggling Saint Kilda to move to a contender.

 

[ghostbat12]

Perhaps there should be a draft for free agents.

 

[stallon]

I think that a better solution to not getting an outright priority pick is for us to be able to sign FA this offseason without diluting pick 2, 2 extra list spots and 2 extra cat B spots, ability to prelist our NGA talent. I think that would combine to solve the mature bodies issue that they wanted North to solve by trading late teens picks or whatever, without ruining the draft for other clubs. Maybe even allocate us an extra 500 DVI points or something that we can attach to a trade that isn't connected to a pick, a deal sweetener

I think it might be a bit late for the FA thing to matter, unless we only go for Starcevich.
Talks wouldve been well under way for a long time now and we've left it a bit late probably.

 

[oak79]

No compo just means the top sides get stronger and the weak get weaker.

Tell us, which players have been attracted to North as free agents with North using all this spare cash to improve their list?

Players like Battle took less and left a struggling Saint Kilda to move to a contender.

You missed the part where I said top sides should be excluded.

Clubs shouldn't be punished when someone leaves an opposition club - which is what compo does.

 

[Obeanie1]

You missed the part where I said top sides should be excluded.

Clubs shouldn't be punished when someone leaves an opposition club - which is what compo does.

Do clubs get punished when they add a free agent at no draft cost?

The AFLs view is its swings and roundabouts.

One year you are disadvantaged.

Then your clubs gains advantage in getting a player free of draft capital.

Where the AFL has failed is that some clubs naturally attract more quality free agents than they lose. And the AFL is allowing inequalities to grow under their poorly devised policies.

Simple fix. Put limits on clubs.

 

[Obeanie1]

Perhaps there should be a draft for free agents.

Then it's not free agency.

The AFLPA wants its members to move to their club of choice.

 

[TheNumber9]

Then it's not free agency.

The AFLPA wants its members to move to their club of choice.

It needs to move to a model where clubs can trade players/their contracts, even if only the top paid 20% of the list. If players want true free agency they should have to give up a little, in my opinion.

This would add a whole new dynamic and I think it would also bring an end to players signing 10 year deals.

 

[Obeanie1]

It needs to move to a model where clubs can trade players/their contracts, even if only the top paid 20% of the list. If players want true free agency they should have to give up a little, in my opinion.

This would add a whole new dynamic and I think it would also bring an end to players signing 10 year deals.

Will not happen unless the AFL pays them a hell of alot more.

Which the AFL won't do.

To what end? Some supporters are happy, more others not happy and a player and family forced to move somewhere they don't want to be.

There is simply no need to go down this route.

Players should be able to decide who employs them and where they live.

 

[txbyhull]

I think it might be a bit late for the FA thing to matter, unless we only go for Starcevich.
Talks wouldve been well under way for a long time now and we've left it a bit late probably.

Don’t have the clip but check out footy classified tonight, apparently eagles going for exactly what I said no FA dilution

 

[stallon]

Don’t have the clip but check out footy classified tonight, apparently eagles going for exactly what I said no FA dilution

Yep sounds like Starcevich could be our guy, I more was referring to other free agents we havent already been strongly linked to, to really flex our salary cap space.

 

[oak79]

Yep sounds like Starcevich could be our guy, I more was referring to other free agents we havent already been strongly linked to, to really flex our salary cap space.

More likely that we get a pick to trade for Stercevich, then it wouldn't factor into Oscar compo

 

[txbyhull]

More likely that we get a pick to trade for Stercevich, then it wouldn't factor into Oscar compo

The context of that convo is that eagles r asking for assistance to include being able to get FA without losing pick 2

 

[stallon]

More likely that we get a pick to trade for Stercevich, then it wouldn't factor into Oscar compo

Depends if the AFL want the optics of handing us a pick or not.

Wouldnt be surprised with how cowardly this administration is if they did the FA thing as its not technically a priority pick.

