sorry crows

[irish]

well i admit i was wrong , critisized the selection of the roo as all australian much less captain, polling great in the brownlow well done mate hope you win

 

[Stiffy_18]

Only select few Port supporters could have thought he was not worthy of being named AA Captain but even now they would argue that he shouldn't have been

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

well i admit i was wrong , critisized the selection of the roo as all australian much less captain, polling great in the brownlow well done mate hope you win

Oh well good on ya for admitting you were wrong.
When do you think the rush of people from Port admitting they were wrong is going to come?
Now they will start jumping up and down that Cornes was robbed of the brownlow and should be appointed the AA captain effective immedietly.

 

[Mad Dog]

I must admit - I'll be keeping a keen eye out today for anyone wanting to discuss the merits of Roo v's The Gimp for AA Captain.

Onya Roo - a class act...hopefully your team mates can look and learn

 

[_espoir]

Only select few Port supporters could have thought he was not worthy of being named AA Captain but even now they would argue that he shouldn't have been

Oh well good on ya for admitting you were wrong.
When do you think the rush of people from Port admitting they were wrong is going to come?
Now they will start jumping up and down that Cornes was robbed of the brownlow and should be appointed the AA captain effective immedietly.

Geez and you lot talk about OUR chip on our shoulder!

Actually you'll find that some of "us port supporters" throught tredders was more robbed of a few votes (not the brownlow) just some votes rather than Chad. I'm happy with the top 3. Good on Judd, has been a star from the begining. Roo had a top year this year even though the side didnt. Good on him to poll the votes he got in a few of the losing games!

 

[MrMeaner]

No-one has doubted Ricciuto's ability to play. It is his ability to lead that has been questioned.

Captaincy is about more than being a gun player.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

Geez and you lot talk about OUR chip on our shoulder!

Actually you'll find that some of "us port supporters" throught tredders was more robbed of a few votes (not the brownlow) just some votes rather than Chad. I'm happy with the top 3. Good on Judd, has been a star from the begining. Roo had a top year this year even though the side didnt. Good on him to poll the votes he got in a few of the losing games!

Haha when I saw how well Roo polled I kept having flashbacks to the conversation with Porthos and Pred on the main board about the AA captaincy.
Yeah I didnt think Tredders was going to win as not many forwards do but I did think he was going to poll well.
I though ling was a smokey but he barely polled anything, until the round when Roo needed some votes aginst the Cats....bastard!

 

[_espoir]

Captaincy is about more than being a gun player.

I still believe in the 22 selected Roo has had more experience and is a "captain" of a side, rather than a vise. But i still think leadership, isnt as highly rated as Voss or Hird. IMO. But in the AA side Roo had to get it, only one selected that has the experience. So yeah he should have gotten it.

 

[Mad Dog]

Haha when I saw how well Roo polled I kept having flashbacks to the conversation with Porthos and Pred on the main board about the AA captaincy.
Yeah I didnt think Tredders was going to win as not many forwards do but I did think he was going to poll well.
I though ling was a smokey but he barely polled anything, until the round when Roo needed some votes aginst the Cats....bastard!

My mind went back to last Friday night when Choke-o let fly with something like....."naahh, we're not going to Melbourne for the Brownlow....I exshpect Tredrea will win it....which will be very dissappointing for everyone that's there not to have the winner present"....
Good to see the night still went ahead despite their absence

 

[Mad Dog]

I still believe in the 22 selected Roo has had more experience and is a "captain" of a side, rather than a vise. But i still think leadership, isnt as highly rated as Voss or Hird. IMO. But in the AA side Roo had to get it, only one selected that has the experience. So yeah he should have gotten it.

always the voice of reason from down that way espoir

 

[_espoir]

always the voice of reason from down that way espoir

sorry

I think some just forgot that the AA side is made up of 22 players. And within those 22 certain person had to be captain... I'm sure they were gonna give it to Scarlett or Hall or West.

