Opinion Sinclair or Lycett

[tesseract]

The only thing to be traded for from Essendon is their pick 20. I don't want Myers, Colyer, Jetta, Hooker, Howlett or whatever other WA player that plays for them. WC are already mediocre, and I have no desire to see more average/meh players brought in; that would ensure WC remain mediocre.

 

[tesseract]

You're kidding yourself , how many good big men around ready to play like him ???????? We must keep Sinclair ggrrrr

I've previously advocated to keep Sinclair, for at least 3 ruckman are needed on the list. However, WC need to offer something of value in a trade if they want a live 2nd round pick. Ruckmen are valuable, for the ready-made one's are scarce and are in demand. It has to be Sinclair, for Naitanui and Lycett should be off limits. In proposing to trade out Sinclair, WC could possibly select Darcy Cameron in the 4th round of the ND as a back-up.

WC don't necessarily need a "good" ruckman sitting in the WAFL waiting for an injury in order to get a game. WC merely need a passable fill-in as a back-up, for he's not going to get many games anyway, especially if WC revert to using a tall forward to pinch-hit in the ruck when injury strikes.

 

[Falco]

If I dont see Lycett in the 22 tomorrow afternoon I'm going to spit chips. He's in our 22 as soon as Coxy decides to start phasing himself out.

 

[Pottering]

Lycett has failed every time he's had a game at AFL level. He just doesn't look up to it. Sinclair might be older but he's just as inexperienced, but he shows a bit. Clearly though the match committee has its hopes pinned on Lycett. The problem we have is that when these guys play WAFL they're giants among boys physically, it gives false hope.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Lycett has failed every time he's had a game at AFL level. He just doesn't look up to it. Sinclair might be older but he's just as inexperienced, but he shows a bit. Clearly though the match committee has its hopes pinned on Lycett. The problem we have is that when these guys play WAFL they're giants among boys physically, it gives false hope.

That's simply not true. Lycett played six games to finish off 2013 and finished pretty strongly.

As for Sinclair, he's come in twice against poor sides and excelled because of his natural running game, where as Lycett is more of a burst player. For his age Sinclair is still exceptionally slight and his ball use is simply average particularly by foot.

It's a question of instant foil for our main ruckmen versus the long term prospect with more upside.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Lycett has failed every time he's had a game at AFL level. He just doesn't look up to it. Sinclair might be older but he's just as inexperienced, but he shows a bit. Clearly though the match committee has its hopes pinned on Lycett. The problem we have is that when these guys play WAFL they're giants among boys physically, it gives false hope.

When he's given a go as the second ruck he's shown quite a bit. Cox should just start coaching now. There is no more beneft of playing him for two reasons.
1. He's past it and it is time to play Lycett and Sinclair to see who we keep and who we offload.
2. We are getting beaten each week and need our coaches fully focussed on the job at hand. Cox can't be as an effective coach when he's playing on game day but also during the week in his preparation. I assume he will be signing as an assistant with us next year so he should be trying to get a head start, putting more emphasis into coaching and developing Naitanut, Lycett and Sinclair. This would be much more beneficial to them.

 

[Mighty Eagles]

Good to see Lycett get another run.

If he can get two games together I think we'll get some consistency with him

 

[Patron]

Good to see Lycett get another run.

If he can get two games together I think we'll get some consistency with him

He needs to take his chances though. He hasn't so far at afl level.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

He needs to take his chances though. He hasn't so far at afl level.

he needs to be given 3 games in a row then.

If he plays WAFL next week ShitsFvcked

 

[Patron]

he needs to be given 3 games in a row then.

If he plays WAFL next week ShitsFvcked

Im not sure if we will keep cox out for 3 games.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Im not sure if we will keep cox out for 3 games.

theres the problem.

Cox 2 and NicNat 1?

 

[Chris_6678]

Lycett and Nic Nat will offer more than what Cox and Lycett were offering last year.

 

[Lucky Luc]

I dont know if this has been mentioned , but why cant Paul Johnson of East Perth be rookie listed next year so if we can then trade out Sinclar.
We then have a great back up who most weeks can still play for East Perth then come in and play hes part if we get an injury with Nic nat or Lycett .
Is there a reason why he was dropped from Melbournes list? In My opioion hes very under rated as hes miles above wafl standards.

 

[Patron]

I dont know if this has been mentioned , but why cant Paul Johnson of East Perth be rookie listed next year so if we can then trade out Sinclar.
We then have a great back up who most weeks can still play for East Perth then come in and play hes part if we get an injury with Nic nat or Lycett .
Is there a reason why he was dropped from Melbournes list? In My opioion hes very under rated as hes miles above wafl standards.

he's pretty old, wouldn't be a back up for long.

