Spoon is now dangerously close

[Coin_Toss]

Really? I thought we were better.

Collingwood at full strength are a 6-8-10 goal better team then Carlton. Last night we weren't at full strength idiot.

 

[Murray]

Collingwood at full strength are a 6-8-10 goal better team then Carlton. Last night we weren't at full strength idiot.

Its funny how all the doom sayers totally miss that point.

We had 3 of our 4 rookie listed players playing and the 4th one would have been playing if he also wasn't injured.
That is how hard injuries have hit us.

It was Williamstown Seconds playing Carlton last night.

C'mon people FFS get real

 

[eddiesmith]

No it was worse than that Murray

The way Willy 2nds are playing, they would beat Carlton

1 more to go, Essendon is doing us a favour atm, lets hope they do it again next week

 

[Lensen]

I'm happy with a priority pick, I'm not happy with coming last.

 

[Murray]

No it was worse than that Murray

The way Willy 2nds are playing, they would beat Carlton

1 more to go, Essendon is doing us a favour atm, lets hope they do it again next week

At this point I would be happy to take 1, 2 and 19 in the draft - all on ballers

 

[eddiesmith]

At this point I would be happy to take 1, 2 and 19 in the draft - all on ballers

Now lets hope we can get Murph to enter the draft and ******** Brisbane over

I reckon we will use 19 on a Tall Defender

 

[FIGJAM]

I reckon we will use 19 on a Tall Defender

I hope so. No more Tex Walkers please!

I always see it like there are a few drafts in one. There's the top shelf mids/forwards who go first round, then there's the top shelf defenders and flankers which go second.

In the third round goes F&S, midfielders and talls with question marks, and good recycled options.

In the fourth round go the plodders, anorexics and dud recycleds.

In the fifth round goes the Maddee Lokans.

The sixth round is a Richmond only affair.

 

[sp-mac]

We are missing a dozen players. People are right when they say even if we finished bottom Carlton are alot worse off than us list wise and we would effectively pinching the picks out from under their nose.

 

[eddiesmith]

Here are 5 advantages of winning the spoon

1. Ruin Carltons future.
2. Hopefully screw the Brions
3. Get the best uncontracted player available
4. Force clubs to deal with us come trade time
5. Get the 2 best youngsters in the comp

Bring on the spoon

 

[Nardz]

Let's not fool ourselves. Carlton and Hawthorn ain't stupid enough to sacrifice having 2 of the first 5 picks. Neither team will win another game for the rest of the season.

 

[steviewonder36]

keep telling yourself that. But the fact that our best players week in, week out are the youngsters and the future of our club, Waite, Fisher, Simpson, Bentick and co appear to me to be a helluva lot better the young talent you have, I would say we are closer to becoming a power onfield again then you are.

Bucks, Burns, Clement, Presti, Wakelin, Rocca .... all your best players and all soon gone. Fevola, Waite and Fisher are all better then Tarrant who doesn't want to be playing football and this is reflected by the dubious activites he is involved with off field .... Didak is nothing more then a Stephen Milne ... and Fraser is a pencil thin, injury prone player who during the rare times he does play, can't keep his feet, or compete with bigger bodies. Well I guess you can look forward to the hugely talented Cammy Cloke to return and that hard-as-nails winger, Lonie to come back.

Don't thrown stones whilst living in a glass Lexus Centre.

Great another youngster posting on the Big Footy Kids board, good to see your fishing in the Collingwood folder.

P.s Did Daddy tell you to write the last line?

 

[Ripper]

MM will love a spoon on his CV.

 

[FIGJAM]

MM will love a spoon on his CV.

$10 says we win a final before your mob!

 

[Lockyer24]

keep telling yourself that. But the fact that our best players week in, week out are the youngsters and the future of our club, Waite, Fisher, Simpson, Bentick and co appear to me to be a helluva lot better the young talent you have, I would say we are closer to becoming a power onfield again then you are.

Bucks, Burns, Clement, Presti, Wakelin, Rocca .... all your best players and all soon gone. Fevola, Waite and Fisher are all better then Tarrant who doesn't want to be playing football and this is reflected by the dubious activites he is involved with off field .... Didak is nothing more then a Stephen Milne ... and Fraser is a pencil thin, injury prone player who during the rare times he does play, can't keep his feet, or compete with bigger bodies. Well I guess you can look forward to the hugely talented Cammy Cloke to return and that hard-as-nails winger, Lonie to come back.