 

[oak79]

The context of that convo is that eagles r asking for assistance to include being able to get FA without losing pick 2

I get it - but giving us a pick that has to be traded gets around the optics of that request - media is already up in arms

Ie Hird. I actually liked him as a player - but as media expert - wow! he hate us so much and doesn't even hide his bias. Even preferred him coaching where he couldn't spout of as much bias rubbish

 

[DorothyG]

Ie Hird. I actually liked him as a player - but as media expert - wow! he hate us so much and doesn't even hide his bias. Even preferred him coaching where he couldn't spout of as much bias rubbish

Hird, gees. Just listened to the FC bit.

Wealthed on about being the wealthiest club and that we should just blow the soft cap with our wealth, and how wealthy we are.
Scoffs at the idea of PP because wealthy west coast.

Laughs at Rory and Adelaide's lack of wealth

 

[06Premiers]

More likely that we get a pick to trade for Stercevich, then it wouldn't factor into Oscar compo

So a pick gets made up out of thin air & ends up at Brisbane for Starcevich?

FA compensation with extra steps.

 

[Keys]

So a pick gets made up out of thin air & ends up at Brisbane for Starcevich?

FA compensation with extra steps.

I don’t think it’ll work that way

As the rules stand if Allen (to Brisbane) and Starcevich (to West Coast) both move as free agents then the Eagle’s Band 1 compensation would be diluted whilst Brisbane’s Band 2 or 3 compo would be wiped out

Sounds like West Coast are asking that the pick they get for Allen is retained if they bring a free agent in - this benefit is unlikely to be extended to Brisbane though so they’d get no compensation pick still.

It’s actually a pretty clever request because it’s a genuine benefit to us, but other clubs besides Brisbane aren’t impacted as we aren’t getting an extra pick as such.

But pillocks like Hird fail to understand this and just scream about priority picks and West Coast are a rich club

 

[squashface]

I don’t think it’ll work that way

As the rules stand if Allen (to Brisbane) and Starcevich (to West Coast) both move as free agents then the Eagle’s Band 1 compensation would be diluted whilst Brisbane’s Band 2 or 3 compo would be wiped out

Sounds like West Coast are asking that the pick they get for Allen is retained if they bring a free agent in - this benefit is unlikely to be extended to Brisbane though so they’d get no compensation pick still.

It’s actually a pretty clever request because it’s a genuine benefit to us, but other clubs besides Brisbane aren’t impacted as we aren’t getting an extra pick as such.

But pillocks like Hird fail to understand this and just scream about priority picks and West Coast are a rich club

A very well timed request too given the noise this year about compromised drafts. AFL will be hesitant to give out picks in an assistance package for this reason but the extra NGA picks and the compensation dilution removal are ways to assist us without disadvantaging other clubs and tbh should be used as a blueprint going forward for future assistance packages.

 

[Campaigner for good]

1) No FA Dilution
2) Two additional list spots

Those two points should be the minimum delivered from my perspective.

 

[BartBart]

Hird, gees. Just listened to the FC bit.

Wealthed on about being the wealthiest club and that we should just blow the soft cap with our wealth, and how wealthy we are.
Scoffs at the idea of PP because wealthy west coast.

Laughs at Rory and Adelaide's lack of wealth

Didn't Ess get assistance 6? years after their 2000 Premiership?

 

[Westend]

I don’t think it’ll work that way

As the rules stand if Allen (to Brisbane) and Starcevich (to West Coast) both move as free agents then the Eagle’s Band 1 compensation would be diluted whilst Brisbane’s Band 2 or 3 compo would be wiped out

Sounds like West Coast are asking that the pick they get for Allen is retained if they bring a free agent in - this benefit is unlikely to be extended to Brisbane though so they’d get no compensation pick still.

It’s actually a pretty clever request because it’s a genuine benefit to us, but other clubs besides Brisbane aren’t impacted as we aren’t getting an extra pick as such.

But pillocks like Hird fail to understand this and just scream about priority picks and West Coast are a rich club

Can't we just trade like a 2nd rounder or something for Starcevich keys ???

and doing that will not affect the Allen band 1 compensation ?