 

[AndysAngels]

Anyone remember this? 3mins2 secs in, Lycett fends off WILL MINSON and takes 3 bounces down the wing. How many ruckman (let alone 21 year olds) EVER take 3 bounces? The guy has serious talent

 

[Falco]

Anyone remember this? 3mins2 secs in, Lycett fends off WILL MINSON and takes 3 bounces down the wing. How many ruckman (let alone 21 year olds) EVER take 3 bounces? The guy has serious talent

Yeah i remember that. If he can pull off a good performance this weekend with some moments like that then Cox and Simpson will be in a difficult position.

 

[Smotie]

Changed my opinion about lycett. He is going to be a great Ruckman and we need to keep him. Nn and him together could be even more damaging than cox and nn.

 

[Underdog]

I dont know if this has been mentioned , but why cant Paul Johnson of East Perth be rookie listed next year so if we can then trade out Sinclar.
We then have a great back up who most weeks can still play for East Perth then come in and play hes part if we get an injury with Nic nat or Lycett .
Is there a reason why he was dropped from Melbournes list? In My opioion hes very under rated as hes miles above wafl standards.

He might not want to be rookie listed.

I'd rather go a youngster instead. Get them within a system and putting on muscle and see how they go.

 

[Mighty Eagles]

I dont know if this has been mentioned , but why cant Paul Johnson of East Perth be rookie listed next year so if we can then trade out Sinclar.
We then have a great back up who most weeks can still play for East Perth then come in and play hes part if we get an injury with Nic nat or Lycett .
Is there a reason why he was dropped from Melbournes list? In My opioion hes very under rated as hes miles above wafl standards.

Johnno had the option of re-signing with Hawthorn in his last year that, but didn't want to as he wanted to return to WA. Howson offered him a job and he's quite happy just playing at WAFL without having to commit to the demands of the highest level

 

[SpaceClef]

Think we can safely say that Lycett is our best 2nd ruck option, however he shouldn't be used if both Cox and NN are playing.

Sinclair might be the more useful of the two in that situation as he's a more natural forward.

Question then is whether we'd ever need a Cox/NN/Sinclair situation, the answer to which is probably no, given that Gov has come in and impressed and Cox is on the way out.

I think then Sinclair should be traded if he's not happy staying on as backup.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Changed my opinion about lycett. He is going to be a great Rickman and we need to keep him. Nn and m together could be even more damaging than cox and nn.

 

[Smotie]

I know right. I was tired and typing on my phone.

 

[Tracker 101]

Think we can safely say that Lycett is our best 2nd ruck option, however he shouldn't be used if both Cox and NN are playing.

Sinclair might be the more useful of the two in that situation as he's a more natural forward.

Question then is whether we'd ever need a Cox/NN/Sinclair situation, the answer to which is probably no, given that Gov has come in and impressed and Cox is on the way out.

I think then Sinclair should be traded if he's not happy staying on as backup.

I think the problem is that the depth in our list is a little lop sided.
A load of quality talls and no smaller running players.
Also Cox has set some lofty standards over the years and will forever be judged by these.
Most teams would be happy to have the 2014 Cox leading their rucks as he still achieves better numbers than the lesser light rucks in the comp.
Cox should play if available this week.
Not sure why people should be worried about Lycett leaving as he knows he can have a long career at WC.
His advancement can be attributed to the guiding hand of Cox and the chance to learn with potentially the two best rucks who have graced a football field would be hard to knock back.
We would not even be discussing the dropping of Cox if our depth in this department wasn't the best in the AFL.

 

[MWPP]

I think the problem is that the depth in our list is a little lop sided.
A load of quality talls and no smaller running players.
Also Cox has set some lofty standards over the years and will forever be judged by these.
Most teams would be happy to have the 2014 Cox leading their rucks as he still achieves better numbers than the lesser light rucks in the comp.
Cox should play if available this week.
Not sure why people should be worried about Lycett leaving as he knows he can have a long career at WC.
His advancement can be attributed to the guiding hand of Cox and the chance to learn with potentially the two best rucks who have graced a football field would be hard to knock back.
We would not even be discussing the dropping of Cox if our depth in this department wasn't the best in the AFL.

Agree with the first part of your post
As for why people are worried about him leaving, it's because he has had limited opportunities, is out of contract at the end of the year, and is originally interstate. No surprise that we're concerned he might leave , especially since his background is from Port . If Cox retires at the end of this year Lycett *should* stay, but if he plays on, who knows.

 

[Eagle87]

Even if Cox goes, Lycett will be a career number 2 behind NN.

At Port he'd be a real shot to lead the ruck (yep, I'm aware of Lobbe) and he'd be surrounded by a better midfield.

Other teams could also offer him the chance to lead their ruck.


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