Don't thrown stones whilst living in a glass Lexus Centre.

Haha end it.

Waite = talented player, shoddy kick. Will never be a player to carry a side. Yes he will be dangerous and have good games where he can chip in as a third tall but he will never be the cream in a good side. Will NEVER be an All Australian.
Fisher = Seen it all before, good athlete, teases with the odd good game here and there, will never be a gun. Next...
Simpson = will be handy foot soldier to compliment your cream, if you ever find it.
Bentick = Jim Plunkett re-incarnated. See you in VFL in 2 years pal.

Fevola, Waite and Fisher (LOL) are welcome to come see Tazza's All Australian guernsey any-time they like, maybe ask him how he led his team to a Grand Final.

Fraser and Didak are only starting to come into their own but they have undeniable talent as matchwinners and have any player at your club in the 20-22 year age bracket covered well and truly...not to mention plenty of finals experience aswell.

We both need an injection of young talent theres no doubt about that but lets not get over-excited by a win in a nothing game at the end of the season with half our side out.

 

[Lajon]

Haha end it.

Waite = talented player, shoddy kick. Will never be a player to carry a side. Yes he will be dangerous and have good games where he can chip in as a third tall but he will never be the cream in a good side. Will NEVER be an All Australian.
Fisher = Seen it all before, good athlete, teases with the odd good game here and there, will never be a gun. Next...
Simpson = will be handy foot soldier to compliment your cream, if you ever find it.
Bentick = Jim Plunkett re-incarnated. See you in VFL in 2 years pal.

Fevola, Waite and Fisher (LOL) are welcome to come see Tazza's All Australian guernsey any-time they like, maybe ask him how he led his team to a Grand Final.

Fraser and Didak are only starting to come into their own but they have undeniable talent as matchwinners and have any player at your club in the 20-22 year age bracket covered well and truly...not to mention plenty of finals experience aswell.

We both need an injection of young talent theres no doubt about that but lets not get over-excited by a win in a nothing game at the end of the season with half our side out.

noones getting excited over 1 win.

Fact is, your injuries aren't as bad as you make out. Yes, you've got several, but in terms of premiership quality, the players missing are laughable.

Would rather Waite over Fevola anyday of the week, and would clearly rather Fevola over Tarrant. Easily has the potential to be AA, and will be our #1 forward if he isn't already. Fisher will soon be on par with Tarrant, and are both the same type of player. Leading forwards who are never going to spearhed an attack in a premiership side. And Tarrant could learn a lot from Fisher when it comes to leading and maybe realise that leading to 50 metres out on the boundry line isn't the smartest thing especially when you can't kick for goal. At least Fisher appears remotely interested in the game of football as well.

And you say Bentick is a Plunkett? Bentick hits teamates with his disposal by foot and hand. Bentick has pace for his size. Bentick has footy smarts. Plunkett had none of those things.

Fraser is starting to come into his own you say? What the hell is he starting to come into? He releasing his own label of crutches or plaster? Seems all that frail young body does is sit there injured in the grandstands. And Didak ... well go on all you like about him (god knows you pies supporters will and do), but he's nothing more than a white leon davis, a couple games of 2-3 goals where he snaps over the shoulder, plus 20 touches every now and then doesn't disprove this, but you guys talk it up. Would rather a 25-30 touch a week player any day (cough Stevens cough). But you guys talk that down as well. Stevens is crap, Didak is a game breaker etc etc...ok we believe you

It's ok though. It seems you lot are happy with fooling yourselves into believing that all will be ok come round 1 next year and when these injured "stars" are injected back into the lineup, another crack at the flag will be on the horizon.

The difference is, we know our list is poor. We know it's going to take some massive rebuilding. But we already have the core of talented youngsters which is the starting block to a successfull team. Take the geriatrics (Buckley, Burns, Clement, Wakelin, Presti, even Rocca, Woewodin, Caracella are all nearly 30) out of your side in the next 1-2 years and we'll see how the Pies travel.

 

[MAL FUNCTION]

ain't read the past few pages - but !
...in all honesty and unbiasedly as possibly, i reckon i can mention :

i'm not sure what the hell went on this year ....and it's been soooo f'ing frustrating, sure !
but what ever happened this year, i'd still rather our team as it is, than Carlton's and many others ...co's we still know we have the potentual .
with or without 1st priority pick !
how many times has priority #1 turned out to be a flop !

i guess Carlton And their fans will find out next year how the #1 priority pick goes

Carlton ! and their fans ....don't delude yourselves ! ...you know you really are a sh*t team ! ....no really ,you are !