 

[_espoir]

but with that...I'll shut up now

 

[noddy]

No-one has doubted Ricciuto's ability to play. It is his ability to lead that has been questioned.

Captaincy is about more than being a gun player.

Roo leads from the front not like some ponce who throws his arms in the air like he's Benito Mussolini after he kicks a goal.

Doesn't matter what we say to those few papsies that try to make light of Mark Ricciuto as a player/captain nothing will make them change their ways.

If it wasn't " his ability to lead" in question you guys would come up with an argument of how " he doesn't look like a captain" so we just have a smile & say to ourselves "nothings changed"

 

[MrMeaner]

Roo leads from the front not like some ponce who throws his arms in the air like he's Benito Mussolini after he kicks a goal.

Doesn't matter what we say to those few papsies that try to make light of Mark Ricciuto as a player/captain nothing will make them change their ways.

If it wasn't " his ability to lead" in question you guys would come up with an argument of how " he doesn't look like a captain" so we just have a smile & say to ourselves "nothings changed"

You're correct in saying that we will not agree on this. Our respecitve biases will get in the way of that.

My perception may also be clouded by my memory of a showdown in which, when the game was there to be won, Ricciuto gave away a number of stupid free kicks to us through his lack of discipline. This is not the act of a great captain.

For the same reasons, I have the same view of Wayne Campbell as a captain. Gun player but not the best person for the captaincy.

It would be like giving Hardwick the captaincy for us

 

[Mad Dog]

It would be like giving Hardwick the captaincy for us

I hope this isn't a comparison of ability

but judging by your baseless argument.......

 

[Tyson20]

You're correct in saying that we will not agree on this. Our respecitve biases will get in the way of that.

My perception may also be clouded by my memory of a showdown in which, when the game was there to be won, Ricciuto gave away a number of stupid free kicks to us through his lack of discipline. This is not the act of a great captain.

For the same reasons, I have the same view of Wayne Campbell as a captain. Gun player but not the best person for the captaincy.

It would be like giving Hardwick the captaincy for us

oh yeah i can see how its fair that you would judge someone on one performance, which, in the context of things, means sweet FA! dont worry about the other games where he has completely lead from the front or anything...

seriously

 

[sog35]

Aren't we developing quite the chip.

When you don't watch a team week in and week out you really only have the opportunity to stereotype players. That's what some do to Tredders, some to Roo. AA and Brownlows are insignificant awards on the pathway to club success. The captaincy is even less of an issue. Most supporters couldn't even tell you who last year's captain was. They'd have a fair stab but really aren't there bigger fish to fry?

And even so the Main Board is no place for reasonable discussion from anyone. Whenever anyone posts over there they appear to either be posturing or winding up the good folk.

 

[- PC -]

It would be like giving Hardwick the captaincy for us

You mean he isnt? Who is the Poor Power captain? Diego Wanganeen? Matthew ''I have the tradition'' Primus? Warren Treadwater?

Ive been out of this town too long( which is a god thing this week) and if I cared i guess I would know.

 

[MrMeaner]

I hope this isn't a comparison of ability

but judging by your baseless argument.......

Geeze, can't take a joke, can you guys? (The Harwick part, I mean)

 

[Stiffy_18]

Geez and you lot talk about OUR chip on our shoulder!

Actually you'll find that some of "us port supporters" throught tredders was more robbed of a few votes (not the brownlow) just some votes rather than Chad. I'm happy with the top 3. Good on Judd, has been a star from the begining. Roo had a top year this year even though the side didnt. Good on him to poll the votes he got in a few of the losing games!

Well I am sorry but I did say select few. I am not going going to stand back and let tossers like Porthos and Pred have a crack as Roo getting the AA captaincy instead of Warren saying that he hasn't had as good a year as Tredrea and hence he didn't deserve it. Even when the Brownlow was mentioned they said that was LAST year and this year Tredrea would poll better. Surprise sursprise Ricciuto had more votes this year than he did last year when he won it.

