News Sinclair retired, Ramsay and Oxley delisted

[Apex36]

Well I TAKE IT you don't like insurance then
1 nominated f/ son
2 we have 3 to 4 spots .ones Tyler's
3 clubs always bid on our guys and we don't know who but hang on maybe the club might know more than you and me
39 points can help APEX
Rather have em than not
In case you know
JUST LIKE INSURANCE

It’s cute how you act like we’re the ones with no clue, even though it’s been pointed out to you multiple times that we can’t actually use pick 70, even for points.

 

[Bad Horse]

Now I know what it must feel like arguing with (former one nation) senator Roberts.

 

[Jasper84]

It cost a 2nd round pick, you can't sprinkle 100s and thousands on shit and call it fairy bread.

Sounds more like a fairy's loaf when you put it that way.

 

[DraftBalta]

It cost a 2nd round pick, you can't sprinkle 100s and thousands on shit and call it fairy bread.

The brown 100's and 1000's are delish

 

[Lord of the Pies]

So we should also delist Elliott, Scharenberg, Langdon, Fasolo, Varcoe and Wells?

That's the point, we can only carry so many on the list with durability issues.

 

[Crazy Tails]

Well I TAKE IT you don't like insurance then
1 nominated f/ son
2 we have 3 to 4 spots .ones Tyler's
3 clubs always bid on our guys and we don't know who but hang on maybe the club might know more than you and me
39 points can help APEX
Rather have em than not
In case you know
JUST LIKE INSURANCE

The problem is those 39 points (or the Insurance) attached to pick 70 are useless if we don't have enough lists spots to activate that pick (and the associated FS points).

If we only have four spare main lists spots pre draft then we will only be allocated picks 6, 38, 56 and 61. 70 disappears into the ether.

If we have 35 on the list and intend to run with a list of 40 + 4 then 70 can be used.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Thomas suspended 2 years 2015 & 2016.
Retained on rookie list for 2017 (promoted during season LTI or mid season upgrade).
Hence 3 years on rookie list.
Think he has to go up 2018.

He was on the senior list in 2015 when suspended . Then dropped and rerookied in 2016 and also rooki list in 2017.

Can remain on rookie list in 2018

 

[Buckley is my hero]

He was on the senior list in 2015 when suspended . Then dropped and rerookied in 2016 and also rooki list in 2017.

Can remain on rookie list in 2018

Should be a question then of should he remain on the rookie list next year? Personally I think he did enough when he broke into the team in the second half of the season, to deserve a promotion onto the senior list.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Should be a question then of should he remain on the rookie list next year? Personally I think he did enough when he broke into the team in the second half of the season, to deserve a promotion onto the senior list.

Definitely deserved it but it’s a list management issue.

 

[jackcass]

AFL.com article on the Sinclair, Ramsay and Oxley delistings says that club is yet to make a final call on Mayne.

I find it very hard to believe they could still delist him and have the TPP currency to pay him out the remainder of his deal all at once

Anomaly of FAs as I understand it is that we'd have to pay as per the remaining years of the contract so it won't be 1 lump sum, rather contracted amount in 2018, 19, & 20.

 

[jackcass]

Ramsay was always overrated, his shutdown work was ok and his rebound was poor.

Yeah, those 9 senior games leading into this year clearly showed his full potential.

 

[jackcass]

That's my criticism of it too.

The same applies to the 2 year extension for Crocker. It's unnecessary unless another club was sniffing around.

A one year extension would have been more prudent list management.


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We have nearly half the squad coming out of contract in 2018 so maybe the prudent list management decision was to offset some of these kids where the club sees a future beyond 2018. A couple of others only got the 1 year so they're clearly more speculative.

 

[jackcass]

Somebody is on the ball.
The website has been updated showing 36 players and Lynch as a rookie...
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/season/players/seniors

Strangely has Cox & Thomas on the senior list, no Murray yet.

 

[jackcass]

Hopefully some other club is silly enough to pinch Oxley in the rookie draft. Maybe the club is even secretly hoping it happens? In any case don’t think they’ll be crying in their beer if he gets nabbed and we get his contract off the books.

We'd still be paying any part of his contract above a basic rookie salary.

 

[jackcass]

Even if we rookie list Oxley wouldn't he be entitled to the minimum base salary of a senior listed player given he's contracted?

If he had of been delisted instead I assume we would have to pay him out his base salary plus an x amount of match payments so that's why we've taken this cheaper option (as well as freeing up a senior list spot).

He'll earn whatever his contract specifies whichever list he's on.

 

[jackcass]

I counted 8 as well. Murray the only trade in so 7 more to come.

If oxley goes on to the rookie and Cox the senior list, does that mean we have 4 ND picks and a further 2 in the rookie on top of Oxley?


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Remember without a Cat B rookie the list will drop from 45 to 44.

 

[legendstatus]

Keefe picked up by GWS (AFL online )


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[Timmy from Thomastown]

Strangely has Cox & Thomas on the senior list, no Murray yet.

Murray has to be on the senior list. Pretty sure traded in players can’t be put on the rookie list.

 

[jackcass]

Can we afford it?

We'd have to pay out three years of his contract in one hit.

The AFL did allow special dispensation in the case of Fevola (allowed Brisbane to blow their cap paying Fev out, and they had to correspondingly go under the next year) but not sure the AFL would allow it in the case of Mayne?

The 95-105% of TPP has been introduced now to allow for that type of thing.

 

[jackcass]

Murray has to be on the senior list. Pretty sure traded in players can’t be put on the rookie list.

Will be on the senior list, just not there yet.

 

[jackcass]

Thomas suspended 2 years 2015 & 2016.
Retained on rookie list for 2017 (promoted during season LTI or mid season upgrade).
Hence 3 years on rookie list.
Think he has to go up 2018.

Was delisted for 2015, added to the rookie list for 2016.

 

[DraftBalta]

These guys are better even if they do have Murray as a rookie

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/tp-collingwood-magpies?year=2018&sby=15

*Oldest to youngest

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Will be on the senior list, just not there yet.

Is on the senior list. Just not on website yet.

 

[loki04]

Is on the senior list. Just not on website yet.

It's what he meant.

 

[Mongo Ming]

We'd still be paying any part of his contract above a basic rookie salary.

I guess it frees up that extra rookie spot though. Oxley is too soft to make it even as a wingman IMO.