 

[Nardz]

noones getting excited over 1 win.

Fact is, your injuries aren't as bad as you make out. Yes, you've got several, but in terms of premiership quality, the players missing are laughable.

Would rather Waite over Fevola anyday of the week, and would clearly rather Fevola over Tarrant. Easily has the potential to be AA, and will be our #1 forward if he isn't already. Fisher will soon be on par with Tarrant, and are both the same type of player. Leading forwards who are never going to spearhed an attack in a premiership side. And Tarrant could learn a lot from Fisher when it comes to leading and maybe realise that leading to 50 metres out on the boundry line isn't the smartest thing especially when you can't kick for goal. At least Fisher appears remotely interested in the game of football as well.

And you say Bentick is a Plunkett? Bentick hits teamates with his disposal by foot and hand. Bentick has pace for his size. Bentick has footy smarts. Plunkett had none of those things.

Fraser is starting to come into his own you say? What the hell is he starting to come into? He releasing his own label of crutches or plaster? Seems all that frail young body does is sit there injured in the grandstands. And Didak ... well go on all you like about him (god knows you pies supporters will and do), but he's nothing more than a white leon davis, a couple games of 2-3 goals where he snaps over the shoulder, plus 20 touches every now and then doesn't disprove this, but you guys talk it up. Would rather a 25-30 touch a week player any day (cough Stevens cough). But you guys talk that down as well. Stevens is crap, Didak is a game breaker etc etc...ok we believe you

It's ok though. It seems you lot are happy with fooling yourselves into believing that all will be ok come round 1 next year and when these injured "stars" are injected back into the lineup, another crack at the flag will be on the horizon.

The difference is, we know our list is poor. We know it's going to take some massive rebuilding. But we already have the core of talented youngsters which is the starting block to a successfull team. Take the geriatrics (Buckley, Burns, Clement, Wakelin, Presti, even Rocca, Woewodin, Caracella are all nearly 30) out of your side in the next 1-2 years and we'll see how the Pies travel.

Fraser has played over 100 games. He's hardly as injury prone as you say. Had a problem with a hamstring last year, and had a knee injury infected this season. Nothing ongoing once he fully recovers over the preseason.

You are grossly overrating brad fisher. He was comprehensivly beaten by a 3rd gamer in Obrien, how you can say he's anywhere near par with tarrant is laughable. Tarrant has had by far his worst season, and has couragiously played the majority of it with a knee injury. We will see tarrant back at his best next season

Didak's 2-3 goal games are his average. His good games are his 5-6 goal games. He is a player that you would love to have. Talented, great disposal, smart with the ball, he will be a star for years to come.

I'd hate to tell you but your young "stars" ain't exactly that great. Collingwood has a collection of youth on par with carltons, to say the least.

And as for your ridiculous opener, that our injuries aren't as bad as we make out, well you obviously havent done your research. Yes they may not be premiership players, but there's some experienced players with finals experience that have missed large bulk of the season.

Put Rocca, Fraser, Didak, Tarrant, Johnson, Caracella (premiership player btw), and Shaw into the side on saturday nite, and the game simply would have been a foregone conclusion. that's 7 players that would be walk up starts in our side, almost half the team.

Then you've got Rusling, Cloke, Richards, Cole, Walker, Rowe, Lonie, who would be our backups in case of emergency, and they are also out.

Alot of the players you saw on saturday nite were our 3rd or even 4th choice players.
Our injury list consists of 15 players. That doesnt leave our list with many healthy players. I think you'll find that you won't see an injury list that severe for quite a while.

 

[Murray]

I hope so. No more Tex Walkers please!

I always see it like there are a few drafts in one. There's the top shelf mids/forwards who go first round, then there's the top shelf defenders and flankers which go second.

In the third round goes F&S, midfielders and talls with question marks, and good recycled options.

In the fourth round go the plodders, anorexics and dud recycleds.

In the fifth round goes the Maddee Lokans.

The sixth round is a Richmond only affair.

True - and I think that is how most clubs look at it

 

[pieman1]

noones getting excited over 1 win.