If thats the chip on the shoulder then so be it but wasn't it the Port people that cheered at the Port function last night when Roo didn't get any votes in one game and was ruled out from winning??????


BTW, I agree that Tredrea should have got a lot more votes but history will show that forwards don't win medals. When a player like Wayne Carey never won one in his prime what makes you think Tredrea will??????

 

[tribey]

When a player like Wayne Carey never won one in his prime what makes you think Tredrea will??????

But Carey was an arrogant pr1ck towards the umps and for that reason never endeared himself to them.

For instance, once at Waverley he gave away two or three 50m penalties in-a-row (he gave away a freekick close to goal) just so he could have his say. For the trek down the length of the ground he was just walking along arguing with the ump. They'd reach the fresh mark and just keep walking because Carey wouldn't shut up.

Tredders on the other hand always shows maximum respect for the umps and is considered by all and sundry to be a top bloke both on and off the field - a trait used against him in the copious CHF debates because he's not a mongrel like Carey, Brereton or Brown.

Having said all that, if Plugger and Dipper can win them anyone can.

 

[_espoir]

If thats the chip on the shoulder then so be it but wasn't it the Port people that cheered at the Port function last night when Roo didn't get any votes in one game and was ruled out from winning??????

It was a light hearted comment Stiffy... HINT THE face...


Its why i then stated my view on the things.

 

[nicho_magic]

roo and lappin had a better year than judd, its just that judd is more eye catching. for example, Roo got 36 possies one game and might have only got 1 vote, judd got 17 possies and got bog, and i know people will say its what you do with those possies but judds game definetely wasn't a bog

 

[Stiffy_18]

But Carey was an arrogant pr1ck towards the umps and for that reason never endeared himself to them.

For instance, once at Waverley he gave away two or three 50m penalties in-a-row (he gave away a freekick close to goal) just so he could have his say. For the trek down the length of the ground he was just walking along arguing with the ump. They'd reach the fresh mark and just keep walking because Carey wouldn't shut up.

Tredders on the other hand always shows maximum respect for the umps and is considered by all and sundry to be a top bloke both on and off the field - a trait used against him in the copious CHF debates because he's not a mongrel like Carey, Brereton or Brown.

Having said all that, if Plugger and Dipper can win them anyone can.

History will show that a forward has minimal chance of winning. Now I don't agree with it but thats how it pans out. When was the last time a forward won it???????

It will be a LONG LONG while before Tredders can get one. Carey back-chatting to the umpies has nothing to do with him not winning one. Its a myth dribbled out by media, players and officials. Whether or not a player mouths off on an umpire has a minimal effect. The medal is not given out for being a nice guy it being given out to the best player in the eyes of the umpires. In fact every superstar in their choosen sport is as arrogant as they come.

Tredrea doesn't need a Charlie to be recognised as a top player.

 

[Tyson20]

History will show that a forward has minimal chance of winning. Now I don't agree with it but thats how it pans out. When was the last time a forward won it???????

agree 100%

It will be a LONG LONG while before Tredders can get one. Carey back-chatting to the umpies has nothing to do with him not winning one. Its a myth dribbled out by media, players and officials. Whether or not a player mouths off on an umpire has a minimal effect. The medal is not given out for being a nice guy it being given out to the best player in the eyes of the umpires. In fact every superstar in their choosen sport is as arrogant as they come.

cant agree Stiff. Ive been around Umpires for a fair bit of time, and i can say that in my experiences (admittedly, with the AFL being a more professional competition, it may not apply as much), if a player mouths off at umpires his chances of receiving a 50/50 free let a lone best on ground votes, diminishes. its a best and fiarest award after all, so whats fair about continually chastisising (sp?) the umpires?? whilst many wont agree, why would an umpire give a player votes who continually gives him an earful??

players can be arrogant without having to resort to abuse of umpires (which i might point out is a reportable offence).

Tredrea doesn't need a Charlie to be recognised as a top player.

agree 100%