Fact is, your injuries aren't as bad as you make out. Yes, you've got several, but in terms of premiership quality, the players missing are laughable.

Would rather Waite over Fevola anyday of the week, and would clearly rather Fevola over Tarrant. Easily has the potential to be AA, and will be our #1 forward if he isn't already. Fisher will soon be on par with Tarrant, and are both the same type of player. Leading forwards who are never going to spearhed an attack in a premiership side. And Tarrant could learn a lot from Fisher when it comes to leading and maybe realise that leading to 50 metres out on the boundry line isn't the smartest thing especially when you can't kick for goal. At least Fisher appears remotely interested in the game of football as well.

And you say Bentick is a Plunkett? Bentick hits teamates with his disposal by foot and hand. Bentick has pace for his size. Bentick has footy smarts. Plunkett had none of those things.

Fraser is starting to come into his own you say? What the hell is he starting to come into? He releasing his own label of crutches or plaster? Seems all that frail young body does is sit there injured in the grandstands. And Didak ... well go on all you like about him (god knows you pies supporters will and do), but he's nothing more than a white leon davis, a couple games of 2-3 goals where he snaps over the shoulder, plus 20 touches every now and then doesn't disprove this, but you guys talk it up. Would rather a 25-30 touch a week player any day (cough Stevens cough). But you guys talk that down as well. Stevens is crap, Didak is a game breaker etc etc...ok we believe you

It's ok though. It seems you lot are happy with fooling yourselves into believing that all will be ok come round 1 next year and when these injured "stars" are injected back into the lineup, another crack at the flag will be on the horizon.

The difference is, we know our list is poor. We know it's going to take some massive rebuilding. But we already have the core of talented youngsters which is the starting block to a successfull team. Take the geriatrics (Buckley, Burns, Clement, Wakelin, Presti, even Rocca, Woewodin, Caracella are all nearly 30) out of your side in the next 1-2 years and we'll see how the Pies travel.

The fact is our injuries have crippled the team, and they haven't been to our nuff nuff's, every week 4 out of our best 5 have been missing. This 'phenomenon' has been outlined in both the Sun and the Age and yet you still can't see it, facts don't lie champ. You have the worst list in the comp, Adam Bentick??? 16 clubs didn't draft him including Carlton. We can all see why Blues supporters are so bitter and twisted and there is no doubt with your type of deluded thinking the Blues will be in the spoon position for at least three more years, untill then keep smoking that crack pipe.

 

[grayza]

i'll be cheering Carlton on extra hard this week against Essendon, would be nice to see them get up

as it appears pretty likely now, if we get the extra pick, would we use it to lure a "big name" to the club, or invest in youth?

 

[mojo31]

The fact is our injuries have crippled the team, and they haven't been to our nuff nuff's, every week 4 out of our best 5 have been missing. This 'phenomenon' has been outlined in both the Sun and the Age and yet you still can't see it, facts don't lie champ. You have the worst list in the comp, Adam Bentick??? 16 clubs didn't draft him including Carlton. We can all see why Blues supporters are so bitter and twisted and there is no doubt with your type of deluded thinking the Blues will be in the spoon position for at least three more years, untill then keep smoking that crack pipe.

I dont think there is a lot of difference between the 2 lists to be honest. Collingwood with everyone available would be slightly better but not by to much. That has to be balanced against the Pies older list.
Carlton will lose French (29), Kouta (32), Camporeale (29) and Lappin (29) over the next few years. The rest of the list is a fair bit younger.
Most of the improvement over the last few weeks has come from the younger players.
Collingwood on the other hand have Buckley (33), Caracella (28), Clement (soon 29), Licuria (27), Presti (27), Woewodin (29), Wakelin (29), Rocca (28), Morrison (27) . They all will need to be replaced over the next 3 to 5 years. Most of them would still be in your best 10 players.

 

[Kooley]

, Adam Bentick??? 16 clubs didn't draft him including Carlton. .

we picked him up as a rookie and he collects 34 possessions. Wasn't that the same draft you took that Dud Billy from Tasmania with your number 1 pick.

 

[grayza]

Bentick is a flash in the pan

would be very surprised if he plays more than 100 league games

 

[Kooley]

Bentick is a flash in the pan

would be very surprised if he plays more than 100 league games

Bentick>Leonard

 

[understudy]

just take your ********ing medicine you ********ing soft *****

will have you feeling a hell of a lot better in a couple of years times